Eureka .. I have it. Giza Truly solved this time ?

[Don Barone]

Hi all ...

More beautiful and wonderful than I could have hoped ...

Giza solved I think ...

www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?6,473017

Check under Gizian Geometry

Cheers
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Looks beautiful to me. If it's all coincidences, the universe entire must work coincidental and coefficient.

Stop making Anthony's life miserable ;D, he is just like the rest of us and sees things the way he is, not as they are.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte (One now for The Sphinx as well)

Two beautiful things to ponder ...

The first: I found the answer in this painting:



The Second: The Sphinx is indeed the start of the whole Giza complex. From it you go one unit toward the NW and then two units toward the SW and this defines the north south distance of square root 5 and I am betting (have to check the math) but it is going to be ... 100 times the distance and size of The King's Chamber. For if we have sq rt of 5 for our north south distance then 1 unit must be 1000 Royal Cubits and 2 must be 2000 royal Cubits.

It is marvellous to behold and so we go from a room 10 Royal Cubits by 20 Royal Cubits (The King's Chamber) to The Sphinx defining an area 1000 Royal Cubits by 2000 Royal Cubits. I get goose bumps just thinking about how I was right all along.

Merry Christmas and to whomever or whatever allowed me to find this ... THANK YOU !!!

Praise Ra !

In Love and A Light
... and riding on the crest of The Tsunami
Don Barone

[Don Barone]

Hi all ...

It would seem that the correct point of origin of the entire Giza complex is the center of The Sphinx Temple and the distances are 2046.59 and 4093.18 cubits



Cheers
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Hey Don,

Though from another angle, for me the Sphinx is the start of the Giza complex. I should have added yesterday that when it comes to geometry and number, things are what they are.

Hang on tight riding the tsunami

XOXOXO

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

admin said:

Hi all ...

It would seem that the correct point of origin of the entire Giza complex is the center of The Sphinx Temple and the distances are 2046.59 and 4093.18 cubits



Cheers
Don Barone

Hi again, I see you beat me by 2 minutes. Lines up great with the centers of P1 and 3, and base of P2, I wish I could be in your head to look/see with you

I love these areal views, the white-line arrow by the Sphinx points almost directly at a large tree and the shops near by. Nothing but the tip of the GP can be seen now from the shops because the ugliest, dark gray cement wall you can imagin blocks this once wonderful view of the Sphinx like in a valley below, up to the right the Pyramids, and everything in between.

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Don.

Looks good to me. ;D

I had a quick look at the measurements and they correspond to the workings I had in mind.

I know you have put years into this search, so I hope you have a great Christmas and a very productive New Year.

Blessings - Paul.

[Don Barone]

Hi Paul yes we had a very good Christmas but my mind really never left Giza.

Here are a few latest things for you and Charlotte [ ] to ponder.

Firstly my diagrams are missing the exact center of the pyramids and I think I know why. As I posted over at Ma'at, I have been wrong as well as all those before me because we have missed the obvious. The pyramids, impressive though they are are really not the most important things at Giza ... THE BURIALS ARE !!!! So therefore it is toward the sarcophagus' and the burial chambers we must look for our base points and on doing this a few interesting things are revealed. Firstly the math fits almost to perfection and that alone is mind boggling. Very much like the fact that N-S is equal exactly to sq rt of 2 x's 1000 cubits.

I have begun to do the math to check the validity of my theory and it is looking extremely good.

But before going into all of that let's take a look at this image and reflect upon the many mathematical wonders at Giza. Also take note of how I think the Phi point at Pyramid 2 may be able to be found using the simplest of techniques namely just drawing lines. I have asked Wayne Taylor to check this diagram with his AutoCad program and we shall see ...



Cheers and now wishing everyone a happy and of course an enlightened New Year !

Don Barone

[PMacG]

Hi Don.

Indeed I had a feeling that your mind would be working on this over Christmas.

For me it was the centre of the smallest pyramid that gave the key to the design of the cubic hexagons. Also the relationship of 4/5th for me seemed paramount as it gives a relationship between 5/8 Phi, this being through the 4th and 5th divisions of the Earth's circumference. We can of course use Imperial to Metric as they are also based on a 5th and a 4th division (but as I pointed out Metric has a slight error in a 4th division). So the GPs seem to be based on the division of the Earth's Sphere, but also fit the values of Time/Precession.

As you point out, there seems to be a series of cubic hexagons that radiate out from the centre of the small pyramid, and the first hexagon is to be found in the measure from the SP's centre to the bottom corner of the GP. You should find that this length of radius fits into the placement of the GPs in various ways to include the Valley Temple and Sphinx.

As I have also said before, I don't feel that this is my field, and therefore anything I wish to say is only said to try and assist you in your work. So I will be only too pleased if what I have to say doesn't turn out to be a hinderance instead of a help.

I wish you all the best in your quest.

Kindest regards and all the best for 08 - Paul.

[Don Barone]

Hi Paul ...

As always the simplest hint given inadvertently breeds new avenues of research. You mention radiate and I can already see the Golden Spiral spiraling out from the center of Giza encompassing possibly all of Egypt and who knows maybe the entire globe and Ra knows maybe even the universe !

But anyway here is a new image to look at. It jumped out at me while I was checking the measurements. Giza would appear to be a perfect Phi Hexagon producing an amazing and ever continuing series of mathematical discoveries. But now I must go and superimpose the golden spiral onto the diagram of mine showing The Giza Plateau Circle. I think we may be surprised by what it shows ...

Oh here is the newest image.



Cheers
Don Barone

[Don Barone]

Hi all ...

Always nice when it comes together like this ...

Amazing even to me sometimes ...



But you know I knew somehow within me that it would. I have been able to see it vaguely for sometime now but even this match-up amazed me again.



Pretty amazing if you ask me.



Cheers
Don Barone

[PMacG]

Hi Don.

Your image of 4mk9 corresponds with what I had. I had also defined a much larger one based on the centre of the GP, but not to complicate matters I'll go no further with that now.

If you also go for the circle based on centre of small pyramid (SP) to the bottom corner of the great pyramid (GP) you should find that most of the centres and corners of Pyramids define the divisions of cubic hexagon in a 6th division of the circle, but they point toward a 12th division within that circle, plus more.

One can join-up centres, corners, and in the case of the GP it works as on an 8th division. I think the line from the centre of the GP through the middle of the MP and to the top left corner of the SP is what you called the Chase Line - this meets the lines of the rectangle that defines the hexagon within the circle.

The line from the centre of the GP to the bottom corner of the SP defines a 6th, as does also, from the centre of GP to the top left corner of the MP define a 6th, and lastly a line from the centre of the SP to the centre of the MP also points to a 6th division. I felt this many lines pointing toward 6th divisions, plus other positions of importance must be beyond a fluke.

I hope this might help, as you know if you don't say anything then nothing is achieved, and at least one tried even if its a load of rubbish.

Kindest Regards - Paul.

[ariston]

Dear Don,

That is pure poetry on the eyes, all multiples of 1414 as well, which as you know, as far as I am concerned is the basis from whence 666.666 iis derived.

1414.2135/3=471.4*1.4142135=666.66666

Therefore your square of 5656 follows the same properties;

5656.854/4=1414.2135/3=471.4*1.4142135=666.66666

and your value of 4576 strikes resonance with Pauls Changes and the Gematria,

4576/13=352+352=
704
1056
1760 perimeter of khufu
2112
2464
2816
3168
3520

The Gematria for the above sequence, as derived from your calculation is replete, I repeat, replete. Methinks you have hit the nail smack on the head, the reverberations are ringing in my head.

All of your values have harmonic and consistency and the symbolism ties in perfectly, with the overall structure. This is no accident or coincidence. A refutation from anyone regarding this GEOMETRIC truth clearly has not grasped the concepts involved.
If you were to statistically analyse the given data and the chances against, you will find that they would be extremely low, therefore providing massive odds in you favour.

For me , a statistical analysis is not required, I see it immediately.
In significance, This is on top of the heap.

Its a shame you cannot patent mathematical discoveries, I have tried.

Supreme Entity indeed!!!!!!

Kind Regards
Latona

[Don Barone]

Hi Latona ...

The joy for me is always in the discovery. Yes it would be nice to make money on it but a long, long time ago when certain people were trying to convince me of the validity of The Jehovah Witness faith I promised that should I ever receive and find the truth I would shout it from the mountain tops ... this I will always do ... free of charge in the Gnostic Tradition for my insights are gifts given in an instant of true revelation from unseen sources and make no mistake about it I am well aware of this ! I am simply the messenger that has been chosen. Many nights at night I think ... why me ? it is an interesting story from that day back in Grade 10 geometry where I was totally lost and struggling to an instant of revelation, and I mean instantaneous where it became child's play and I went from a struggling 55 to a simple 96. It has been an interesting journey and I am glad there are some enjoying the train ride and the scenery with me.

In Love and The Light
Don Barone

PS: And to Paul ... yes my daughter although not able to articulate it exactly also sees this dodecahedron or whatever in the geometry I draw and although I sense it I do not see it yet. Yes Paul I am only scratching the 2-dimensional surface for now ... we must next move into the 3rd dimension and then maybe even toward the 4th ? For was The 4th Dynasty really The 4th dimension and Saggara representing The 3rd dimension ? Well food for a later meal for sure.

Best
Don Barone

[PMacG]

Hi Don, and Latona.

You are doing more than scratching the surface. What should arise is a 4th and 5th, as the relationship that appears is to do with movement's of the planets, the heavens, and even deeper in the construct of matter itself. The problem as I see it is, that two sets of maths had to be unified for the answer to appear, and this happens when the product of the hexagon is found to be a pentagram - the values are 'shape shifter'. Latona and I already discussed this a while back, but I have no wish to stand on a belief that the geometry works, as in the end it will be down to a proof, beyond all belief, as it must be seen to work by all.

I'm sorry I had no wish to side track you with other layers of the maths - so please pray continue to reveal what works - move the sacred pyramidal mountain. ;D

Paul.

[ariston]

Dear Paul,

Yeah, The consistency is sound and you will agree with me that the 4576 value has affinity with both The gematria and changes. In fact the sequencing is so consistent with our own lines of research, that I will find it hard not to include excerpts of your and Dons work into any book I may have forthcoming, with full accreditation of course.

4576/352=13

2112/352=6

2112/384=5.5

On the contrary Paul, feel free to sidetrack with the maths.

Kind Regards
Latona

[Don Barone]

Hi guys ...

Yes Paul side track away. One can only see so much ... we must always stand on the shoulders of other giants so please help and post diagrams as you see fit,. One image may send either of us scurrying off with new insights.

Best regards
Don Barone

PS: I have searched for a very long time for a mathematical solution to Giza. On my earlier pentagram image it was only Karl Hammer[ Mark Harlem] (outside of my inner circle of friends, Charlotte being one of them) that immediately conceded I had hit on the solution. I did not know for sure at that time but I am now. The geometry fits and is flawless what it is telling us is still unknown at this time but the same data found in France was of an impending cataclysm. I wonder ? ... The two pillars one of Earth ... in France and the other of Stone ... at Giza .. it fits so beautifully.

[PMacG]

Hi Latona.

Strange forces at work here, this is the second time today I have worked with the values you have presented here.

My comment about a sidetrack was to do with a smaller cubic hexagon in the GPs, as I pointed it out to Don in my previous posting. This gives a 6th and 12th division of the circle when the centres and corners of the GP's are connected.

The design for the GP's I got from this is of the sun rising between the two mounts of a Pylon - the sun being the Great Pyramid. I put forward this idea in line with the narrative of 'The Changes' concerning the bird's wing, or the wings of Cherubim, so the GP's have to be placed as a reflection of connecting opposites (making in total a 4 sided cubic diamond referred to in Sumerian texts as well): But this idea clouds the issue here somewhat, as Don is for me is on the money with what he has presented so far. Don has managed to get the measures of the roots to fit as he has pursued the correct overall measurements of Giza, and I saw this as a must for any advance in the work. So I had no wish to sidetrack him by putting my own pets forward - as to see the presentation of a cubic hexagon is enough to get my mind churning.

I therefore didn't write about sidetracking any of the sequences you give, they are indeed grand. I'm just pleased to see the work coming together in the hands of someone who can carry them further. When I started out with the maths of The Changes I had no idea if they worked for others as well, so I'm already most surprised as to how far all this has gone, and still running.

Regards to you - Paul.

[ariston]

Dear fellows,

In the sequence 4576 and in this particular example, a division of 13 gives the value 352 as shown earlier. a few gematraic correlations. Its is a question of whether byou think nthe Alpha numerics are sound, personally I believe they are beyond reproach and can only be applied biblically.

(greek notation where poss.)

4576-352=
4224-
3872-
3520-
3168-
2816-
2464-
2112-
1760-
1408-
1056-
704-
352-

Forgive me fo r not putting source code in, I have it right in front of me.(W) is omega (th) is theta and (xi) is xi.

The Way
H ODOS=352

The true conception
H ALH(TH)EIAS KATABOLH=704

The Virgin-The Conception
H PAR(TH)ENIA-H KATABOLH=704

The Fullness
PLER(W)MA=1056

Saviour
S(W)THP=1408

Unto God and one Truth
EIS (TH)EOS O MONOS KAI ALH(TH)INOS=1408

The True Lord Jesus
H ALH(TH)EIA KYPIOS IHSOYS=1760

Jesus the Net
IHSOYS TO DIKTYON=2112

The Net is Logos
TO DIKTYON ESTI LOGOS=2112

The Great Fish Emmanuel
MEGAS IX(TH)YS EMMANOYHL=2112

2464-NON APPARENT

True Jesus Christ
O IHSOYS XPISTOS ALH(TH)INOS=2816

Lord Jesus Christ
KYPIOS IHSOYS XPISTOS=3168

The Numbers of Jesus Christ
TO API(TH)MOS IHSOYS XPISTOS=3168

Mary-The Lord Jesus-The Holy Spirit
MAPIAM-H KYPIOY IHSOYS-TO AGION PNEUMA=3168

Mystery (of) Exoteric Cosmos(elegant order)
MYSTHPION E(XI)(W)TEPON KOSMOS=3168

The True son Jesus Christ
H ALH(TH)EIAS YIOY IHSOYS XPISTOS=3520

Mary the God childbearer-Ihsoys the Christ
H (TH)EOTOKOS MAPIAM-IHSOYS H XPISTOY=3520

The Holy spirit-the God childbearer-the christ
TO AGION PNEUMA-H (TH)EOTOKOS-H XPISTOY=3520

3872=possibilities

4576=2112+2112+352 and any combination thereof.

The fact that Don managed to derive a schema incorporating relevant symbolism with the multiple root2 dims. which leads to 666.666, and then come up with a number that defines the Gematria for his central axis division says it all for me. All of the components are present.

Obviously the gematria cannot be put into the domainof orthodoxy, simply because they considered it heresy at the council of Nicaea and Gematria can be shown to have been a part of the system used by the Gnostics of the second century ce, taking their inspiration from earlier sources and carrying on a hidden tradition.

There are loads more that can be derived from this sequence, using the roots and other geometric proportions.

'The iota=10and the eta=8' The Epistle of Barnabbas

'He is the Capstone' II PETER

Kind Regards
Latona

[PMacG]

Hi Don.

I have no wish to take away anything from these results, I'm over the moon about them. We can get on to any other minor points about other possible hexagrams or cubic hexagons at Giza later. It is enough for me to see this one come to light, plus the way the square roots play-out confirmed at this stage, could not ask for more.

I look forward to seeing all your results with the connections you mention.

Many congratulations, and all the best for a great New Year - Paul.

[ariston]

Dear Paul, Don, Charlotte,

Yes, Paul my love of 3D Geometry knows no bounds, but find that very few people can be bothered with it.

The Formula for the surface area of Khufu presents us with some very interesting results, again consistent one. Have you seen this before, if so , great, but I derived this independently gleaned via the given axiomata;

Khufu surface area=Half Perimeter*apothem(side)*base sq. which yields

880(rc)*356(rc)+440*440=

313280+193600=506880 rc.cu.

This value then strikes resonance in that it is also the result of;

144*3520=506880

'The thickness of the walls of the New Jerusalem=144 cubits'

288*1760=506880

This equation is key as both values can be found in Chronicles

'Meshellimih, son of Immer and their colleagues, heads of families numbering 1760, men of substance and fit for the work with the servive of the fouse of God' CHRONICLES 9:13

'......Asaph,Jeduthun,Heman were under the King. Reckined witht their kinsmen, trained singers of the Lord, they brought the number of skilled musicians upto 288' CHRONICLES 25:7

1760*288=SURFACE AREA

AND 352*1440
704*720
1056*480
1408*360
1760*288
2112*240
2464-IRRATIONAL
2816*180
3168*160
3520*144 For which the gematria is above

and 384*1320
220*2304

and so on.

Kind Regards
Latona

[Charlotte]

pmac said:

Hi Don.

I have no wish to take away anything from these results, I'm over the moon about them. We can get on to any other minor points about other possible hexagrams or cubic hexagons at Giza later. It is enough for me to see this one come to light, plus the way the square roots play-out confirmed at this stage, could not ask for more.

I look forward to seeing all your results with the connections you mention.

Many congratulations, and all the best for a great New Year - Paul.

Hello Paul,

I 'm glad Don's and Latona's work brought you back so quickly I checked all the math, values, and geometrical proportions rigorously and find all to be correct, save one: the last fraction of doubt. I do like Peter as the Capstone.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi all ...

It is really very interesting the violent manner in which this perfect geometry is being attacked. Even it you abhor the thought of The Pyramids being one giant math classroom you have to be cold not to admire the amazing geometry it produces.

This geometry is amazing and I was unaware of what this figuration produces. It is simply amazing to me that I found it in a painting [well actually not really ] and more and more of my Giza Pentagram is fitting as well.

We have this image here where a projection of The Paris Meridian extended hits the east corner of the square which encloses our large circle. See below ...



And then adding a few lines gives us this ...



followed by this ...



Hard to imagine the amazing co-incidence sequence needed to produce both these diagram, my Giza Pentagram and now my Giza Hexagon and to make them agree so closely 3 years apart. Quite remarkable I think and giving some credence that what I have found is real

Best and once again a safe, prosperous and enlightened year to all

Don Barone

[PMacG]

I better Hi All here.

Yes Charlotte, I do have another project on the go so I'm up to my neck juggling trying to look after Lilly, write, and keep an eye on what is going on here and the other side. As I said I'm over the moon about the work going on, but I'm not going to get immersed in the kind of conjecture in which people are trying to grasp on to handle's of old belief systems - I see Don is also rather Pd-off with it all.

All I can say is, if you have something you know works then don't worry it will all come together in the end. It always is a case of planting seeds and then allowing them to take root and bloom, they will become accepted as they sink in to the earth if they are correct - the truth talks for itself Don.

Latona, I see (and yes fully aware of possible delusions) the full working coming to light when you treat the GPs as cubic diamonds, the values then relate to the same given in the Sumerian King Lists, so the Hebrews, and Egyptians use the same values. The 352/144 sequence interests me greatly. When I took a look at the GPs (as I have stated before) the sequences where contained in a 4th division in the small GPs, and they matched the GP which is a 5th (they work as 5/8 or a 6th). The easiest way I found to relate this was through using the Metric for the 4th, as it is a 4th division of circumference, and then Imperial for the 5th, as it a 5th division. In the Small Gs you have a 216 and 288 base that must be cross-referenced with heights (all are opposites of +1 and - 1, this will then match the base of GP).

As I also have said Latona, you are the one to take the geometric further - I find your work consistent with what I found in 'The Changes' and you are fully aware of what I found. My work was very simple, as is the base of 'The Changes', and I held back from going much further even though I could see much more, this was because I saw problems with pushing things further. Firstly I'm not qualified, and secondly it indeed questions many people's beliefs by explaining certain narratives that have been grossly misunderstood - the trouble is they are very attached to such. I'm attached to a peaceful life so could be labelled either very wise or a coward, take your pick - no problem. (I saw Don made a reference to the same on GHMB in his last post, as indeed it is dangerous to caste gems to the swine, so maybe he was given good advice - only something tells me his work is very important to us in a time of need to shortly come). But looking back I still feel it was correct to just plant simple seeds and not to be attached to them - let them free for others to nourish, and you seem very good at giving such.

Blessings to you all - Paul.

[Don Barone]

Sorry I did not post it here ...

www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=233429&t=233429

Cheers and Happy New year !

Don Barone

[Don Barone]

Hi again just off to visit my inlaws ... free pizza lunch !

Anyway remeber the Rhind papyrus problem where the square is taken from 8/9ths and gives a result ?

Well I will have I hope some interesting data to post a little later if what I see in my mind works out mathematically.

As we always say around here ... you got to love those ancient Egyptians (or whoever built the Pyramids

Best
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Hello Paul,

It just occurred to me that aside from juggling time, it's a good metaphor for what we're doing together, throwing up balls for whoever want's to catch it and bounce it around some.

I too have decided to earnestly work on "Wilbur, Our Bacon", at the same time, btw, Don suggested it, and brought out my tons of notes and books the day before Latona engaged me in some conversation on the the subject, so it may be the right time.

It's easy to write stories about events or a biography, but really hard to write about Bacon in simple terms and get my point across, which I'm aiming for. Anyway, let's hope we succeed in our new endeavors.

Cheers, and an interesting 2008 to everyone

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

admin said:

Sorry I did not post it here ...

www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=233429&t=233429

Cheers and Happy New year !

Don Barone

Lol, I don't even have a pipe to put it in, but looks beautiful to me anyway. Getting a little uppidi are we?

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte and Happy New Year

Why don't we square the circle while we are at it ?



This is where the problem of 8/9ths and getting 3.16 comes from. 8/9ths was obviously a grade school attempt to introduce children to this version. This version yields exact results [ I think ]

I think the tsunami may be building in intensity

Cheers
Don Barone

[Don Barone]

Hi again Charlotte et all ...

I think the tsunami is cresting ...

On the square ? Bless those masons ...

I have not checked the math of this yet but I sense it is correct,

The squaring of the circle found at Giza ... coming full circle from that day in October of 1998 when the light first flashed.

And this same "V" pattern found in that painting that led me here. ... and on the mason crest and shield ... It all fits ...

Okay Don take a deep breath ...

Well have a look guys ... have I done it ? Is this diagram and Giza the perfect melding of Phi and Pi ? Is this what I have been searching for ? I don't know I need time to think and check the math but I did a very quick check and it is definitely going to be very, very close.

Behold The Gods of Geometry at Giza ...





And compare to this ...



Could this mean that if we draw this angle onto the square and then the circle that we have squared the circle enclosed ? Seems to fit all I know about secrets and mason lore. I just checked the angle ... that's right ... 26.52 degrees. Amazing ...

and finally this .... the image that started this latest line of research ...



And the angle ... the secret angle of mason lore ...

26.52 degrees

Whew ...

And my relentless search and belief that the ancients knew how to do this ... to square the circle ... I am flushed again ... temples pounding ... cheeks pulsing ... and glowing.

But I have been there before only to be let down ... but this time I sense it is different ... too many things mesh and fit and check ...

We shall see, if not 2008 has surely started out with fireworks !

Cheers
Don Barone