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Post by Charlotte on Jul 6, 2004 10:11:00 GMT -5
My theories conserning both these rulers, and the Egyptians in general, may be outlandish to "scientific Egyptology", but they are affirmed by Isha de Lubicz, the scholarly lady looking at things above and below, therefore much more reliable as a quelle. In HER-BAK The Living Face of Ancient Egypt "Her-Bak obtained as a favor permission to conduct his fellow-desciples to the Summit", it being the pyramid shaped mountain at Thebes, and speaks to them of Mersegert, the "goddess of silence." And "when they had listened to Her-Bak, everyone went down the desert path, sealing the memory in his heart." Conserning the "symbolism" of the temple of the mysterious Queen Hatshepsut no explanation was forthcoming from the "Old Man". Silence as to Akhenaton and Hatshepsut is implied. The "Memphians" were wondering "whether anything of that Pharaoh's (Akhenaton) work was still exant hereabouts; but were afraid (to ask) lest it might be indiscreet to mention the mysterious dissidence of that reign." It was not for Her-Bak to say, but "he who has the authority", the sage, told the visitors "we have no sacrilegious dissidence!" He adds: "You have seen the West of Thebes; engrave this vision upon your hearts and ask Mersegert to reveal to your heart her secret." The next morning they greeted "the Master of the World" the Aton, who comes to gild all earths and to spread life in profusion." Earths. rather than just one. The sage said: "Hear and understand before you allow yourselves to feel shocked, for behold, it is well for mankind to listen. I summon you to this place to assemble for the rising of Aton on the very spot where was once a temple erected by Akhenaton and by him named 'The horizon of Aton in the pillar of the South." It would mean that the sun rises, or all worlds within our horizon are lighted "in the pillar of the South", which pillar, says Madam de Lubicz "ought to be located in the region of Thebes", where lies the answer she says elsewher, in "Upper Egypt", in this case our higher nature, which entails getting past the ferocious winged Sphinx guarding the High Way by solving her riddle, the riddle we are, and the riddle of the human state, the "peculiar psyche" of us three-brained beings of Gurdjieff. The sages of Egypt did what they did for posterity, not invented all sorts of "cults" and built all sorts of temples to have a system and place to worship their inventions etc., etc. Lady Isha has more interesting things to say about these two rulers. Atonment and "the pillar of the South." Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 7, 2004 9:58:21 GMT -5
Isha de Lubicz has the sage say:
"He (Akhenaton) built it (the temple which he called "The horizon of Aton in the pillar of the South") outside the wall enclosing the temple of Amun as befitted the emblem of a phase 'outside the normal law of Amun'. No more than other Pharaohs was he free to act according to personal will: he had to submit to the law of his time."
Intimating that the Egyptians, instructed by god-men, had and followed a grand plan for thousands of years, and "bestowed a second youth upon itself with the Greeks", writes Bulwer Lytton. The quote may not be verbatim, but the idea is correct. I followed this progression some years ago, but not in the depth I could with the yet scanty understanding I have now.
"As a rule," says the sage, "this law is not communicated to the "outer Temple. However, I will show you one of its aspects. Nature has produced two sexes, one male to beget, the other femal to gestate; such is the normal course of organized life.
"But in the series of functional manifestations of a genetic cycle exceptions are found, and these are symbolically expressed in the legend of the scarabæus and the vulture, of the scarabæus who, without female, has his seed conceived and gestated in his ball; and of the vulture who conceives without male from the north wind.
"Now it so happened in the succession of our Periods, that the period immediately preceding ours personified this exception in its two aspects: a masculine queen, Hatshepsut, and a feminine king, Akhenaton. Their temples stand facing each other: one on the mountain to the west of Amun, receiving there the rays of the morning, the other to the east of Amun, receiving there the evening rays on low ground.
"Both had to play their part as to accidents necessary in the natural Osirian lineage; both had to disappear when this role was accomplished, so that obedience to Amun's law under his prper name Amun-Ra should be restored. However, each of them left the necessary evidence of the exeptional 'phase' he or she had to represent.
"For Hatshepsut, her Sage--Senen-Mut--reveals one aspect of the mystery of her reign on her statues, name, titles, in the development of her functions and in a special symbol which he vaunts that he invented.
"Is this symbol not merely a pun on the name Hatshepsut?" asked the sceptical Amenatu.
"Don't you know," asked the Sage, "that important secrets must be hidden under an apparently trivial aspect? Now Senen-Mut attracts the attention of the seeker by saying explicitly that this symbol 'has not been found since the Ancestors', by which remark he wants to indicate that it corresponds to the particular case of the 'moment'.
"I do not want at this moment to develope the whole meaning of this symbol, but I may tell you this much, that this sage confirms in it the androgyny symbolized by the Queen Hatshepsut who, for the period of her reign, takes upon herself the role and aspect of masculinity, whereas name and role of Sene-Mut, by a curious crossing, gives this sage--although he was a man--a feminine aspect in his role as a foster-father of the royal maid."
The key-word to this "symbol" which "has not been found since the Ancestors" is "androgyny", which brings us to the organ Kundabuffer the Ancestors possessed, which Beelzebub calls attention to so many times. And the Egyptians put it in writing, that since the Ancestors, many generations had not celebrated the Sed-Festival rites, but his majesty Amenhotep, son of Amun, did so "in accordance with the ancient writings."
So who wrote down the ancient writings for the ancient Egyptians? Who were their Ancestors "guiding the civilizations, the learning, and the intelligence of mankind", but the Third androgynous Race, of which the ancient Egyptians were the last and most perfect representation. On the surface the symbol is the cobra adorning their crowns, and in all this can also be found the origin of the Serpent as a symbol of wisdom.
So conventional Egyptology and archaeology, scientific or otherwise, is all wrong, right? But for the anathemized writer, whoever he is, and his Gospel, the result of studying "the peculiar psyche of the contemporary three-brained beings of this planet" and some more things, everything came up Roses.
Can't help but love the highly esteemed Mullah Nassr Eddin, and Uncle Sam who wants everybody.
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 8, 2004 10:42:43 GMT -5
Having observed the self-sufficient and self-perpetuing ways of the scarab in Nature, the Egyptians used it as a symbol of transformation. Holding in mind that the Egyptians planned easily up to our time, and beyond, as a Sage, aware himself, can see the evolutionar process in the consciousness of humanity, Isha de Lubicz has the Sage explain "the relation between the scarabæus and Akenaton."
In this case the transformation from one age to the next, not the transformation from the natural to the spiritual man, which age is oncoming and which we can see signs of now.
"The scarabæus conceals his ball in the earth until the time comes for the seed to be hatched; then he brings it out into the light and plunges it into the water, where his progeny will be born. And in exactly the same way the preparation for the moment of Aton is done in darkness; and when the time of Amun-Ra shall have been completed and accomplished, then the Solar fruit of his Spirit will come forth from the darkness under the sign of a new star, as a divine fish in the ocean of the sky. (Pisces)
The movements of the sky govern the future of mankind; our cult and history are the image thereof.
The second period of this history had the character of the Amun cult in its occidental and lunar aspect. Its third period (the beginning of the eighteenth dynasty) which was to correspond with the beginning of the royal Solar Principle--started with a last affirmation of the Lunar Principle, symbolised in the Pharaoh Iahmes--Ah-mes--(born of the Moon), conquerer of the Hyksos, then by the first Amenhotep (Amenophis I) who began the hotep (or the end of the accomplishment) of Lunar Amun, whose passing into the Solar Amun was announced by the transformation of the fourth Amen-hotep wa-n-Ra (first of Ra) into Akh-n-Aton wa-n-Ra. Amenophis IV, who became Akhenaton.)"
Precise and learnable. Madam de Lubicz then says that a transition "is always marked by an intervention of a spiritual nature, which remains a mystery: or the cerebral intelligence or intellect, being comprehensible only to the spiritual intelligence, the understanding of the heart." Laughable to the "scientifically elightened."
I can't get into everything the learned Lady writes, but will add a few important passages concerning Akhenaton and Hatshepsut.
"It must be noted that the transition of one 'nature' into another is carried out through the mediation of a mixed principle, so to speak androgynous, as is the case with the characters Hatshepsut and Akhenaton."
There is a distinction to be made between "androgynous" and "hermaphrodite", the former represents the "the sexual potentualities in the soul, a state natural to the divine man", the latter "is to be limited strictly to the phenomenon of incomplete sexual determination in the physical body." (M.P. Hall)
"The history of these two transitions aims to convay a twofold teaching: "The evolutionof human consciousness through experiencing two natures--female and male--in order to achieve the whole;
"And the revelation of the character of the most mysterious 'moments' in the genesis of mankind, through symbolic episodes in the history of the Pharaohs.
"This history is placed in Time at each moment where it corresponds to an an analogues passage in the development of some genesis, be it an individual, a nation, or the whole of mankind."
It is the costum of the Egyptians to "not write any theoretical treatises on the subject, but teach it through the names of our kings and of the personage entering upon the scene with each king, or through symbols and riddles, such as those of the scarabæus and Senen-Mut's vulture."
The symbol of Senen-Mut, the vulture with right wing outstreched and left wing down, the eye of Horus partially imposed on it, "had not been found since the ancestors", so here are the ancestors again.
Tut-ankh-Amun first lived "at Armana under his name of Tut-ankh-Aton, thus forging a link between the periods of Aton and Amun-Ra."
The Armana period is unsolvable only to those who like to puzzle over it endlessly.
Concerning the extremely unattractive depiction of Akhenaton, the Lady has the Sage say:
"It may be found that the theme of a Period demands a change in expression; then we obey that necessity, as was done for the 'moment of Akhenaton'. Look at this statue. The anomaly--or perversion--which it represents in indicated in the wilful exaggeration of effeminate fors: waist, hips, and belly are stressed, sometimes to the extent of becoming grotesque."
This is "not at all arbritrary" says the Sage; "they are the correct symbols for that 'phase'. The moral theme is first of all inversion, even the composition of the decorative designs is inverted: you will find birds near the ground, and plants near the tops of the walls; secondly, there is the flaccidity and lasciviousness, and finally there is the characteristic fact that all scenes from that period are preoccupied with purely human affairs."
Which is interpreted by ancient Egyptology as Akhenaton being a gentle and happy family man, wanting to be depicted "normal" as he was, but possibly having married one or more of his daughters, and possibly also having a homosexual relationship with his brother etc. garbage. They foist all sorts of incestual relationships on the royal houses to keep the royal blood in line lol, ignoring or "throwing the books of the de Lubicz' out the window." Their great loss.
"The Era of which Akhenaton was a very early forerunner will be the era of man, when human emotions will predominate. That is why his pictorial annunciation abandons, for this period, the hieratic rigidity and expresses--in a sensual, almost bestial way--the human susceptibility to emotion which in the foreshadowed future Time will have to take a loftier form."
The "Memphians" marveled at the words of the Sage and thought that such teachings "had never been given since the ancient Times!" Again, who, then, thaught in "ancient Times", that is, ancient to the Egytptians, their ancestors?
The Sage tells the "Memphians" that these things have always been thaught to the few in the sanctuary of the temple, but that gradually more is revealed to the many as humanity is maturing.
Charlotte
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Post by BERNHARD on Aug 3, 2004 10:41:30 GMT -5
Dear Charlotte, this interesting "lady ISHA" naturally takes some advantage of her husband R. A. , who published such impressioning books as the TEMPLE of MAN and TEMPLES OF KARNAK. the couple lived for several years in egypt ( Luxor ) --- twenty years ? -- . and ISHA's daughter (!) LUCIE LAMY ( was R. A. the father of Lucie ?) is still envolved since some years in this work as well ! regarding the initiation rites i remember some publications by the grand old lady of the french egyptology, Mme Christiane DE ROCHES-NOBLECOURT ( now full in her "Neunziger" ), who used the findings in tut's tomb (KV62) to describe some of the still mysterious initiation rites of a young pharaoh in the dark and hidden chambers of the (amun?)-temple(s)... or another temple.. ! one of these secred rites referred to god Osiris. details of such secret initiation rites naturally have been strictly forbidden to be depicted/represented on public or official places or walls or subjects. another secret rite brings an important role to the the kings wife (widow). she acts as the symbolic mother to give rebirth to the young king. involved hereby is goddess hathor. and so on .... some of these mystic interpretations are very problematic, and certainly understood and interpreted in different ways in the world egyptology ! --- so far now, and ciao: Bernie
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