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Post by ariston on Oct 30, 2012 9:07:53 GMT -5
Hello All, Don, Charlotte and Company. I haven't posted for ages, but have been lurking...and reading. Hope all is good. This piece is related to the Da Vinci movement that was formed during his years in Milan in the service of Ludovico Sforza.'Il Moro' leofacecase1.tumblr.com/Best to all Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Oct 31, 2012 6:53:41 GMT -5
Greetings Latona,
It's been a long time indeed since you posted, albeit when you do, as with the link given here, it is enough to study for a year and more days, for me anyway.
I don't know paintings in detail but can admire them, and surely, Leonardo and other Giants of the Arts and Sciences, of the Renaissance, "assembled their spirits and called upon the Muses" to create such works, as seen in their Works.
Thank you, and best regards
Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Oct 31, 2012 10:34:45 GMT -5
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 1, 2012 7:25:25 GMT -5
Hallo Latona, Francesco Sforza, Duke of Milan, is noted today on a site giving historical data, albeit vague and wrong at times, but a good start. It was Francesco's successor Moro whom you mentined in your Leonardish article: "Under his rule (which was moderate and skillful) Sforza modernized the city and dutchy. He created an efficient system of taxation that generated enormous revenues for the government, his court became the center of Renaissance learning and culture, and the people of Milan grew to love him." Florence was ruled by the great Cosimo de Medici at the time, close Friend of the Sforza's, under whose supervision parts of the Cathedral of Milan were completed. Anyone interested, enlarge the Spectacular Cathedral en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_CathedralManly Palmer Hall lectured on the Master Builders of Como, and some time ago I wrote a short article about this remarkable Guilde of Architects. All most interesting, thank you. Charlotte |
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Post by ariston on Nov 3, 2012 9:29:32 GMT -5
Hello Charlotte, Indeed! The SForza and MEdici were politically aligned and as such on of the reasons Leonardo went from Fllorence to Milan from 1482 to 1499, when the forces of the French deposed the Sforza, a detailed investigation relating to the Dynasties of the city states is worth doing.N Like Cosimo, Ludovico was a great patron of the arts and such as it stands, without such patronage, how can the master artist glean as much glory? Such as Milan Cathedral which in itself retains a largely Gothic appearance modelled on the early French and considered somewhat anamolous in comparison to the later Romanesque/mannerism, however, it being probably the greatest undertaking in the area, with the Carthusian Monastery Certosia de Pavia you can be sure that most of the artisans in the area, Architects, Painters and Sculptors had something to do with both. Returning back to Giovo, he is often described as being the first biographer of Da Vinci, who was legendary in his own lifetime and the following years, let alone today. A large part of the Lombard movement flowed from his prescence in Milan... and as such the backdrop also provides good insight into how the flow of the idea is transmitted. Paulo Giovio's brother was Benedetto. translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedetto_Giovio&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbenedetto%2Bgiovio%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D634%26prmd%3Dimvnsbo&sa=X&ei=LiaVUJmpH6XT0QWj9IH4Ag&ved=0CCoQ7gEwAQBenedetto, significantly..was involved in the final stages of the illustrated De Architectura , the 10 books by Vitruvius, significant in many ways I suppose, giving your citation relating to the Comacine, but Architecture in the Northern Lombard area seems to have been prolific, maybe because of the Comacine tradition, especially in towns such as Campione and Carona nearer the Lugano area. I am trying to track the object, apparently a marble of Benedetto is in the Museo Civico and it was made by the sculptor Christofaro Solari, 'Il Gobbo' by Vasari. Christofari was the brother of the Leonardeschi Andrea Solari. Paulo also wrote a biography of Christofaro, who it seems in his lifetime was mentioned in the same sentences relating to quality as Michelangelo. Benedetto being from the Isola and being involved in the publication of De Architectura certainly follows in the Comacine tradition, that's for sure. The Solari/Giovio/Da Vinci association is a nice one. Regards Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 5, 2012 9:18:21 GMT -5
Greetings Latona, Read through most of the links this morning. The achievments of the Artisans of the time are beyond the pale, and the question of what motivated them to built these magnificent Cathedrals, paint and sculptor, and create various mosaic images. Inspired Minds and Hearts conspired to advance and lead Humanity to finer Air, I think. Unfamiliar, and then so many familiar names when "England sprouted the seeds of ancient science" are in the links. Though its Architect unknown, the Basilica of San Vitale with splendid mosaic designs can be added to the Master's works en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_San_VitaleCheers Charlotte |
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Post by ariston on Nov 6, 2012 6:36:45 GMT -5
Greetings Charlotte, An incredible building for sure, t'would be great to actually go to see one day...in Ravenna. As for the style..Procopius and his Buildings of Justinian is consistent with the style. penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Procopius/Buildings/1A*.htmlThe Architects of Hagia Sophia; Isadore of Miletus and Anthemius of Thralles. Relevant in all ways; Bernard Rucellai was married to Nannina Medici, Cosimo the Elder's granddaughter and Lorenzo the Magnifico's sister. Rucellai was the chap who donated the Gardens Oricellari to the Academia Platonica of Ficino. translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orti_Oricellari&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dorti%2Boricellari%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1152%26bih%3D586%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=b_GYUOORIqHH0QX77YHYDQ&ved=0CCUQ7gEwAARelevant in all things, Leon Battista Alberti was the pre-eminent Architect of his day..painter too. His ethos was based in harmony and th flow of proportion, in 1485 he published his own 10 books on Architecture, obviously taking his model from Vitruvius, who else, a manuscript of which was found by Poggia Bracciolini in a Monastery in 1415, although Architecture is a specialised art and skills are passed on regardless of lost and found manuscripts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gian_Francesco_Poggio_BraccioliniAlthough something was lost as Brunelleschi's dome at Florence set a an example in the west which hadn't been accomplished since the Pantheon, namely a rather large dome above a barrel, The Dome at Santa Maria del Fiore was exceptional in it's day, still is. Alberti was the designer for the Rucellai Palace for Bernard 's father Giovanni. www.palazzorucellai.org/(S(rexl3ryoiyi0dc2zsr3cnovh))/StandardPage.aspx?id=8&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_RucellaiThe arts are inseparable in the age of the Humanist, one can't discuss one without the other. BestRegards Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 6, 2012 9:41:12 GMT -5
Greetings Latona,
Indeed, one can't discuss one without the other to glean the Mind of The Illustrious of the time, whoever they may have been, it is "not an impossible task" to understand them.
"Apart from all this, history shews that subjects who have received benefits have proved themselves grateful toward their benefactors, and that they have repaid them with thank-offerings in generous measure, seeing that, while they have profited, it may be, for the moment only by the beneficence of their rulers, they nevertheless preserve their sovereigns' virtue imperishable in the memory of those who are to come after them."
Love History and the language, can't wait to read all, thank you.
Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Nov 8, 2012 8:36:46 GMT -5
Hello Charlotte, Indeed, well put. Giorgio Vasari in his Lives of the Artist,Architects and Sculptors tells many tales of various masters plotting against one another in relation to commissions bestowed upon by the benefactors such as the de Medici,Sforza's and Vatican. One story tells of TheArchitect/Sculptor Bramante and Raphael, who were related; trying to convince Pope Julius to make Michelangelo stop work on the Pope's tomb, by saying that it was bad luck to have a tomb made already..so soon before one's death. Instead, Julius should convince Michelangelo to start work on Fresco's in a newly made Chapel in the Vatican, lol. Vasari, a great friend of Michelangelo, suggests that Bramante's reasoning for the cessation of works on the tomb was that Michelangelo's quality was unsurpassable and therefore Bramante wanted to prevent further works in sculpting, whilst conniving Michelangelo through the Pope, into area's fo art where he was not so experienced, of course comparable to the likes of Raphael...still! Although not so good to complete such a great task as the Sistine Chapel. The irony being that by the plotting to discredit Michelangelo in his ability...Bramante actually served to be the catalyst in a work of art that is considered to be Michelangelo's greatest......and his forte was Sculpture!!!!!!! Leonardo and Michelangelo didn't get on. One can still detect reluctant respect and admiration, but this is overlayed with the fact that Leonardo was more of a thinking mans artistan and Michelangelo and artisan's artisan. Also, the Aristocracy/Clergy considered Leonardo untouchable and I think Michelangelo resented this because Leonardo was by no means as prolific in Sculptor or Architecture as Michelangelo. Although as a scientist anatomist Leonardo excelled and this is key to understand the aspects of proportion and anatomy in relation to art and sculpture, how are they apart, they are not and therefore the same applies to Architecture in relation to harmony and proportion in relation to geometry and therefore Vitruvius applies relative to the navel of man being the centre of the circle and square in Leonardo's sketch. This also applies in the forms such as the Greek Cross and Latin Cross types found as the standard in so many Churches and Basilica, ergo, as if the Ccucified Christ serves as the floorplan of the edifice dedicated to him. Michelangelo put himself on a pedestal and could be considered guilty of self pride, although this was a reflection of his great skill and adulation his benefactors poured on him, Pope Julius especially tolerated his behavour which could at times be considered as being spoiled. This confidence in his own ability is was well found for sure,modesty doesn't manifest, although he made many people money through his actions.Stories of materials suppliers making enough money for their daughters dowries show that he must have been well sought after, if not always liked. One tale goes that Michelangelo criticized the Venetian Titian of Cadore in his basic sketching of human types, although he did give much credit for the colouring tones and shadings,Michelangelo suggesting that the Venetians didn't practice sketching enough, for it is only through meticulous practice that you can ever hope to achieve a masterpiece, which should be crafted in stages, Michelangelo also studied cadavers regularly in his quest for anatomical proportion and perfection, shades of Leonardo, I suspect. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Julius_IIRecalling the Rucellari again, Bernard and Nannina {nee Medici}, the sister of Lorenzo the Magnificent and grandchildren and children of Cosimo the Elder and Piero the Gouty respectively. She is one of the models in this painting by Gozzoli. The three daughters of Piero. www.allposters.co.uk/-sp/Maria-Bianca-and-Nannina-Medici-Younger-Sisters-of-Lorenzo-and-Giuliano-Detail-Posters_i1592261_.htmI single her out because of the Ficino donation, but the same could apply to the Medici, how a dynasty of Bankers ascend to Grand Dukes and Pope's. An Old World Order, so to speak. Lorenzo's daughter Maddalena was the Daughter in Law, Sister and cousin to Pope Innocent the Eighth, Leo the Tenth and Clement the Seventh respectively. www.geneall.net/I/per_page.php?id=57130BestRegards Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 9, 2012 9:52:39 GMT -5
Greetings Latona,
Read the entire account by Procopius on the masterful design, building and modifying of Hagia Sophia, and my "lisping and thin-voiced tongue" can say nothing, though I had a vague picture and understanding, now vastly enriched by Procopius, of purpose, Persons involved, and prevailing state of affairs at the time.
A Salute also to Poggio Bracciolini who brought Knowledge to the World.
Love the Oricellari Gardens, even more so the Gardens of Florence and its "Horticultural Palace" as I see it. Traveling some in Europe, it is evident that Royalty, Priesthood, and Men and Women of Learning and means, created and cultivated such Gardens, many in Bavaria and my Neighborhood.
Thank you also for the informative last post - now to days of sorting out and understanding and remaining coherent. The same holds true for the Pope Julius link.
The best to you
Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Nov 10, 2012 9:55:17 GMT -5
Hello Charlotte, It is worth taking the time to read such texts, that is for sure, even if Architecture isn't particularly interesting to some, the historical perspective's are great. Relating to cross cultural aspects relating to the period, pivotal moments as such, we find that english humanists such as Thomas More and John Colet certainly has profound effect on the culture of the english and without such figures to take the movemnet forward, with the likes of Erasmus, then the works of Shakespeare couldn't have been written. Elizabeth's father was no less enamoured to be considered a Renaissance King and as such engaged in war with France in an alliance with the Vatican, obviously the Pope wanting to deflect Louis the 12ths attention from the land near the Holy See,{see the League of Mechlin} etc, France has taken Milan in 1499. Under Pope Leo the Tenth, The Rucellari Nephew, Giovanni di Lorenzo Medici, Lorenzo the Magnificent's son made Thomas Wolsey, Henry's confidante a Cardinal. Relevant to Architecture, Wolsey was the builder of Hampton Court Palace, which is relevant as Florentine Architects worked on the building an so ushered in earlier forms of Renaissance architecture, which was to be later superseeded by the Palladian style which was imported by Sir Henry Wotton, Elizabethan Courtier and secretary to the Earl of Essex, coleague of Anthony Bacon, Francis's brother. Wotton also brought Vitruvius to England in His translation, an erstwhile denizen of Florence and Venice, but that was in the generation after in the High Renaissance. Relevant to Early to mid period relating to Hampton court, Giovanni da Maiano worked on the palace. He was a member of a well known family of Artisans from Florence. www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/bio/g/giuliano/biograph.htmlSignificantly, it was during Pope Leo de Medici's reign that Martin Luther nailed his 95 thesis to the church door ushering in the reformation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XHave a nice weekend Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 11, 2012 10:02:05 GMT -5
Hallo Latona,
Reading the post with familiar names and lives from previous study, the well written wiki link betokening part of this seminal European era (while reaching back to more ancient times), I am somewhat acquainted with, the wranglings and Relationships of Popes and Kings and all mentioned forging the following centuries, was, beside a good read, an experience of traveling here and there and again meeting great and influential Persons. Great and influential Persons surely is an understatement, considering also the links within the link.
Of the Artisans I have much to learn, a most pleasant and enlightening study.
Best wishes
Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Nov 12, 2012 8:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by ariston on Nov 13, 2012 6:04:23 GMT -5
 Hello Charlotte, all is well I hope. This tree might help to show a lineage, although not completely direct, which may incorporate the continuance of the philosophy attached to Architeture that may have been syncretized from one point in history to form the Grand Lodge. In effect a mixture of Archictecture and mysticism, ie Freemasonry. Sir Henry Wotton, was the colleague and secretary of Anthony Bacon and Essex respectively, so we can see relevant association also with his niece marrying Edmund Bacon, Anthony's half brother. Sir Henry was the translator of Marcus Vitruvius' 10 books and he also introduced the Palladian system into England and passed it onto Inigo Jones and all and sundry, Nicholas Stone included. The table shows an indirect connection between Wotton and Wharton. Therefore The introducer of Vitruvius was the brother of the Grandmasters great uncle. This table shows the Loggia at Venice and that the table also shows many of the Lombardo family who were a branch of the Solari. Incidentally then, after Jacopo Sansovino, the Grand Overseer of works in Venice was Palladio, although he is not shown on the table. He was around a bit later. It is actually quite funny because Palladio was mistaken that the Villa was the basis for and imitated by classical architects in the formation of Temple styles, whereas this was not the case, therefore many villa in the Palladio style have huge pediments/Portico, taken directly from the Temple in Palladio's favourite Giant order, which was Michelangelo preffered style in mannerism. Of course Palladio was also influenced by all those that came before. Although his master Giovanni Fontana is shown as being a descendant of one of the master Campione, which as you you know is a stones throw from Como. www.campioneitalia.com/interna.asp?idarticolo=42&lang=eng en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_PalladioAlthough many stories permeate relating to Freemasonry in England, ie, there is one relating to Sir Thomas Sackville, Anne Boleyns cousin and Bess' second; and the York rite, from one point of genesis, it may seem that with all humanist endeavors, that One line of Freemasonry descends from Rennaissance Venice, how could it not, actually. Although many streams flow. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sackville,_1st_Earl_of_Dorset bestregards Latona |
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 13, 2012 10:08:29 GMT -5
Greetings Latona,
Trying to catch up here, read up on Palladio and His system introduced to England, the connection to Nicolas Stone is an arched bridge to see the streams flow.
Interesting as well is how the Venetian Government was chosen from the Guilds.
Thanks also for the chart with names I recognize, and Thomas Sackville between Father and Son Cecil, amazing when the picture widens.
Off to work.
Regards
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 15, 2012 9:37:33 GMT -5
Hallo Latona,
Had a third look at the Venetian Lodge Table.
Interesting also that Anne Boleyn was involved in the dissolution of the Monasteries, apparently influencing Henry VIII who seemed bend things to His liking.
I must make time to read the Letters of immensely important Henry Wotton for a better understanding of Him being so closely allied with Essex, Anthony and Francis Bacon, which opens another door for me, and not only for this reason do I want to glean Wotton's Mind.
Also read up on Mona Lisa. As chance would have it, in changing an electrical cord behind a bookcase I had to remove all the books, one being on the History of Art of the Renaissance, depicting a nude to the waist drawing of Mona Lisa by Leonardo I have never seen before.
Leafing through the "De Luxe Edition", translated from the French by Walter Pach, Garden City Publishing Co, NY, I saw much of our subject under consideration regarding Art.
Regards
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Nov 27, 2012 9:38:43 GMT -5
My attention on the Solari Architects this morning, I happened upon this Gem designed by Marco Solari at the behest of Gian Galeazo Visconti, first Duke of Milan, redesigned by Giovanni Solari, and continued by his son Guiniforte Solari. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certosa_di_PaviaI also looked at the House of Sforza, a ruling Family of Renaissance Italy based in Milan, with quite a Family Tree, among the Relations the de Medici. I can't help but think of the extended Renaissance Family, Architects, Painters, and Sculptors, whether blood relations or not, as a Group Life on Earth at this particular time, purposefully enriching Humanity. A great day to All! |
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