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Post by Don Barone on Feb 3, 2008 1:10:50 GMT -5
Hi all ... spurred on believe it or not by Cruxis I dug out my copy of Starry Night Pro 6 and entered my time machine and journeyed back ... way back and after watching Orion rise in the sky to about 57 degrees or such I noticed that Sirius was in hot pursuit as we turned the clock backwards so I decided to see where Sirius would stop or max out and finally arived at Mar 7th, 24,925 BC at about 6:13 AM or maybe dawn ... and noticed a most unusual thing. I have not seen or heard this mentioned anywhere before so it may be a new discovery, then again it could be old hat but as I said I have not seen it anywhere before. The maximum angle of culmination to Sirius which is reached at this moment in time, Mar. 7th, 24,925 BC at about 6:13 AM is ... if one can believe Starry Night Pro 6 ... is EXACTLY ... 51 degrees 49.99 minutes or ... 51.8332 which is almost, well close enough for me ... THE ANGLE OF THE GREAT PYRAMID, as well as being within 0.0059 of a degree of checking spot on to The Golden Angle or 51.82729237298775250653169866715I for one found this amazing ! So was The Sphinx really Sirius ... a dog ? And could it all be this old ? The original kinglist would seem to agree. Is the Pyramid pointing us to Sirius ? Is it really .... As Above ... So Below ? Did the cycle end in around 995 AD and is this when "the book" was opened and we started the 1000 years of redemption as spoke of in Revelation ? Well what do you think ? Here is the image and data. Click for much larger image Cheers Don Barone PS: We are facing due south.
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Post by PMacG on Feb 3, 2008 11:11:53 GMT -5
Hi Don.
I think it is extremely interesting, and no not seen any other reference to this. But is not Sirius a fixed motion star and therefore not Precessional? In other words it is called the Bow Star because it follows the movement's of this Solar system (sorry we follow it), and not the rise and fall of Precessional constellations.
The thing that is interesting is the position of Sirius at the Precessional height of Orion. Have to have a good look at this, as it does seem too close to the correct value to be an error. You might be on to something great with this.
Regards - Paul.
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Post by Don Barone on Feb 3, 2008 20:37:55 GMT -5
Hi Paul ... I don't know about Sirius being fixed as it sure does seem to go up and down. Please note The Sun apparently at 240 degrees or 2/3rds ... One of the sacred Egyptian fractions ... It would appear that Sirius may go from 0.00 degrees to 51.83 degrees. Most interesting however I have to emphasize that every time I do it I get an different value ranging from 51.4 to 52.1 degrees so I do not know what is correct. Best Don Barone
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Post by PMacG on Feb 4, 2008 6:31:05 GMT -5
Hi Don. Happy Birthday, and indeed it might be a very special one.
No indeed I take your word for it that Sirius is Precessional, and if so, the meaning I had gained from the ancients texts takes on a new light. Therefore it was the movement's of Sirius (as the gate guard) that were taken as the fixed measure of the movement's of the great waters - hence Isis (and the reason for being the most important star in the heavens being symbolically picked out by following 3 stars of Orion's or the great man's belt - the goddess follows). The measure given is 2 x 25.920 = 51,840 and as you are getting 51.830, then this gets more and more interesting as this is also equated by you to the measure of 'The Golden Mean'.
If Sirius can be taken as a set measure against the Sun, etc, it infers that the they are connected in more ways than one ( that is another matter concerning the make-up of the trine), then indeed you have an answer to the question, though I feel there will much more to take into account from on in. The values of Precession found in the I Ching as used by the ancients and in modern Astrology, as I hope you are now aware, are derived from the 8 Trigrams and hexagons/Hexagrams through the simple means of placing binary cubes or 64 dice together.
There are two main factors that give this relationship of the Hexagram, one is Saturn, the other is the Moon (I could also included Mercury and Jupiter in this because of the maths); whereas the relationship between the Earth, Venus, Sun is 1.6 = 5/8 (which is also the difference between the 4th and 5th division of the Earth's circumference)) or a Pentagram, and also the movements of Venus against the 12 divisions of Precession also forms the Pentagram (but each of Venus's cycles shifts by 2 degrees or = 2/72 = 1/36, so this is why the values of Precession is doubled, hum). The ancient sign was the Pentagram placed within the Hexagram, and this sign would therefore be found in what you are investigating, and indeed as I had hoped, that this is also to be found in the GPs.
So indeed I wish full speed in resolving this find, as you might have cracked, indeed if all works out as per then you have.
Kindest Regards, and indeed some excitement over your find - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 4, 2008 9:39:47 GMT -5
Wow! First Hppy Birthday to you . . . Happy Birthday dear Do-on Happy Birthday to you! So you are 58 or traveling on route 58 from California to the "waters?" What a great Ark, dove, and Noah. That works for me perfectly. I think the Sphinx was a cat/lion. Sometimes the thought that the Sphinx is the pet lion "behind" Ramses II in the battle of Kadesh, as Ra-mese-s also signifies a "birth", and according to Fern, the wayward prodigal son, came home, also the 9th number, since 8 went in the Ark and 9 came out, and hecame the progenitor of the Great Egyptian Civilization: the "Dark Prince of Egypt." That would be the "handsome" Masaw of "The Fourth World" of the Hopi, in which we live. "The people began slowly to move off the shore and into the land, when they heard a low rumbling noise again. Looking around, they saw a handsome man and asked, "Are you the one who has been making these noises we have heard?" "Yes, I made them to help you find the way here. Do you not recognize me? My name is Masaw. I am the caretaker, the guardian and protector of this land. "The people recognized Masaw. He had been appointed head caretaker of the Third World, but becoming a little self-important, he had lost his humility before the Creator. Being a spirit, he could not die, so Taiowa took his appoinment away from him and made him the deity of death and the underworld. This job Below was not as pleasant as the one Above. (The Hopi capitalized A&B) Then when The Third World was destroyed, Taiowa decided to give him another chance, as he had the people, and appointed him to guard and protect this Fourth World as its caretaker." How is that for wisdom and the prodigal son coming home? I have a note on the same page: Masau'u is the terrestrial equivalent of Orion? This account of Masaw is almost idential in words, and certainly in meaning to Beelzebub's first and second descent to our planet. Great! Interesting also that you wonder if we started the 1000 years of redemption, ending around 995 AD, because that is Fern's "granted time extension of Virgo." Two pieces of the puzzle independently found Have a great Birthday, Don, and the very best to you, and yours. Love Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 6, 2008 9:22:37 GMT -5
Hello Don and Paul,
So what do you think, about this birth of a new humanity in the ark, the connection to the Egyptians, the Hopi, and Beelzebub, for only 3 versions of the same event?
I don't think there can be anymore doubt of humankind being destroyed 3 times, but seed lives being preserved to generate a new humanity.
The Sphinx being a lion, older than the Ramses II kingdom, therefore "behind" the King, a minor rebirth or cycle within the greater. Not to forget Akhenaton. When following "the kingdoms" of the AE, an orderly progression of their plan of conveying knowledge becomes apparent.
Paul writes that "it was the movement's of Sirius (as the gate guard), which might be the "Back Door" in the north of the Hopi. I can't find the quote at the moment.
Just my penny's worth
Charlotte
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Post by PMacG on Feb 6, 2008 16:11:34 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. I could have posted this to both of your posting today and it would fit, so as I would have go back to the other I shall carry on here. The image given in the ancients of the escape from darkness, and in the Bible this happens 3 times; we have Abraham's escape from UR and the undergrowth or burning bush, then the children of the light escape from their toils in building the mountain and the city in Egypt, and then again from Babylon as they escape from the power of the goddess or the whore. In this I see three stages of escape in the process of creation. Abraham and his building of the shrine to to goddess of the black cube does not appear in Biblical texts but still does in Muslim texts, as the shrine he and his son Ishmael built still stands in the centre of Mecca. When I last spoke of this I was told it didn't happen because it is not in the Bible, but my answer was if it good enough for National Geo Mag it is good enough for me as they did an article on this a while back. We are dealing here with the image of brushwood or bush found in the Chinese texts as being a place of darkness before the outer construction of the buildings were introduced by the sages. For me even this idea produces some deep and profound questions about our true nature, or place in a creative process were we exist even before the outer light appears in the void. Abraham offer to not sacrifice his own son and to build the shrine to the goddess who gives the working's of the created visible world in her narrative. At this time the children are still drifting from place to place with their herds, stopping off an any place they can find to water the animals. They are then taken in firstly by choice (if I remember rightly) but then under slavery in order to build the pyramid and the city, and we again also find the same story in the Chinese texts, as a symbolic reference to the mountain or pyramid and the building of the city is of the construction of matter and the seat of government from which the ruler brings all things to order through out the land. In the story of the Exodus it appears we have two accounts of the victor and vanquished, and so now seems the time for the dragon kept secret in Glastonbury, as it heart beat comes back to life, and to see what is coming to life or light is this: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1542699/postsI feel we are presented with a deeper meaning to what is considered a historical story, as in all ancient cultures they wanted be connected to the gods or heroes who made the earth. As indeed the Greeks make plain. In most of the work we are presented with we are always looking to the stars and planets to fit this story, and I see that they do, but we are missing the inner part of the story as it also fits the inner construct of the universal body, and possible on an even more easily provable level. The binary code and the way it fits the geometric expansion appear in the way inner parts talk to each other, as we know they are interconnect at a level we can only define as nothing. If you ask most people (as I ask a doctor this same question), if you have a jar and you suck every atom out of it what do you have, is there still something or is there nothing in the jar? the answer given is nothing. Well as we know that answer incorrect, as in nothing you still have something, but that something can be known to exist through various means, but we don't what that nothing is (YET!). I have proposed that the universal binary code found in the working's of the goddess narrative and maybe in Sirius/Sothis as Isis, so it is the way the forces throughout all parts talk to each other, and that we can know how to do the same as the ancients knew how to do this. Yes! This is a speculation, but it is one I can now make with some sense of it being not completely off the wall. This is because these math have already been seen in DNA, RNA, and in the energy streams coming from singularities. I would thereby propose this universal binary code is the most logical way that anything could communicate at a deep level or dimension, as this means of communication is present even in nothing, and can be accessed at any point or place in space anytime, as it is always there even if nothing else is. But such secret have been held in the hand of a few, who wished it to remain hidden until now, but they do now realize the time in which we live. Blessings - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 10, 2008 11:20:58 GMT -5
Hi Paul, I think we agree that the story and stages of creation are all the same in meaning or essence. You say that Abraham and his son Ishmael built the shrine to the goddess of the black cube in Mecca. Does the general Musilm community agree with this? I never heard it mentioned by the Muslims I know in Egypt. What if I ask and they show me to the door? I was told, for instance, that the entire world was created for the Prophet Mohamed only, but not what that might mean. I didn't respond because I think I know what that might mean, and couldn't agree, hence couldn't argue the point. "The inherent law of time is contained in the goddess", yes, because it is a sustaining faculty, therefore feminine. I have been thinking all along of buying the book of the black goddess you recommended, but thinking doesn't cut the mustard. The dragon's heart beat coming to life in Glastonbury has preoccupied my mind since you first told the story. I'll see what the link gives. "I have proposed that the universal binary code found in the working's of the goddess narrative and maybe in Sirius/Sothis as Isis..." She says: "I am she who rises in the dogstar." The communicating on a deeper level or dimension which can be accessed at any point and place in space anytime, as this communication is present even in nothing, yes again, because I realized once to the nth degree that there never can be nothing. This insight I came to via one of those trains where one caboose attracts the next and couple automagically and move by themselves in the mind/nous until the whistle blows and the destination reached, naturally high. I love those and wonder where the locomotive comes from, maybe lookin/ concentrating on a motive. On one hand, it would be helpful in speeding up "the process" if it could be communicated, on the other it would be detri-mental because self-experience is a must to understanding fully. Delightful, this stuff life and we are made of Wishing you well Charlotte
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Post by PMacG on Feb 10, 2008 12:38:44 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
Read 'Abraham Father of Three Faiths' National Geographic Magazine December 9. 2001. Driven to make the Hajj Muslims in Mecca circle the Kaaba, the shrine God commanded Abraham and his Ishmael to build.
Sorry for short reply Blessings - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 11, 2008 10:02:20 GMT -5
Hi Paul, I could only read the beginning of the Abraham article without subscribing. I know about the hajj but have never heard a Muslim talk about the goddess of the Kaba. There was a book you mentioned a while ago, could you please tell me the title again? The article about "The Kolbrin Bible" is interesting, it sounds as though the writer takes it literally, but maybe not, as many scholars write in literal fashion on purpose. I have been writing every morning and had little time to concentrate on one subject, not to metion my work. I'm still marveling over Don's "Ark", and am waiting for him to say some more. If you read this, Don, there is an interesting thing you said: "God took a point of nothingness, point of the Pyramid and sent it off into the void in a pyramidal form" Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Feb 11, 2008 10:41:30 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte I am at work but will post a website I did on this theme later today.
Cheers Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on Feb 11, 2008 11:00:51 GMT -5
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Post by PMacG on Feb 11, 2008 15:53:33 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte - do you mean 'The Myth of the Goddess' by Baring and Cashford - Rider. ISBN 0-14-019292-1. This is the book that anyone needs to read to get a good grounding in the goddess narratives. I'm not sure whether the Muslim in the street would know what they go around in the middle of the Hajj, but Mecca was the centre to the Goddess in pagan times. If you want me detail more of what they say in NGM I surely will for you. Here is a link you might find of interest, but lots and Wkki: www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/1.htmBlessings - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 12, 2008 9:17:58 GMT -5
Thanks Paul and Don,
It is the book I was referring too, Paul, and I agree that the Muslim on the street would be taught about a "goddess" Allah forbid. I asked my friend once if there is a mysterious stone in the Kaba, "maybe" he said, end of conversation. I will read more after work.
I read your link, Don, and see much in it, but have to print it out to look at each statement, and give my long-winded view.
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 13, 2008 9:40:27 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte - do you mean 'The Myth of the Goddess' by Baring and Cashford - Rider. ISBN 0-14-019292-1. This is the book that anyone needs to read to get a good grounding in the goddess narratives. I'm not sure whether the Muslim in the street would know what they go around in the middle of the Hajj, but Mecca was the centre to the Goddess in pagan times. If you want me detail more of what they say in NGM I surely will for you. Here is a link you might find of interest, but lots and Wkki: www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/1.htmBlessings - Paul. Hi Paul, I read 2 pages of the link, what can I say? I think you know. Maybe I'll just mention the story of the cave in which Joseph, Mary, and the infant Jesus hid from Herod behind an undisturbed spiders web, thereby saving the holy family. The Muslims have the exact same story about the prophet Mohamed being saved from his enemies by such a web. I would like to know more about what they say in NGM, and thank you Charlotte
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