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Post by Don Barone on Jan 1, 2008 21:33:25 GMT -5
Slight revision ... Could squaring the circle be this simple ? Simply using the 3,4, 5 triangle and the angle it gives us of 26.565 or doubled giving us 53.133. I have changed the diagram a bit to use the diagonal of the square and where they cross the circle as my points to draw the square. Could it be this easy or am I missing something here ? Best Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 2, 2008 10:01:24 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte and Happy New Year Why don't we square the circle while we are at it ? This is where the problem of 8/9ths and getting 3.16 comes from. 8/9ths was obviously a grade school attempt to introduce children to this version. This version yields exact results [ I think ] I think the tsunami may be building in intensity Cheers Don Barone and more power to you, Don, I wholly share your feeling of being "On top of the world looking down on creation", hang on and ride back in gently . . . . Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 2, 2008 19:36:14 GMT -5
Hi guys ... wrong again ... sigh ... db
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 2, 2008 23:29:05 GMT -5
Maybe back on the right track ... And then this little doodle of mine which I call ... The Barone Compass Rose of The Squared Circle cheers Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 3, 2008 0:10:01 GMT -5
A revised version ... cheers Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 3, 2008 10:15:38 GMT -5
no matter, in your own words: the tide goes in and out. Stay in for awhile, if you can. The "Compass Rose" seems to have life in it moving counter clockwise, nice duddling. Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 3, 2008 12:16:10 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte Stay in ? When the sun is shining and the surf is up ? A final version ? Were these things on The Maps of The Ancient Sea Kings simply for decoration ? Cheers Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 3, 2008 18:28:26 GMT -5
... Co-incidence of all times ! Hi Charlotte, Bernhard, Daz Starseal et all ... Thanks to Cruxis I have in my possession an auto-cad drawn image of the Giza Pyramids. I have used this to test my theories after using in the past a smaller but also auto-cad drawn image supplied by Wayne Taylor. Here is what the results show. It is actually quite impressive. If we visualize the entire field it looks like this ... What I did was expand Cruxis' image just a bit to come up with this ... As you can see I have drawn in the same inter-connecting lines and it seems to fit almost exactly. ... EXCEPT .... Pyramid 1 seems to be in error. The point of intersection is 12.99 cubits due west of center ... Why ? .... Well allow me to show you the absolute uncanny and inexplicable brilliance of the builders of Giza ... Here is a close up of "The King's Chamber" (truly a misnomer ! ) generously supplied by Samuel Laboy an old friend and avid researcher of The Pyramids. Now have a look at this image and then I will give you the blow-up ... and now the detail .... In the image you will see I have drawn a line going from my point 12.99 cubits west of center through the intersection of center of the King's Chamber and the center of The Pyramid. I found this impossible to believe so I checked the math. From the center of the pyramid to the center of The Kings chamber is 44.77 ft - 8.585 (17.17/2) = 36.185 feet. If my math was correct and the angle consistent then the distance west should equal 0.618033988 x 36.185 = 22.364 difference of ... are you ready for this ... 0.041 of a foot or 0.041 x 12 (for inches) and we get an error of ... only ... and I still can't believe it ... we get an error of only 1/2 of 1 inch ... It is beyond the realms of possibilities yet I have doubled and triple checked my figures and it is mind bending in it's precision ... and on top of that the Kings Chamber is 140 feet in the air. So some how the builders of this pyramid managed to get the center of the Kings Chamber and The Center of The Pyramid to check with my square root of 10 circle to within 1/2 of 1 inch and do it 150 feet in the air. If I didn't believe in a lost civilization before I just might now. This is beyond possible if you ask me ... Is looks more and more to be the work of "The Gods" in reality. This is taking co-incidences into The Twilight Zone ... Hmmmm ... seems my diagram just might be correct after all ... In awe Don Barone PS: Here is a sneak preview of what I am starting to work on now. As you all know (or most of you) I have been saying for several years now that when I got a certain book back from Steve Nixon, mainly "Genisis: The First Book of Revelation" that I would find the same temple David Wood had found in the landscape of France here at Giza. Toward that promise here is the first of the images I will eventually post once the book is back in my possession,. this was one I had saved on my hard drive. Charlotte et all ... Behold The Original Pillar of Stone ... and original Temple of Man ... being slowly formed ... Not sure how long this one will take ...
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Post by PMacG on Jan 4, 2008 8:12:56 GMT -5
Hi Don.
The outcome of the positions found in the position of King's Chamber etc must indeed be beyond any coincidence. As I pointed out to you my last posting on GHMB I think we can now hopefully fully match the narrative of the construction of the sacred mountain to the work you have undertaken. The idea of the chamber being a true king's burial place, but that the king's name is Osiris now comes to mind, and that this matches the legend of the manufacture of the coffer by Seth intrigues me, and as I pointed out is fundamental to all the clues I put into 'The Sum of Things'. The idea of a lost knowledge of the universal construct, of a civilization who were our own ancestors who saw no division between any part of the whole, now must come more to mind. If there is no division it is we who (mind and body) who made all things - as nothing can be added or taken away from the union of Heaven and Earth (the husband and wife).
The Rose Compass has the same form as the Sun Wheel, as a 16 pointed star, this was the key the maths of both time and the measure of space, so no wonder in its important to navigation.
Anyway again I must say congrats on the work, and may the road rise for you. Paul.
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 5, 2008 12:22:42 GMT -5
Hi all ... It doesn't get any better than this ... The perfect melding of Pi and Phi Phi establishing the point to find Pi ... If it is accurate it is literally what I have been searching for. The perfect union of Pi and Phi .... ... and found at Giza. This is neat ! Cheers Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 5, 2008 13:56:45 GMT -5
Hi Don and Paul, Paul, you wrote: "The idea of the chamber being a true king's burial place, but that the king's name is Osiris now comes to mind..." Touché!!! That's what I meant this morning, Don, so there you have it from Paul as well. And "the sun is shining and the surf is up" I have to respond in a seperate post, can't keep up with you. Aside from this, two more things you wrote, Paul, resonate with my thinking. 1. "The image used by the ancients was of a bed upon whose legs the great man rests, and so the GPs are only a possible representation of the means of rest (the 7th position or level), for if the AEs knew the workings of how inner energy rises up from the earth their use of image and number will eventually tell so." This may have to do with the step pyramid of 6 steps, the 7th being "rest." 2. Your feeling is that " a much older civilization knew all, as they knew the source within, and they left coded information for us to decode - but in the end this coded information is exactly the information that flows over the event-horizon from the source (a singularity) into the structure of duality..." I can see this, and all has to return to the source and singularity. Charlotte
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Post by PMacG on Jan 5, 2008 16:48:17 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. Thanks for the post, that is about the long and short of what I can also say about the flow of info that creates all things. You put it succinctly.
The 6 steps of the cubic hexagon, whose values are given in the Hexagrams then produce the 7th step, as all values that form the hexagrams are x 6, and all then added together give x 7 values, as I pointed where given in the secret number of the Templar = 21 but this was given as a clue to the sequence of x 7s that occur between 1 and 10. The image which firstly grabbed me was the 6 step pyramid at Zosser - and I think I pointed out before Zosser for me is the place of great importance, even more maybe than Giza in the images it gives 6 and 7th step of Heaven, I saw it as the seed of knowledge used in later times.
As we have now had confirmed for us by modern physics, the structure of matter is on 6 and 12 lines, and this is also the amount of energy points and their opposite division's of action observed from the 7th centre to operate within the body. So the great man rests upon the 6 lines of energy of The Creative, which go to make up all structures within the created universe's body in The Receptive. This structure is the law, and the law comes from a point beyond the event horizon, before any time/space.
Indeed I did also say in one of last posts on GHMB, the energy also returns to the source placed in the singularity, so we see a cyclic flow between the two poles of light and dark, positive and negative, but that matter has to be transformed to cross over the event horizon (the single gate). We cannot perceive what is on the other side of the gate but because we can observe information crossing-over it, we can know for sure it still exists though we cannot say it does (possibly as an inter-dimensional reflection). This was the idea of the Hyperborean realm, or the ancient realm of the ancestor or kings given in many other narratives including the Chinese texts. This narrative also appears in connection with the 'Lord of the West' or 'Lord of the Underworld' who is Osiris.
In the narrative of Osiris I had the idea the Pyramids where not the burial of any earthly king now known to us, as I saw it representing the measure or the ruler of the universe who is the ruler of the dark waters (underworld), as the ruler is the divine measure - and indeed the Sumerian, Chinese, and Egyptian texts make this image plain to us as well.
The coffer left in he King's Chamber might be a relic left by the ancients, being of an unknown age even at the time of the building of the GPs. I had the idea the GP built was just to house the coffer and to encode knowledge known to surround its dimensions, and indeed the most important of Egyptian narratives about Osiris, Seth, Isis, etc. I read a lot about the coffer's manufacture, and it seems cut as if like butter as such a speed we couldn't replicate it today.
Many thanks - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 6, 2008 11:23:00 GMT -5
Though unable to follow your numbers and geometry, the result looks perfect to me Don I can see some images, other's I can't open. The drawing by Samuel Laboy is a marvel. That "the Kings Chamber is 150 feet in the air" intrigues me, but I don't know why. What do you mean? The first drawing of the compass rose still appears to me like a figure about to dance any second Paul, I love your posted words. Charlotte
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Post by PMacG on Jan 8, 2008 8:27:19 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
I see things are moving at a great pace, and so I shall leave it to evolve in the hands of Don and Latona - it is already done all bar the shouting as all aspects mentioned will come together now.
I have only one more thing to add about a link between the King's Chamber and Zosser/Saqqarah complex, in that there are two rectangles, one surrounds the Zosser Pyramid, the other is a short distance WWSW and covered in sand but plainly viewed on Google Earth. Both rectangles are of the proportion 1.760. This might seem of no value but I think it is still worth reminding Don and Latona of it for future reference.
The cubic hexagram does indeed gives the cross of enlightenment, and all delusions will thereby cease.
Blessings to you all in the great work now being revealed - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 8, 2008 11:33:13 GMT -5
Hello Paul,
Though I have thought about off and on, I never read up on how it was determined that Djoser's Pyramid was the first, then Snefruh's on to Khufu ect., and also make time to investigate Zep Tepi, and the ancestors of the AE, which rituals they followed and performed. I found very interesting things written but didn't follow up on them.
Blessings returned
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 11, 2008 18:18:08 GMT -5
Hi all ... Weird times for sure. Once again I thought I had solved the impossible and once again I was wrong. As Charlotte knows sometimes I think I am being given enlightenment but I am starting to think some other thoughts. Anyway I am back at Giza where it is friendly and I begin to know every angle. But I am confused for sure ... Smaller Huge Large blue square = 40 million cubits Small red rectangle = sq rt 2 x sq rt 3 x's 1000 = 2449489.74 cubits Purple square = 1000 x 1000 = 10,000,000 cubits Large red circle = 31415926.535897932384626433832795 or 10,000,000 Pi
Small blue sqaure = 1414.21 x 1414.21 = 2,000,000 cubits
cheers Don Barone
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Post by ariston on Jan 11, 2008 20:01:37 GMT -5
Dear Don,
I like it already;
Truth is Light ALH(TH)EIA ESTI PHOTOS 64.515.1870= 2449
The Saviour TOY S(W)THPOS 770.1678= 2448
2449/2448 DIVIDED 2=1224
the Net TO DIKTYON=1224
Fishes IX(TH)YES=1224
Kind Regards Latona
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 12, 2008 9:53:29 GMT -5
Hi Don, Why this hurried need to "solve the impossible"? Dr. Hoeller said in one of his lectures: "When you think you got 'it' - you didn't get 'it' - you'll never get 'it' - whatever you think 'it' is - that's not 'it'." He then told the story of a soldier who so disliked the military that all he could think of is how to get out of it. Unlike Klinger, he walked around the camp day after day, picking up things and throwing them back, saying: "No that's not it". After some more years, the base commander finally agreed with the rest of the soldiers that the man was crazy and called him to his office. Handing him his discharge papers, the man jumped for joy: that's 'it', and walked out a free man. I know I told the story before Everybody agrees that 'it's' journey is marvelous, not meaning to be preachy, but why not enjoy riding more or less peaceful waves, a tsunami causes great distruction. Sometimes you think you're given enlightenment, been there done that, it's the ego "thinking", hard to leave behind. Reminds me of Paul "being over the Moon" in the sense that all the gentleman cares about anymore is working for the good of humanity, our duty at this stage of the game. As I see 'it', we only get glimpses of enlightenment, "the bit from it", to be enlightened is to join the Immortals. Sir Bulwer Lytton: "Lay away your greatness and be marry with us mortals". Here in the "ship of fools", remember? Love Charlotte
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Post by PMacG on Jan 12, 2008 11:08:45 GMT -5
Hi Don.
Can I please just make a suggestion to you, and it is alone the lines you been been investigating already.
This is all very simple really, so if you constructed the pyramids as a diamond as to be a reflection both left/right and then up/down you gain 8 pyramids. You get a North/South line between the 2 images of the G1, and an East/West line between the 2 images of G3, and then G2 gives you the diagonals of an 8 spoke-wheel.
Now you can use the centre of both G1's as a centre of a circle whose radius is formed from one centre of G1 to the other reflective centre of G1. This will give you 2 intersecting circles of Vesica Piscis, and the East/West line between of G3's forms the central division of the rectangle. There is much more but the rest follows on from this first idea, but I shall not say more unless you find this works for you as well.
Regards - Paul.
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 15, 2008 7:16:17 GMT -5
Hi Paul ... Patience ... Even now I am working on a "unified plan of Giza" and if you check Grahams you will see it progress. But here is a sneak preview ... For your eyes only Cheers Don Barone
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Post by PMacG on Jan 20, 2008 9:00:53 GMT -5
Hi Don.
I have greatest patience in this as I only hope to be more help than a hinderance, sorry if it turns out not to be that way, but I try with good intentions. I have no wish to make claims or take any credit if any of these ideas appear to be correct at the end - please just use them or throw them away as per.
This image you give is indeed on the right track (IMHO) that I saw for the small circles and hexagons. But the first circle I had was between the centre of G3 and the bottom left corner of G1, but indeed there a few ways to place the circles between centres and corners. It was the fore-mentioned circle based on G3 to corner of G1 that gave the correct divisions of the circle as 6ths and 12ths in the placement of the hexagon. In drawing a second circle of the same radius it sits on the Eastern corner of the 51 degree diamond formed between the centres of G1 and G3, so to be as a mirror image of G3's placement (on the East/West line formed by G3, and picked out by a line from the centre of G1 to the top left-hand corner of G2 to be where the rectangle 1.732 intersects the East/West line of G3), this gives a very similar design to the pylon - well indeed I can draw one from it. Through this I can join up nearly all the corners and centres of all GPs, and it incorporates all the GPs in the form of the hexagon. G1 sits like the rising sun above these two circles, but still its centre and corners help to define it, so G1 is placed exactly as a sun between the two mountains of sun and moon.
I hope you do find this of interest, kindest regards - Paul.
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 20, 2008 9:33:37 GMT -5
Hi Paul when I get back from work in about 9 hours I will post some very interesting images of circles at Giza and their ratios to each other.
I think you will be entertained if nothing else.
cheers Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 20, 2008 18:53:09 GMT -5
Hi all Now to the images I promised. One interesting thing I have noticed is stuff I studied and pondered on last year or two years ago or even three years ago always seems to come back to roost. Case in point the many threads we went through figuring out which line from which corner equalled what other line at Giza .. EXACTLY ! The image to look at: ( and please note these distances have been confirmed by autcad to close to within 1/2 of a cubit by c. Wayne Taylor in threads here and at ma'at) Please note two yellow line are equal, two purple lines are equal and two blue lines are equal ... distances in a moment ... Well what I have been meaning to do ever since I came up with my Giza Circle ground plan was to actually draw these circles and see what happens ... and so I did ... draw the circles I mean ... Here is a series of images depicting the sequence ... Here are the blue and the purple ... and now adding the third And please note it almost looks like it hits the top of our large square. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After carefully drawing these I calculated the distances and arrived at ... But first I decided to fill the circles in and a most impressive display it gave me .. Diamter of yellow circle = 1533.46 Diamter of Blue circle = 1294.96 Diamter of Black circle = 1093.46 Small note: 1533.46 - 1093.46 = 440 since we used opposite ends of Pyramid 1 and 1294.96 - 1093.46 = 201.5 since we used opposite ends of pyramid 3 I played around with these and couldn't find anything meaningful so I decided to calcualte circumferences and areas and came up with this ... Yellow = 1533.46 Circumerence = 4817.5066705738043394529251225238 Area = 1846863.4447645265005943706395963 Blue = 1294.96 Circumference = 4068.2368226926386520795846756116 Area = 1317050.9889785148372242447428825 Black = 1093.46 Circumference = 3435.2059029942953145293620338808 Area = 939065.06167203553865631905239183 And here are some amazing things these three seemingly random circles produce ... Area of Blue divided by area of Black = 1.4025130342230635229624838641838 Yellow diameter divided by Black diameter = 1.4023924057578695151171510617672 Yellow area divided by Blue Area = 1.4022717876677852281755982331191 Yellow area divided by Black = 1.9667044597273449295370168704637 Yellow circuference divided by Black cicumference = 1.4023289665211062590975254730713 Yellow diameter divided by Blue diameter = 1.1841755729906715265336381046519 Yellow circumference divided by Blue circumference = 1.184175572990671526533638104651 Blue diameter divided by Black diamete = 1.1842774312732061529456953157866 So these three circles are indeed linked geoemtrically ... there is still more I feel but I need a break ... cheers Don Barone
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