The White Desert

[Charlotte]

Hi All,

In the current "Horus" magazine of EgyptAir is an article by Rob Böck, entitled "Egypt's White Desert Wonderland."

About 530 kilometers from Cairo, in the heart of the 5.800 square Western desert, between Bahariya and Farafra, is a lunar landscape like area of soft, powdery sand, called the White Desert. Mr. Böck states that the air is of the purest quality, absent are the usual sounds, only the wind can be heard "like timeless whispering music blowing among the rocks."


The landscape is "dotted with huge, pure white rocks of in strange, outlandish shapes of weird, haunting beauty." They vary in hight from one to twenty meters, some more. The rocks feel chalky and have soft and hard spots. "The rocks were once part of coral reefs when the Farafra Depression was covered by a warm sea some 40 million years ago." The writer of the article found "a number of fossilised shells and a calcified tooth of a shark in the white sand. There are also thousands of pieces of black iron pyrite and marcasite, in a variety of shapes, including starbursts and broken twigs", as well as "small quartz crystals, originating from the veins between the layers of chalk, are scattered on the white desert floor."

At sunrise "the rocks of the White Desert take on a magnificent colour, the sky on the opposite turned purple", and as the sun rose rapidly "the colours of the rocks changed from pink to white. The sky turned from Purple to lilac, then back to its usual, azure blue."

"I felt small and vulnerable in the enormity of time and distance in the desert. All my wordly thoughts evaporated for a while and were replaced by awesome wonder and respect for the forces of nature. Surprisingly, the humbling effect the desert had on me made me feel stronger. I felt rejuvenated, my mind clearer and opened, my body strengthened and refreshed."

I feel the same every time when spending a couple hours high upon the Giza Plateau. No tourists are there, only an occasional man walkes silently by, alone, or with a donkey. Neither the person nor I acknowledge each other outwardly, but we both know why we're there.

I asked Don to post two pictures of the pocks. Interesting is what I would call "the smiling Sphinx" also facing the sunrise, with a distinct face on the left side, whereas the Sphinx at Giza is thought to have had a face on the right side, the remnants of it still visible, as Don described.

"The timeless and spectacular geological 'art gallery' of Egypt."

[Davell]

Charlotte,

wow, looks amazing. The bit about the shells is interesting cause Herodotus famously noted that there were shells in the rock of the desert and he was one of the first to reckon that the areas had once been seas.

DaveL.

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte

I agree with DaveL, the pictures are awesome and it must be a spectacular site at sunrise or sundown. However you posted this in your last post as well:

... I asked Don to post two pictures of the pocks. Interesting is what I would call "the smiling Sphinx" also facing the sunrise, with a distinct face on the left side, whereas the Sphinx at Giza is thought to have had a face on the right side, the remnants of it still visible, as Don described.

You are the first person who has commented on my postings regarding what appears to me to be obvious that the alleged head dress on the right side [as we face The Sphinx] may in reality be the face of a lion in the midst of a roar. Are there any others in Egypt who share this belief ?

Cheers
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Wow, I just got another star

Hi Davell,

The White Desert would be a great travel destination, no? When I win the Lotto I'll buy everyone a ticket (and Don a super computer) and we can meet there for a happy week or so. I'll bring $9.999 cash as permitted by law, the rest we can charge on credit cards. Then we could go and spend a week in Siwa, and 6 more month traveling all over Egypt, and up to the Ethiopian Highlands looking for the origin of the Nile

"The bit about the shells is interesting cause Herodotus famously noted that there were shells in the rock of the desert and he was one of the first to reckon that the areas had once been seas."

I'm not sure if he meant the White Desert, did he mention white sand and weird shapes, you know how he talks round about things? I rather think that he meant the seashells strewn all over the Giza Plateau, and seashells in the rocks in the ruins of the temples there. I have some so old that they have "a dash of crystal" which the rockbiter in "The Never Ending Story" loves. Of course, that would make the Pyramids much older than believed, "when the waves dashed in helpless fury against the base of the Pyramids." I'm with the Champ here.

The Egyptian priests also told Herodotus that they had been keeping time for as long that the sund has set twice where it now rises, and rose twice where it now sets. Did those before them, "the divine Dynasties" record the shift of the poles?

In the first picture, I see from right to left a puppy looking at us, a sheep, clearly the Sphinx, a beautiful double crown, a huge, sort of frozen in time dwarf in profile, because of the droopy cap all dwarfs wear, though some caps are molded in ceramic, now in plastic, in the exact shape of the "White Crown of divine form" of Upper Egypt. Molded to its left side, and looking left, is the head of another Sphinx in profile, with head dress and a "false beard." The latter is commenly known as the symbol or sign of Pharaoh, though philosophers say that it signifies "acquired wisdom", which makes sense to me.

Actually, that Sphinx' head has two beards, one directly from under the chin in the form of a triangle, and a smaller one attached to its left cheek, the cheeky wisdom of the AE and Herodotus

Then there is the head of a crocodile on the ground, mouth open but no teeth. The next stone is just a stonehead with a flat back and a face in profile looking to the right. So much for my fancying-is that a word?


Don,

Thanks for posting the pictures. Regarding what appears to be the face of a lion in the midst of a roar, instead of what's left left of the head dress of the Sphinx at Giza, I think somebody mentioned this, and showed a picture iirk on the GH board some time ago. Nobody in Egypt has ever mentioned anything about it to me, but then I never asked. Next time I'll take a good look at it.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte ..

Yes a super computer ! With bio-neural circuitry of course ! Now that would be cool !

You also wrote:

... I think somebody mentioned this, and showed a picture iirk on the GH board some time ago.

That would have been moi !

Cheers in Love and Light ;D
Donnie

[DaveL]

Hi folks,

RE your face in the sphinx Don, I read it but to be honest, I couldn't make up my mind what to think....

Same goes for the very odd gods from Tanis!...

Charlotte, you obviously know Herodotus better than I do. RE the sun setting and rising, I wonder if that has something to do with Precession, the 25,000 year cycle of the earth....In a way the sun would set in the other side of the sky, not actually, but compared to the position of the stars in the sky....

That would make 50,000 years....

I can feel a book coming on:)

DaveL.

[Charlotte]

Hi DaveL,

The blunder of "pole reversal" I made in the post came to me during work, so I came to correct it, but you beat me to it. The Champ thinks that the Pyramids at Giza are 35.000, maybe more years. I have read that they are around 70.000. They had lots of onion, garlic, radishes, and beer at the time I have to check up on it.

When you read Herodotus, don't you have the feeling sometimes that he is pulling our leg, putting in a blinder on purpose?

Thanks

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

Hi Don,

I thought I saw a really old picture of the Sphinx with the face still intact on GH.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte ...

Try this link: Sphinx Discussion at Graham's

or this one ....

The History of The Sphinx in Pictures

Cheers In Love and The Light
Donnie

[Charlotte]

Donnie? LOL is that even smaller than little Don? You wouldn't be shrinking on me, would you?

I looked at the pictures and read the replies. A crown on top of the flat head sounds reasonable, the "braided royal ritual beard" is probably a symbolic expression of the triad Amun-Ra, Harmakes, and Ptah, the triune creator of Christianity. To me the "face" on the right side looks like is what is left of the head cloth, unless those priests who commissioned the Sphinx to be carved had a female lion face attached to its right side, as it is androgynous. Because the Sphinx has a female lion body and a masculine human head already, I find this hard to believe.

My personal observation.

When I stood looking at the Sphinx for the first time, I could not tell whether its face was masculine or feminine. Its eyes are open at day time, but at night time they appear to be closed, the face beautiful and serene and feminine.

Some present day Egyptians call it their grandfather.

Charlotte

[Davell]

Charlotte,

That's funny what you said about the Sphinx, my energetic Cairo taxi driver introduced me to 'Everyone's Grandfather', the Great Sphinx.

And it is very impressive as a symbol.

I'm hoping to go back next year, if the bank will let me!

DaveL.

[Charlotte]

Hi DaveL,

Could the expression "everyone's grandfather" have something to do with its age, also older than we think, some say, or what it represents? The first time I gazed upon its incredible face, I "knew" its secret holds all secrets. How, I don't know.

I read in some book: "When man finds out what makes the stars move, the Sphinx will brake up into laughter and life on earth will come to nought."

I found this very interesting because I believe that the riddle of the Sphinx is the riddle we are to ourselves and each other, that the stars and our mind move together, depending, that we respond to the stars and they to us, and that a deep study of occult anatomy, quantum physics, and help from initiates, are the way to find out.

Charlotte

[James]

Hello all,

Everyone thinks the Sphinx aligns east - it doesn't. It's body lies parallel to (i.e., coincident with) an ancient equator that ran through Easter Island, the Nascan figures, Giza (going at an angle of 5 degrees north of east), and the Indus Valley in old India. Just the reconstructed face has been turned east, as clearly seen in the following photo.
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there have been extensive reconstruction efforts to hide this (as seen in this next photo). The reconstruction has nearly (but not quite) hidden the misalignment.
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[Don Barone]

Hi Jim ...

Any significance to the 5 degree offset ?

Until The Light becomes The Fire
Don Barone

[BERNHARD]

Dear JIMBOW -- nice to meet YOU here ! --- yes, this shifted axis with a derivation-angle of some degrees is of interest. there must be some reason for it. for the moment i have not the time to study these "ancient equator" arguments, matching this axis in prolongation, but i am sure, Don will check this by the time. due to his GIZA-related work ( and other subjects: POUSSIN / Rennes-le-Chateau etc.. ) in the last years, he is really "fit" for more research on this topic. what i can offer for the moment, is this: we know, that the sphinx was undergoing some restaurations or one/more reconstructions or even a redesign in ancient times. the head was modified, and it is now smaller. the head-axis does not seem to totally match with the body's axis: an effect caused by those activties ? hmm, is the derivation of the heads axis an hint to the possibility of TWO sphinx-statues: in ancient times standing like two guardians at the entrance of a big entrance way or avenue ! later, one sphinx became destroyed or deleted, of what reason ever, and then the remaing single (!) sphinx was redesigned and re-orientated (!) according to a new architectural or conceptual guideline !?? was this re-orientation made in the NK-era, as one corresponding step in relation with the building of new Sphinx-temple !?? look here at:

www.touregypt.net/featurestories/sphinx3.htm -- and --
members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx5.html --

ok, concerning this TWO-SPHINX/SECOND-SPHINX theory, and several years ago at the GUARDIANS forum, i pointed to :

www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/7808/secondsphinx-Complete.html ---

actually, while discussing the Sphinx, i naturally thought of Dr. Schoch and his well known studies in this context, and checked some news ! interestingly he is back from his visit to the so called Bosnian Pyramids ( located some ten km from bosnian Sarajevo ) , working on a (preliminary) report on his activities there, thoughts and theories also. look at:
www.robertschoch.net/ ---- Hmm, finally, while having a look on Schoch's fine website, i stumbled on this new SPHINX-Face-article at:

www.robertschoch.net/Egyptian%20Mummy%20Women%20Schoch%20Dowell%20CT.htm -----

be sure to copy/cut&paste whole URL-string before entering !!
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ok, so far for today !! best wishes from bavaria: Bernie
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[James]

Hello Don & Bernie,

Yes! There is significance to the 5 degree misalignment, and interestingly, Jim Alison discovered the same relationship independent of my discovery.

Jim Alison's home page

Jim Alison's Nasca - Giza - Alaska triangle

I published the same (Nasca - Giza - Alaska, relationship) - calling it the Terrestrial Triangle in my book The Gods in 1998.

The Triangle goes from Nasca to Giza thence to (60 N : 138 W) and back to Nasca, and has the same base angles as the Great Pyramid.

The base line of the Terrestrial Triangle lays on an old equatorial line that passes through Giza at an angle of 5 degrees north of east such that if you draw a meridian perpendicular from the body of the Sphinx, that meridian will go directly to (60 N : 138 W).

The short of it is that the Sphinx was built on an ancient equator when the North Pole was at (60 N : 138 W).
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Jimbow

[BERNHARD]

DEAR JIMBOW and DON, -- hey JIM: really great to have an "old" and well experienced NASA-crack here: it's a pleasure, and reminds me also to the fantastic days of mercury-gemini-apollo-and shuttle projects , while sitting in front of the tv, or reading lot of "space"-books, last not leats not forgetting the russians ! ( but i remember also the day of Apollo-1 disaster with Grissom/White/Chaffey ! -- and the esp. the first shuttle disaster: uuhh - while wathching the staert-phase: 73.15 sec. later: bumm -- so cruel ! what a shock also for the parents and families -- ) ---- ok, today i am very busy, still on work, end of month/beginning of new month: special complex additional computer-based activities to be done !! -- uughhh -- plose-shifts had been for several times. newest story or theory discusses a probable poleshift or a better: a 50 degree movement of the globe itselfm caused by a giant vulcano located under the today arktis ( north-pole area ). it happened around 800 mio years ago !! ( according to Adam Maloof ( Princeton University ) and his collegues , published in "Geological Society of America Bulletin" ! --- sorry, but i have to go back to work !! I WISH EVERYBODY here a NICE WEEKEND !! -- best regards from bavaria: Bernie