"Babble On" in Egypt

[Don Barone]

Hi all ...

This post is long overdue ... about 8 years perhaps ...

"And Moses went up onto the mountain and when he came down his face shone ... and he looked through the people and was angry that they had built a false god and the people were killed and the idol melted down and destroyed and then Moses went to Pharaoh (why no name ?) saying let me people go ... and on it goes ... "

Did Moses really meet 'God" or did he simply have an enlightenment or revelation ? Is there a difference ?

Charlotte you comment on my mind but we both know it is a gift from beyond. A spark ignited as a reward (?) for past services, who is to know but a gift as surely as Santa Claus used to come when I was a child. It was all given to me in an instant and I have spent 8 years trying to draw it out. All my past unconnected thoughts and ideas are slowly coming together.

The thread of The Fabric of Time a reality and slowly we are unraveling it and taking it back to them.

and every once in a while Ego rear's it's ugly head and I dare to copyright a thought or an idea when Jesus tried to tell us "Any power I have comes from far beyond"

All interconnected and all harmonious, all is Golden.

Will I ever or am I capable of understanding the big plan ?

Time will tell but like the true master of The Renaissance, a picture is never signed for the gift is from "God" and not the artist's hand ... as are my thoughts ... a gift from "The Gods" to be shared freely with all who would listen ... and always looking for that fertile soil ...

And one I know suggests it is from "The Spirit World" it comes .... and do not the wise say this is our quest ... to understand what and who we are ... and return ... to ... THE SPIRIT WORLD !

Regards
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Babbling some more, I learned that Moses was not a historical figure. The maid of Pharaoh's daughter brought to her the ark in which Moses was, and Pharaoh's daughter told the maid to fetch the Moses' mother to nurse him, she did, Moses grew and his mother gave him back to Pharaoh's daughter. Pharaoh's, who "called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water." He then was taken to Pharaoh's court to be instructed, and "moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and deeds."

Pharaoh has no name, it's a generic term, and Moses represents the next step in our conscious evolution: an Exodus. Surely, nobody takes at face value that Moses parted the Red Sea with a wand and held the waters at bay till all the children of Israel passed over. They complained to Moses that they rather be in the bondage of the old than in the wilderness of the new. These things cannot be taken literally and make sense. It can only be understood in allegory.

To my understanding, a thing is revealed in revelation, whereas to be enlightened one is like the Buddha.

The gifts from beyond, such as flashes of insight, or these "oracle dreams" I sometimes mention, are, as Mr. Hall puts it: "a magnificent reward for right effort", or "the reward of your own integrity."

Likewise with me, the unconnected thoughts and ideas of the past come slowly together. I see it as the result of continuous learning, beginning with dots and with study lines form connecting them to form a picture.

About the ego, you know the way I "talk."

I think we're all capable of understanding the big plan in our own time "to understand who and what we are", a miniature cosmos. Consciousness in 7 dimensions is the thing - who can be?

Obviously, we are working on it

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Don and Charlotte.

I know Don says this is for all, but on reading it there are not that many who could answer it in a way to give insight to this question. It is a question not for a limited view of things, but a great view.

I see the story of Amoses (the king or ruler) as a creation story, and one that doesn't stand by itself, there are similar stories to that of Moses. Moses is the giver of the Book of Law (he is the law or the ruler). If we look at the Book of Law as the a means of imparting the law of the mountain to the people, then we are looking at how the law structures creation, of how the inner light or fire rises to shine forth from all that has happened in the structuring of matter (the dark waters of the void) to allow the light to reveal itself on the pyramidal mountain top. The story of the union of the Mountain and the Lake is contained in the story of Sacred Lotus or The Golden Flower. Did you know that the light of the sun comes forth in minutes when the dark cloud of hydrogen reached the correct density, once the reaction starts just minutes. The dark clouds of hydrogen sit motionless for millions of year until moved by a wave upon the waters, then through the forces of gravity the clouds forms into clumps and forms all that is needed for the formation of a solar system.

If we are look at what we are we have to look to all the transformations that take in the sun (a star), as all parts for life are made within it, and in the process upon Earth the process is completed. This process and our total link to 'One' nature that follows the law at every turn tells that we are part of that same process that goes back to when events become visible on the horizon, that is why the point in front of a singularity where movement starts to be observed is called an event-horizon. We the people are the parts of creation that come forth from the horizon, as through all the labour's of the people the mountain and the capital of government (body and mind - all the dimensions needed) are constructed, and in the completion of the work's of creation the waters of darkness are divided into light and dark. In this way we the escape the power of darkness and come forth into the light of life on earth. I therefore see the Biblical narrative as a perfect one in describing the whole process.

The nature of a Buddha is to see this link to the source of being, as to become 'One' with all things, as being Buddha means to comprehend the changes or transience of all created things, and so such a master gives the law of creation placed into the 8 spoke-wheel to the people (a go-between or messenger) and they then understand that the vehicle, which they thought was theirs alone, is not - it is part of the whole construction of that universal process. This brings the ego from the individual to the universal, and this brings about a great change in world-view, as by being part of an eternal process we no longer fear the vehicles death as we find that our nature stems from and is deathless. There is indeed a difference between seeing this conceptually and really putting it into practice by allowing each moment to rest and to always be with the new - at one with the source of the well, but with practice it the seed change can be made good.

Regards and great blessing to you all - Paul.

[Charlotte]

Viewing your greater view, Paul,

I never heard it explained this way, "that the light of the sun comes forth in minutes when the dark cloud of hydrogen reached the correct density, once the reaction starts just minutes. The dark clouds of hydrogen sit motionless for millions of year until moved by a wave upon the waters, then through the force of gravity the clouds forms into clumps and forms all that is needed for the formation of a solar system."

In the SD the "clumps" are called "curds", the force that moves the waves upon the waters is called Fohat, who "turns with his two hands in contrary direction the 'seed' and 'the curds,' of Cosmic matter; is turning, in clearer language, particles in a highly attenuated condition, and nebulae."

Also, "... whether Fohat or the famous FORCE of science, nameless, and as difficult of definition as our Fohat himself, that Something 'caused the Universe to move with circular motion,' as Plato has it; or, as the occult teachings express it:

"The Central Sun causes Fohat to collect primordial dust in the form of balls, to impell them to move in converging lines and finally to approach each other and aggregate. Being scattered in Space , without order or system , the world-germs come into frequent collision until their final aggregation, after which the become wanderes (Comets)."

You mention the ego being brought "from the individual to the universal", that ego being our divine evolving ego as opposed to the "image is everything" or what clothes you wear and car you drive worldly ego.

Our nature being deathless, the divine poet agrees:

Death has but got of me my dreg of earth,
And yeaned me new in time-untainted birth.

Exalted poetry brings me to my knees.

Love
Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Charlotte.

I was trying to be un-SD, well maybe I couldn't be SD if I tried ;D.

I find Stars and the way form and produce solar systems from flat plains absolutely amazing. Details like, it takes light 200,000 year to rise from the sun's core to its surface and just 8 minutes to reach us after that. All hydrogen particles are positives and fusion only starts when enough pressure exists to force them together to make helium and then all elements needed for life. Each little bubble on the surface is a thousand miles wide etc, and all those magnetic loops that break and fire off all that mass into space, the whole thing is truly alive as for me are all things. Love it all, but always have, and for me it always put things to a different perspective and I find that larger perspective a great help in day to day terms.

I was talking to a person who was very depressed about life and personal death until I explained about the life of the sun and how it goes through all its cycles to make new life, they felt better after that. Afterwards someone said 'I don't know what you two were talking about but there is such a change' - OH! Just about the sun, I said.

Love returned - Paul.

[Charlotte]

Greetings Paul,

I know the SD is somewhat shunned, but I find "gems" in it, as Madam calls some of her clues. Gems, because I can find them elsewhere, modern science as well, and they make sense to me.
I find the formation of the solar system, and our evolving equally amazing. One of my teachers also talked about "bubbles". Maybe I'll find where and what if I find the time

A few words carefully put works wonders at times, yes, on many subjects. About 2 weeks ago a lady talked to me about Plato, again, academia-wise. In response I mentioned Marsillio Fecino, and she ran and got a piece of paper: what did you say his name was? Maybe she'll follow "the sound."

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Charlotte.

Those 'Bubbles' are the segments of heat on the sun's surface from which magnetic loops arise, each 'bubble' is a 1000 miles wide, and like the tectonic plates on earth their pattern I believe is hexagonal they follow a universal model for heat convection (those Bees again). Maybe sun people are giant bees ;D

I hope you enjoy your maths lessons, I'll try and keep up as well.

Paul.

[Charlotte]

Hi Paul,

Fine, we'll do the formation of the solar system along with everything else ;D I understand how you connect the bees and tectonic plates. I think Jim Bowles had something there with the plates, but . . . .

Well I'm a sun people but still buzzing from flower to flower collecting nectar so we can flourish together.

"If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight."

Charlotte

[magisterchessmutt]

charlotte said:

Hi Paul,

Fine, we'll do the formation of the solar system along with everything else ;D I understand how you connect the bees and tectonic plates. I think Jim Bowles had something there with the plates, but . . . .

Well I'm a sun people but still buzzing from flower to flower collecting nectar so we can flourish together.

"If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight."

Charlotte

Hi All of you Don's Geeks! You just mentioned 'Bubbles', so I just thought I'd "Pop-In". I just mentioned to Claude what I saw here so well expressed by everyone, and don't mean to distract it's flow of imagery, but such unusual words do correspond to what I was studying last night. Just a bit of historic pseudographica from the old London psyche delicate Underground of the late 60's and early 70's before things got too chaotic and their bubbles popped also. Here's one in particular I thought was interesting.
www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/barney.html

You might recognize him as an alternate character I posted about in my OTRH Drama at GHMB recently if you look closely at his face in the picture and paint it Purple! LOL!

Best regards,

Stephen

[PMacG]

Hi Man are you trying to blow our minds or what, might all get bubbles of PINKWIND and go flying off at great speed into the cosmic realms. Have you been on OZ Mag site? See postings on on Tribe of Sacred Mushroom at The Middle Earth, and Straight Mick who played the demon out of the Tibetan Book of the Dead - the day they stole Charlie's Gee's Trip Machine.

Blessings from a now aging but still bubbling Hobbit.

[Charlotte]

Greetings!

I have a long ways to go to make the Geek Squad, but we're a bubbling few on a Sun-day And thank you for your kind words about our home here.

I knew all along you had it in you Paul lol.

Hmmm, studying the "old London psyche delicate underground"? You mean they were doing it there too ;D The bubble has to burst sooner or later so its atmos-phere can diffuse over the planet. After all, we changed the world by seeing it with an open eye, and speaking it on the pain of ridicule, but Aristophanes didn't care either.

Hawkwind X-In Search of Space

Now why does this remind me of Hawking, Stephen, who thought philosophers cannot keep up with current science, when in fact, current science stands on Philosophy, and has no choice but coming back to Philosophy, because

"Man's reason is in such insolvency to sense that though she guides his highest flights heavenward, and teach him dignity, morals, manners and human comfort, she can delicately and dangerously bedizzen the rioting joys that fringe the sad pathways to hell."
TOB, the divine poet.

Sorry, I wanted to respond to

"This is the last entry in the Hawkwind log. It was not dated. I have seen the Tao and traveled the middle way. I have heard the word and spoken the word. I have lived in the flesh and eaten the flesh. I have been blinded by the light... And now I believe in the supreme and mystic darkness of nothing, in the deepest reaches of the immaculate void, in infinite nothing, in the unremitting realms of nothing, in the abundance of nothing, in the incomprehensible infinity of untold nothing, in absolute nothing."

In words, it is doesn't go far enough: absolute nothing=absolute everything=I am=everyone is everything=when I real-ize me as everything=I real-ize everyone as everythingatoncethesame as me, good and bad. Buddha joyous laughter and compassion.

Alice O. Howell: "When the processes unite, their is a flashing glimpse of the unus mundus-the "One World."

Back to the house of wax.

From infrared roses, shoeless on holy ground, to the Tudor Rose, the former aiding in grasping the latter, that's a long and most beautiful trip in my view.

The best and much love to everyone.

Charlotte

PS I have S.M. new e-mail, wrote to him, but he didn't answer. He doesn't like MB's anymore, and might have gone to the point beyond talking, methinks.