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Post by pmacg on Feb 4, 2007 17:04:18 GMT -5
Hi Don. If you or anyone is interested in having at look at this any feed back would be great.
I hope you remember the drawing you sent me done by Gary, well I have been looking at over some weeks now and might have come up with something. This concerns the position of the Smallest Pyramid and the Valley Temple.
The radius between the centre of the smallest P and that of the Temple is also the same as between the centre of smallest P and the SE point of the Great P, so a circle can be drawn, and inside the circle a hexagon can then be drawn. In Gary's drawing as it is a reflection or a mirror image a second circle can be drawn based on the second smallest P, and again a hexagon can placed inside it. You can also draw another circle based on the point of the Valley temple and it passes through the centre of the Great P - all this is simple but effective when combined with Gary's work, so we have a layered cake of geometrics. There are some very interesting angles given by all this.
If Gary's drawing is then again unfolded to give a second mirror image with the Great P placed on position 1 south a complete diamond with angles 51 degrees is formed, so only the smallest Ps are not doubled but their central east/west line marks the base for both parts of the cake.
In the use of the 2 great Ps as the radius of 2 circles based on their centers we get Vesica Piscis and a rectangle of 1.73, the same rectangles as were also formed in the first part of the drawing. I can also see that the Middle P plays apart in this as between these two layers all the lines that can be drawn between centres of and points of come into play. If you would like to look at this I would be very grateful to hear what you think - as to me the geo forms both an image of an eye and of the two mountains of the pylon.
I would send you a drawing of it all but my windows system is no longer on line, and the drawing capabilities on the Apple are limited to say the least.
These geometrics all fit the working of the math in the Book of Changes, so the use of only 3 pyramids is the simplest way to express the story, and this describes two parts (as with the great and lesser) one of which is invisible while the lesser part is then again divided so only one part of the whole is visible (the story of creation is also found in the first chapter of Genesis), as there 3 Ps and they as can be seen even on Google Earth to be given an eight division (a convex line down the sides), which was said by to be first notice by an RAF pilot while flying over the Ps. The use of 3 and an 8 division thereby gives us the formation of hexagrams or cubic hexagons from triangles or trigrams. The hexagrams or cubic hexagons (like a box, I do give the design in Appendix A of the book) are formed by either extending the lines of hexagon externally or internally.
Paul.
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Post by pmacg on Feb 6, 2007 17:37:04 GMT -5
Hi again Don. With Gary's permission I used his drawing and did just a very rough idea on how all the Pyramid's centres and corners link up in a 6th and 12th division of the circles made between the Smallest P and Valley Temple. I posted it on other side, but no more, business concluded . Hope birthday went well - Paul.
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Post by pmacg on Feb 7, 2007 7:35:24 GMT -5
Hi Don.
Broke my word of yesterday, sorry about that, but I can do no more on this subject. I shall not try use more force to push my own delusions or whatever on this, as it will turn trying to be helpful into a conflict of interests and there are already enough of those.
Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 7, 2007 9:50:19 GMT -5
Hi Paul, If I could, I would discuss angles, devisions, and the like with you, this is your, and the job or contribution of others. As you know I come from a different direction - toward the same goal Conflicting interests are a matter of being right and wrong, there are as many ways to the goal as there are people going towards it, which is every living soul whether they know it or not, but I'm not telling you anything new so I say Hello Paul Charlotte
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Post by pmacg on Feb 8, 2007 5:59:22 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
To clarify my point about conflicting interests - yes we can have them in the debate that leads to the correct answer as they are then a useful tool. But when vested interests are also present in vying to prove point of view as being correct over all others just because they fit a belief system. These actions of vying have not led us to mutual cooperation by trying to find the truth, as the information given is repeated over and over so that it looks to be genuine when it in fact fabricated. For this reason conceptual debate has already only achieved the opposite to the purpose it should have been used for, as it has played its part in bringing us to conflict and warfare. This occurs because we make a judgement just based on the information we believe, and reject those bits we don't want to believe, and this has constantly been the root of our modern downfall, I could give details of such but it would fill the site.
The problem we have when dealing with debates over the internet or otherwise is that we often don't know if we are talking to a single person who is genuinely trying to reach the truth or to a spokesman for an organization bent on manipulation. We must remember that we live in dangerous times, where people would rather take conceptual sides without have fully knowledge. We find ourselves in situations where people debate with us with the express purpose of trying to use the debate as a means to gain an insight into what we think. This then allows them to make judgments as a process of de-humanization. This process of judgement means inclusion or exclusion, and this is becoming more and more conducted at the end of a gun barrel, as more and more join the pursuit of domination and wealth.
We have come to a state where this can be taken as a general statement, to which there are indeed but few exceptions, as most people now don't know any better. One of the points in my book was that the 60's revolution started out as a spiritual experiment but it was quickly taken over for political and nearly became a civil war - both sides became as bad as each other, as parents saw their own children as aliens that should be got rid of, and the feeling was returned (kill the straights). So did we not learn from this lesson of not becoming involved in such entanglements, as by becoming so involved the good and the visionaries were also discredited, and it was then that the planet was lost. The true battle took place then, now we are only living in a side show of coming to accept the consequences of the mistakes made then. So why we are still more interested in the conceptual debate of beliefs that are disintegrating influences than in the pursuit of practice and its benefits of union?
The Book of Changes says, 'if you pull up the sod the roots come with it', and when you find the root has evil intent then quickly withdraw to a place of safety if you can. Oh! Oh! Ha! Ha! When the shock comes at first the wanderer laughs, but then he looses his companion and his inn (his shelter) is burnt down, and this was not the work of one day but the sum of many.
When the dark forces emerge from their hidden places and are entering the field, if you have somewhere to go then make haste - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 8, 2007 9:23:34 GMT -5
Hi Paul, Yes, I get the last sentence in all its implications, and you will inderstand when I say that I believe in the gods and call upon the benevolent ones. I agree also that in the 60s we started a spiritual revolution: 'so you want a revolution, well you know, we are all doing what we can . . .' and it was gradually usurped into the mainstream and apparently made null, but only apparently because we carry it within us, and the impact on the collective human psyche cannot be erased. A huge number of people moved up a few quantum notches, will never come down to what was and the remnants thereof still with us. Reminds me of my philosophy teacher, who said that formerly, in the dark and middle ages of Europe, there were only a few people to hold in consciousness what is necessary to preserve for posterity, on this or the next world oncoming, whereas now their are millions world-wide awake and aware, more or less, standing firm in this realm, and those who strive can enter, those who do not go back into "the divine ocean" and will join the next appropriate for them "life-wave" to start as ants again, so to speak. The Hopi discribe this process also beautifully: "So all over the world these chosen people (their initiates) suddenly disappeared from their homes and the people began following the cloud by day and the star by night. Many other people asked them where they were going and, when they were told they laughed at them. "We don't see any cloud or any star either!" they said. This was because they had lost their inner vision of the Open Door on the crown of their head; the door was closed to them. Still there were a very few who went along anyway because they did believed the people who did see the cloud and the star." Today there are many people who, when told that we are living in, and doing a revolution in consciousness, are not sure but come along anyway because they can no longer deny the chaos and changes everywhere, and "just in case." You say: just look around", I was doing just so yesterday not having to work, and said out loud: god the whole world turns me off, turns me off, but I have to function in it. Most distressing to me is that one can do practically nothing about it because the systematic abuse of the human psyche and spirit it is utterly overwhelming on all fronts. The shameless and relentless suggestions that the human body, and now animals too, might be afflicted with an illness "you may not even know you have" is beyond comprehension of any ethical person. It is as one giant "getting over" on each other and your neigbor. So yes, either time for a world-wide, complete nervous breakdown, or some such person with the power to re-deem humanity with the wave of a hand. And we engage in a pathetic quivel of who is right and who is wrong? The best thing, Paul, is listen to me because I'm always right Charlotte
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Post by pmacg on Feb 8, 2007 9:28:59 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
No we don't have discuss angles. You would have to look at them and investigate them, and I know math is not your thing.
Paul.
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Post by pmacg on Feb 9, 2007 6:41:52 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. I shall post my reason for being a bit cryptic about running for cover: New Article from Stuart Wilde The Circuitous Journey Stuart Wilde February 07th, 2007
When I started the Redeemer’s Club I was surprised how many people came in that had been participants from my Warrior’s Wisdom seminars in Taos back in the early 1990s. There must be a karmic link between us like a family.
It’s been a long circuitous journey, and those of you that can’t join the club for financial or logistical reason please don’t worry there are a couple of inexpensive gigs I’m doing that you can come to if you wish, one in London (April 1st )and one in Las Vegas in May, see info here at NEW.
And I am sorry I couldn’t do the club on the cheap but I have to attend to members and their daily questions every day for a year, and there are up to four free seminars they get and a host of events at a 45% discount, and so I had to price the club at a level where it made commercial sense. So I pitched it at nine euros a day in the first year and four euros a day in the second and third year. The people that joined early got it a bit cheaper than that so I did what I could do given the work involved. The members get access into the Morph but in way you can get it without me, and many of you have a destiny there, I know that for sure.
Strangely looking back at the story it almost all came true in the end, and while a few bits and bobs are still in the becoming, essentially it is all there chapter and verse, and the Camelots will come as well, for we’ve seen them and so if that is your goal hold steady and you’ll get there one way or another.
You can search and search for the hidden door and go through endless pondering and wondering, thinking and confusion but the key to everything is the day you realize you ARE the hidden door. That is why no one’s potential is ever excluded; the only exclusion policy is inside your heart for if you have not processed your shadow and it remains in place then technical difficulties arise. I have said in the past the celestial is protected by two bands of evil that you have to cross to get there; it is like going over two fences while crossing a field. You over one into a ‘no man’s land’ and then a few months later you cross the next barrier and on toward the door. If your shadow is in still repressed and hidden inside as you approach the door that is within you, the ghouls come out in droves to stop you and they will give you a fright and you’ll be forced back.
We are on the cusp of the rebirth of Hitler. It sounds jolly spooky but it is a very good thing, the world needs it, here is why. While the global shadow is hiding it has great power to drive armies and cause death, torture and pain, but once it comes out for all to see and we go into an era of open fascism be it literal or the modern version of it ‘techno-fascism’ with Big Brother over our shoulder controlling every aspect of daily life, then everyone can see what is happening and it is no longer hidden.
Then people have to decide what they believe in, some will join the Police State others will go to love, respect and freedom. It is the process of indicting humanity, yes or no, each chooses. Once those choice have been made and each has proved his or her loyalty to one side or another then the record of that is locked in place in the global soul: With Gaia or against her, with the heart of the people and fairness, or against it, with justice or with repression and so forth.
Almost everyone has already made their choice but some remain on the cusp alternating between the two side, yes-no, maybe. And once the oil goes and the global-ego starts to die most will flip to the dark side. Imagine the first day when the chicken McNuggets fail to arrive in time for the waddling behemoth’s lunch. He or she will become angry and when the TV suddenly doesn’t work and the lights go on and off intermittently and when the family car sits motionless in the driveway, a testament to a bygone era, then you’ll see how most of the soul’s decisions are already made. Those vacillating can watch the postman peddle up the street delivering notices that the pensions have become worthless and the welfare has been cut in half as the government is a bit broke right now and so forth.
Once the darkness comes out of hiding it eventually dies and then the world changes. It is like a civil war that might tear a country apart for a decade or more and eventually the combatants that remain alive have no more heart for the fight and they make peace with each other and the country or the tribe or the family is re-unified. It is symbolic of the light and dark within you that comes back together in the end. While you insist you are all light and sweetness and all things bright and beautiful your shadow remain hidden with in you and you are in great danger, vulnerable to the shadow of others finding you. But once you process that darkness, the wounded child within, then you are safe for your little brother or your little sister becomes your shield and protector but first you have to bring it out and recognize it and love it for the pain that was inflicted upon it and the pain it subsequently inflicted on others. Gradually a peace treaty is struck and the civil war within is resolved.
In the end the dark has to be loved and made whole or it causes big trouble. So individually you have a great chance and then globally the dark has no chance because once it comes out for all to see and we go through all that palaver, the global dark falters, and in the end a great silence descends over us and all you will hear at the very end is the sound of running water.
Watch your visions and dreams for they are real and they will show you the way if you wish for it. And while the winter of the global discontent is made manifests in all its ugliness, go quietly and confront nothing, consume little, hold to beauty and agree to be last. That, as the Taoist say, is the water course way, to take the lowest spot.
The last will be first and when you are offer “first” you must bow and show a genuine reverence and gratitude for the great gift offered you and then you must politely decline and walk away. That is the secret trick to the Holy Grail, when you are offered it you must decline it for all those that accept it do so from their own importance so it is taken from them. Quirky eh?
Go placidly amid the waste and remember it is all true and it will all now come to pass.
© Stuart Wilde 2007 www.stuartwilde.com
Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. © Stuart Wilde 2007 - For more articles and visions please visit www.stuartwilde.comI was sent this as a forward - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 9, 2007 10:25:39 GMT -5
Hi Paul, Very much my thinking all along. "Your ARE the hidden door" = "Know Thyself." The shadow = "The Dweller on the Threshold" of the philosophers. Getting by the shadow, I think depends on how a person is "hardwired" from birth in this life, or has brought with him/her into this existence. The latter I believe strongly because from day One I grew in the thick and dense atmosphere of the Catholic Church, and judging "backwards" from the time when I realized I had a mind of my own, it had no influence on me from day One, because nothing they ever taught me "touched" my soul. It was all pretence on my part, living alone and alongside their system to survive as a child, so this shadowy atmosphere never penetrated my being or my life would be very different. So what is the reason for some people to just follow along while the very "Nature" of others for-bid it, so to speak? Have they been there and done that? I think so. There is this world shadow Stuard Wilde talks about, the religious shadow just mentioned, a cultural shadow, thank God my father overshadowed our family, but the subjective personal shadow is of inborn cosmic proportions, hence the most difficult and scary to overcome. "In the end the shadow has to be made whole or it causes trouble", says Mr. Wilde. I would say a shadow can never be made "whole", it is a shadow, rather, once recognized, it has to be accepted for what it is and "reconciled" with the light to achieve balance. Perhaps this what Mr. Wilde meant. My friend in Egypt put it another way: "When you follow your shadow it will take you to the light." To me this meant you will see and understand all that is shadowy, having done so you reach the light which is always there. "If your shadow is still repressed and hidden inside as you approach the door that is within you, the ghouls come out in droves to stop you and they will give you a fright and you will forced back." Indeed. This brings us to the area of mind altering drugs. Whereas the slow and natural way is save and lasting, taking heaven by storm is at the speed of light and one has to re-collect it by the by. The latter taxes one's sanity to the limit in flying directionless through the shadow world and coming face to face with one's own demons accompanied by collective ones. Again, in my view, survivng this ordeal depends on the pre-disposition of the mind/psyche/soul of the individual, because some hold on, in my case sheer faith that this cup will pass, and nothing but, in the great Good, while others "go on a bummer." Having made it through, you do not "bow and show a genuine reverence and graditude for the great gift offered to you", you can neither "show" nor is anything shown, but you ARE this great gift, and in this timeless state of exaltation exists the unspeakable grand, beautiful, and holy "vibration of humble" and "compassion", gracefully as only Grace itself qualifies bends the knees and tears of joy stream down the face and one prays fervently to be able to stay there forever and ever. And yes, one confronts nothing, consumes little, holds to beauty, and the concept of agreeing to be the last, or asserting to be the first, or "declining the gift and walk away" does not exist. I realize words are inadequate for these things, don't mean to be mean-spirited, but I the "trick" to the secret of the Holy Grail threw me off balance. With Mr. Wilde I will watch my visions and dreams, know that they are real and show me the way back to this "place." The mind altering drug only facilitates and brings to the fore what is hidden in parallel dimensions which are in us. All I know how to keep things safe is to draw a magical circle around me and call the benevolent gods to stand guard Charlotte
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Post by pmacg on Feb 10, 2007 9:02:19 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
Yes the trouble we have with mind altering drugs is mostly cultural, and our personal attachment or aversion to the visual and sound activity viewed. You need to find that place to go that protects the viewer from the onslaught, so if you have fear the trip just gets stronger, and if you have attachment to bliss you lose your grip on dealing with this world, as you would rather be in the dream than here. So yes for most of us the safe route should be taken, as because of our cultural view we have blocked ourselves off from one of the means our ancestors used to transverse the inner dimensions. We are locked into this time/space frequency in which the body exists and cannot see the body as a vehicle constructed to experience this realm, while the mind can travel.
Jung had a lot to say about all this as his investigation of mind allowed him to see that these other dimensions existed, and that by overcoming fear and attachment we could move the ego from the body to encompass the whole of the house that had many rooms. His dream of being in the basement and being held their by his own cultural world view was very interesting - he started to dig up a skeleton (must be a reference to the past or the dead) and then ventured forth into many of the over rooms on the floors above. Jung pointed out that both sides or all the rooms were interlinked, and we are therefore falling pray to a division that produces actions of separation, and if we continue with these actions we are lost.
It is only faith in the creative wholeness of your 'being' that allows one to free fall down the tunnel and to come out the other end undamaged, as then the shadows cannot touch you, as it is your own 'being' that has created them. This is a perception of divinity, and to see divinity in all things gives one respect for the whole creative process, dark or light side, and therefore attains union between them. This was the tenet of the Bardo Thodol, in which the blood thirsty ghoul or demon is the Buddha's wife (like the head with two faces), and again Jung did the forward for Evens-Wentz's translation.
I expect you have been watching events on the other side - Paul.
PS. I see this site is locked down again, if you wish to tell me anything about what's happening just mail me.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 10, 2007 10:38:28 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. Yes the trouble we have with mind altering drugs is mostly cultural, and our personal attachment or aversion to the visual and sound activity viewed. You need to find that place to go that protects the viewer from the onslaught, so if you have fear the trip just gets stronger, Lol it gets to be your worst nightmare but only until you totally surrender. and if you have attachment to bliss you lose your grip on dealing with this world, as you would rather be in the dream than here. Yes, I would rather be, but this world doesn't let me, I have to function in it. So yes for most of us the safe route should be taken, as because of our cultural view we have blocked ourselves off from one of the means our ancestors used to transverse the inner dimensions. We are locked into this time/space frequency in which the body exists and cannot see the body as a vehicle constructed to experience this realm, while the mind can travel. Indeed. Jung had a lot to say about all this as his investigation of mind allowed him to see that these other dimensions existed, and that by overcoming fear and attachment we could move the ego from the body to encompass the whole of the house that had many rooms. His dream of being in the basement and being held their by his own cultural world view was very interesting - he started to dig up a skeleton (must be a reference to the past or the dead) and then ventured forth into many of the over rooms on the floors above. Jung pointed out that both sides or all the rooms were interlinked, and we are therefore falling pray to a division that produces actions of separation, and if we continue with these actions we are lost. Yes, I know about the "bums", as Dr. Hoeller calls them, in the basement. It is only faith in the creative wholeness of your 'being' that allows one to free fall down the tunnel and to come out the other end undamaged, It is precisely what got me through. as then the shadows cannot touch you, as it is your own 'being' that has created them. This is a perception of divinity, and to see divinity in all things gives one respect for the whole creative process, dark or light side, and therefore attains union between them. This was the tenet of the Bardo Thodol, in which the blood thirsty ghoul or demon is the Buddha's wife (like the head with two faces), and again Jung did the forward for Evens-Wentz's translation. Huh, "blood thirsty ghoul" being the feminine sounds so ghoulish, but I knw what you mean. I expect you have been watching events on the other side - Paul. I do as time permits, some good minds over there. PS. I see this site is locked down again, if you wish to tell me anything about what's happening just mail me. This site is working, maybe you mean the GHMB. I haven't yet printed out you pages for some "feed-back." Have a pleasant evening and a high dream. Charlotte
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Post by pmacg on Feb 10, 2007 11:57:39 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. I did mean this site - keeps saying 'Error, must login'. Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 11, 2007 8:10:19 GMT -5
Because of some "unwanted guests", Don restricted access so everybody has to log in. About this having to face one's own enemies, the diseased of the AE also had to go this journey through the underworld in the "Hall of Twin Thruths" accompanied by the feminine, facing the 42 assessors before the heart was weighed, and if in balance was taken by Horus to the shrine of his father Osiris. The same transfomational story. Hi Paul
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Post by pmacg on Feb 11, 2007 12:07:07 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. Yes I mention it in the book, as same theme of being without blame or duplicity exists in Chinese texts as well. The created form (the female aspect that gives birth) is the feather that flutters down to and fro to death, in that this obeys the law of creation. Those who try and rise in position are subject to the hunt of the king. If they don't do it for the correct reasons of mutual benefit for all of creation 'Bang'. Have you seen Clesson H Harvey's 'The Pyramid Texts': ww.pyramidtexts.com - article 1 to 6, so just add say article6.htm to view that particular article. There is a mediation practice (SAH) attached to it, which C H wrote a book on. Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Feb 12, 2007 8:36:31 GMT -5
Roses Roses, Paul, as Gurdjieff would say, Mr. Harvey had, and still has me smiling, thanks much for this. The world is fortunate to have such translations of the Pyramid Texts.
Egyptology no looke to deep into these sublime writings, no matter, the light is on. Mr. Harvey's interpretation of the Texts and Atlantis agree with the "Secret Doctrine", which always made sense to me, and this morning the bell is ringing a bit louder.
All one really has to do is read what the AE themselves say, not where so and so puts this and the other, and what it associates with, to be transported into their world, and with the help of the few, learn.
Best speed to Atlantis
Charlotte
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