Pistone Giza Grid 1

[ariston]

Dear
Freres and Soeurs,



"He who has insight, let him calculate the number of the Beast 666......" Revelations

"The weight of gold Solomon received in one year, 666 Talents...."Chronicles2

"The Children of Adonikam, 666"Ezra

These extracts from scripture are a clear reference to the dimension, as highlighted by the Giza Grid of each diagonal of the 9 squares, as defined by the 1414 by 1414 axis.

Regards
Latona

Addendum;

The given axes 0f 1732,1414, as per Flinders Petrie, which represent the roots of 2,3 can be found to have an inconsistency from the zenith of KHUFU to MENKAURE.
On the grid the dimension of 1414 is given from zenith to zenith, this is actuall 1416.75. 1732-1414=318, taking the 220rc and 100.75rc that is left from the half measures of the Pyramids, this gives 320.5 rc, out by 2.75rc. Therefore, this gives only a proximity value of 666, and that close to 1.4142..*1000.
666 becomes 667.
Froma Greek perspective, it may possibly be that the value of 666 has been passed down to us from Giza, based on the measuring, by the greeks, of these axes, which, may have been possibly rationalised to bring them into line with what they regarded as archetypal geometric proportions, root2 and root3. The diagonal of a sq. from its base, and the measure of the fish-vesica pisces, which the values are applied to.
The ideal value of 1414... and its maintenance, to produce 666..would only require a differential of 1.375rc eccentricity from the centres of both zeniths. Even with the value of 1416.75rc, instead of 1414, I still find it beyond coincidence that the diagonal of the squares within the grid, yield this value or proximities.

[ariston]

Dear Friends,

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Regards
Latona

[Don Barone]

Hi ariston and WELCOME !!!

When you are doing your research NEVER round things off. I feel it undersells The Ancients.

Now lets look at your figures ...

Square root of 2 x 1000 is 1414.2135623730950488016887242097

Divide THIS by 3 and we get ... 471.40452079103168293389624140323

Finding the hypotenuse of this yields ... 222222.22222222222222222222222222 x 2 = 444444.4444444 and square root of this is ... 666.66666666666666666666666666667

Aw those Ancients ...

And multiplying this by 3 gives us 2000. The length of The Chase Line and the length of the hypotenuse with sides of 1414.217 ... Lovely ...

cheers
Don Barone

[ariston]

Hey Don,

I agree with you mon frere, However, as stated before I am coming from a Greek perspective, as perceived, whether the Grid applies to conception is another matter.

IRRATIONALITY AND IRRATIONALITY are relevant in this case. The fact that 1414/3*1.4142=666 or there abouts, is the main focus of the grid. The mention of this figure in The Book of Kings, Ezra and Revelations is a clear referral to this, I am sure of it.

For me Proximity is all that matters, 666 or 666.6666666, even 665.9.

The whole point of the grid then is, not neccessarily to show in meticulous detail the workings of it, but to highlight the proximity to the given diagonal of each sq, 9 in the grid.

This is the point, and as such should be the main focus. I do however feel that rounding things off should not be discounted, this is a Platonic method as stated by him in his Republic, and as far as I am concerned, HE IS THE MAN.

As usual, I respect and appreciate your views.

Regards
Latona

[Charlotte]

Gentlemen, I am impressed to say the least. All past and present post of geometry and number, here and elsewhere, are bringing me closer to an initial understanding of viewing things from a different angle.

Aw those Ancients, and not underselling them - I have known for a long time, and your appreciation of Plato, ariston, I so welcome, so much rubbish is written about the great man.

Thanks

Charlotte

[re giza grid]

Dear Charlotte,

I am convinced that this is the biblical derivation of the given value on the diagonal of each square. Any scriptural reference to this, is a cipher pointing to the Giza Plateau, but I would say that .

We know that Plato was a Pythagorean, it was through Pythagoras student Parmenides, that Socrates and then Plato became exponents of the Logos. Not forgetting to mention Empedocles and Heraclitus. All initiates of the Dionysian Rites, which Herodotus tells us was adapted from the Osiric/Osirian rites.

This is the same for all grid references, but on the Giza Grid, taking the central intersection point and then taking the next two down to the three and fourth, that lay on the perimeter, The Pythagorean Tetrakys can be formed. This can be formulated from all four sides. The Tetrakys being a representation, as far as we are told, of the Monad,Duad,Triad and Tetrad, which all form the Decad. I now feel that the Pythorean Tetrakys was actually another cipher that points to the Grid Reference at Giza.

For me, this points to a Gnostic origin, at least, for the book of Revelations,and what about the O/T references. The Literalists attending the Council of Niceaea 325ce did not have a clue, or maybe they did, but decided to suppress the truth, maybe a select few knew and suppressed truth for political reasons, you know how megalomaniacs are about secrets and domination. Constantine being Roman Emperor definately puts him in that category, Megalomaniac. A role he was born to fulfill.

Buenos Noches Amiga
Latona

[Charlotte]

re said:

Dear Charlotte,

I am convinced that this is the biblical derivation of the given value on the diagonal of each square. Any scriptural reference to this, is a cipher pointing to the Giza Plateau, but I would say that .

Buenos Dias Amigo,

You would say that, yes. The Giza Plateau seems to be also Don's main point of reference, imposing it on the paintings of the "Master Painters", and Morph applies geometry and numerical value to every thing.

I have known for quite some time that I must go back to school and take serious lessons in geometry and higher mathematics, hoping to catch up by doing it. With all his drawings, Don has brought me to the point where I now look at a picture and automatically project phi and lines on it.

We know that Plato was a Pythagorean, it was through Pythagoras student Parmenides, that Socrates and then Plato became exponents of the Logos. Not forgetting to mention Empedocles and Heraclitus. All initiates of the Dionysian Rites, which Herodotus tells us was adapted from the Osiric/Osirian rites.

This is how I see it and these giants of philosophy, and that Herodotus was initiated by the Egyptian priests is obvious in his telling, for it takes one to know one. What is your understanding of "that" which lets the "twain", what is and what isn't, meet?

This is the same for all grid references, but on the Giza Grid, taking the central intersection point and then taking the next two down to the three and fourth, that lay on the perimeter, The Pythagorean Tetrakys can be formed. This can be formulated from all four sides. The Tetrakys being a representation, as far as we are told, of the Monad,Duad,Triad and Tetrad, which all form the Decad. I now feel that the Pythorean Tetrakys was actually another cipher that points to the Grid Reference at Giza.

Who originated the Giza Plan, and why this location?

For me, this points to a Gnostic origin, at least, for the book of Revelations,and what about the O/T references. The Literalists attending the Council of Niceaea 325ce did not have a clue, or maybe they did, but decided to suppress the truth, maybe a select few knew and suppressed truth for political reasons, you know how megalomaniacs are about secrets and domination. Constantine being Roman Emperor definately puts him in that category, Megalomaniac. A role he was born to fulfill.

Nice: "A role he was born to fulfill." I think a select few knew, others had clues, all had the same agenda of gaining power and for that they had to discredit the Gnostics. It holds to this day, the Gnostics being seen by the man on the street as pagans as defined by fanatical preachers who themselves don't know what a pagan is, really. The average person confuses a pagan with an a-theist, as they define themselves today. A pagan is really one "unchurched."

I grew up strictly Catholic churched, and we were taught that anyone other than a Catholic was a "Heide" (heathen), bad and evil, and to associate with them warranted at least "Fegefeuer" purgatory), so I befriended the only Prodestant family in town. Amazing, when I think back, I was a Gnostic then because in my heart I knew things other than what they taught.

Buenos Noches Amiga
Latona

I suppose it is evening where you are, so

Gute Nacht mein Freund!

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

Good Monday to everyone

Do these questions have definitive answers?

Why are "all things" seemingly rooted on the Giza Plateau?

Why is it located where it is?

Who carved the Sphinx, really?

Who built the Pyramids, really?

How were the Pyramids built, really?

Why does Hermes say that Egypt is a copy of heaven, where here below heavenly things are projected, built in concrete, the human drama plays out, and that Egypt is the temple of the entire world?

Why is the fame of the Egyptian Civilization more enduring and interesting to the people of the world than other great civilizations past?

Who were the ancestors of the Ancient Egyptians by whose teachings they performed their rituals?

In the hope of getting clear, one of these days...and thanks for real answers.

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi All.

I would view Latona's posting with the greatest interest, I would add that such ongoing observation seems to be bearing fruit quickly in the hands of those with the skill to do it.

I returned from travels into the hell realms today. The skill of not playing the blame game works wonders when below, and so the method when put into practice will hopefully bring assistance to those who are deeply enmeshed and see no means of escape (patience is a virtue - it can be done).

All the best to you all - Paul.

[ghia]

Can't wait for your Book, Pmac, maybe i'll glean some enlightenment in calculation! You might teach this old dog a new trick!
Welcome back from the fire.

Ghia

[Charlotte]

I have been thinking about you, Paul, and how things might be going regarding your last post, not playing the blame game and having patience works here too. I hope you are well and am glad to hear from you. Maybe we can discuss your book some now, beings I am finished with "National Treasure"

I do follow Laton's posts with great interest though very little skill to interprete, but some, nevertheless, and the nickel will drop when it does. Can't say more sun to the sun!

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Charlotte and Ghia.

Ghia - everything in hand, spoke to Gerry today, and thanks a million great photos.

Was interested in value that Latona posted on GHMB, as I had also concluded the product as 8.8.8., hope more details are forthcoming. I've already said my bit and wish it to be thought provoking rather than endless rehashes of putting forward what I personally think the answer should be and whether it is the same as in Chinese maths, it will take a combinations of open minds to get the end product. Don's work has been a treasure (talking about treasures that is in a minute) because he has looked at what is actually on and possibly under the ground at Giza, and Latona is not fearful of thinking out of the box, I like that as you never know what arises.

Got to see National Treasure a couple of times while away, and the film is indeed good in a Hollywood kind of way, I had a question to ask you about the clues: Is there anywhere that a Holy Thorn from Glastonbury was planted in the USA?

I still am inclined to see the treasure as a spiritual power source of hidden knowledge rather than the gold and material wealth always gone for by the film makers. The power of oracle and foreknowledge is worth more than any gold to anyone walking the straight track.

Fire away about the book, I will try and answer any questions to the best of my ability, and as I have tried to point out the maths are really quite simple, but I can't see for myself why others can't see it because I have seen it. Ken Taylor on Earlyheaven said he didn't see it at first either because he was thinking it would be more complex than it is, and that is what fooled him - so if you lead the way I'll follow or whatever way you wish.

My mother-in-law is no better no worst but it will not be long I thinks before I'm off again, I was also in UK for other reasons attending to other grave family matters but that is not for public digestion. Glad to be back, and hope to get down to the nitty gritty of explaining the way out of the blame game (manipulation and intrigue), I want to get the idea firmly of why and how we get involved and how we can get out of it, it would be help to a lots of people I thinks. 'The Sum of Things' wasn't only about the maths but also the psychological narrative entwined with the oracle - as above - so below.

Blessings to all - Paul.

[Charlotte]

Hi Paul and Everyone,

What is on or under the Giza Plateau seems to be becoming the order of the day, high time for these things to be made known to those who are interested and to effect a collective quantum leap in the mind of a certain number of people. It always happens this way, the rest are subject to Gurdijeff's "Law of catching up." A must since no one can be left behind.

Glad you saw the movie. I watched it as I wrote and paused many scenes to have a closer look of what is shown. There are "fillers" ala Hollywood necessary for such a movie, and many telling clues, but no mention of the Holy Thorn from Glastonbury being planted in the US. I would be thankful if you would elaborate on the "National Treasure" thread.

It is explicitly stated in the film that the search is for "a treasure beyond all imaginings", "the treasured past" - "to big for one man, not even a King", precisely the treasure on and under the Giza Plateau", which it is the privilege of Kings to find out, according to Solomon, a treasure "for all to see - it belongs to the world and everybody in it", and, says the FBI agent: "Give it to the people."

Lastly, says Ben's father: "In King Solomon's Temple was a winding staircase, it signified the journey that had to be made to find The Light of Truth." It really can't be mistaken for gold and silver of which Solomon wanted none, save by the reviewers jetting over the waters of the ocean.

Cheers

Charlotte

[PMacG]

Hi Charlotte.

The idea about the planting of the same variety of thorn as found at Glastonbury (which comes from the Holy Land and flowers at the time of the passion), or from a sprig taken from Glastonbury itself, arises from reading one of the poetic inscriptions - it was a long shot but long shots sometimes hit the mark.

We do indeed have the same idea about the nature of the treasure, a different one from the norm these days, and I did feel the film expressed that very well. I know we promote a different idea about real wealth, not the same kind of gold, but the gold of 'The Middle Way', of the equality of the divine wealth through which all can receive mutual benefit.

Kindest regards - Paul.

PS. Edited to mention Somerset County and its possible links to parts of the story - another long shot.