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Post by Charlotte on Jan 1, 2007 10:05:30 GMT -5
I don't want to talk about it, but just say, whether it's true or not, I sense an eerie emotion permiating the atmosphere of the world. Something doesn't "feel" right.
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 1, 2007 11:25:34 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte ...
The Hanging was at the very best Medieaval and at the worst a murderous barbaric act ... that is of course if it was real. I have 'sensed" for a couple of years now that the world is sliding out of control into an abyss. Be it the melting ice sheets, atmospherioc pollution, the genocide of one of a kind animals in The Amazon due to burning and of course the total out of control political situation over the entire Earth. We have lost our way for sure.
What is going to get us back on track ? Well in The Bible "God" comes to the rescue ... but what if ... there is ... NO "God" ?
December 21st, 2012 MUST come.
In My Own Light
Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 2, 2007 9:52:12 GMT -5
I read that the Mayan calendar began 3114 BC, dates vary slightly. Perhaps this is the "Fourth World - World Complete" of the Hopi. It is the last world of their Creation Myths, with three "universes" yet to come, indicating almost unthinkable ages, these seven universes spanning from the creation of the current phenomenal universe and mankind and our state of awareness, to the "World Complete" in which we live, the fourth universe, as we are said to live in four dimensions, interpenetrading the oncoming fifth, as is observable. This is the way I explain it to myself. Taking for granted that the age of the cougar began in 3114 BC, to our 2007 AD, this time span constitutes a major Phoenix cycle of 5000 years (give a century and 21 days), as opposed by a minor of 500 years. So this works as far as the time-cycles are concerned. All these time-cycles "blend" into, or are "absorbed" by "eternal time". Of course, there is no time in eternity, but we have to be able to think and talk about things abstract somehow. The Hopi say a thing interesting about this "Fourth World" we live in. It's "guardian" and "caretaker" is "the handsome Masaw." "The people recognized Masaw. He had been appointed head caretaker of the Third World, but, becoming a little self-important, he had lost his humility before the creator. Being a spirit, he could not die, so Taiowa (the Creator) took his appoinment away from him and made him the deity of death and the underworld. This job Below was not as pleasant as the one Above. Then when the Third World was destroyed, Taiowa decided to give him another chance, as he had the people., and appointed him to guard and protect this Fourth World as its caretaker." It is easy to make a correlation between "the handsome Masaw" and Lucifer, said by some to be the savior or "Massaia", "light-bearer" and light-bringer" of mankind, as he told Eve in the "Garden of Eden" time, the "Third World" that if she eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evel, she shall never die, she being the mother of mankind, so to speak. The second correlation is that Masaw or Lucifer had become "a little self-important" and "lost his humility before the Creator", as in "from pride fell Lucifer and the angels which followed him." We are them or we wouldn't be here in the "underworld" and subject to death. Masaw and his angels, our "ancestors", so to speak, are "spirits" and cannot die. Much later we were clothed with skin etc. The "job here Below was not as pleasant as the one Above, when Lucifer and his followers were yet "pure spirits" before Masaw wanted to be more powerful than his Creator and was "thrown out of heaven." As per the axiom "what is true in the greater is tru in the lesser", when our kids get too unruly we throw them out. But the Father Creator, being compassionate, as are most earthly fathers, gave Lucifer another chance, and the prodigal son came home. According to Fern, this happened in Noah's Ark, wherin humanity was reduced to a seed, or 4 seed-lives, where the 9th member or number was born, "8 went in and 9 came out", and this effulgent son was the progenitor of the Great Egyptian Civilization: "The Prince of Darkness." His "twin brother" being the Archangel Michael, and they made friends again in the ark of time. Like Gurdjieff's Beelzebub, or the Egyptian Seth, the Hopi too, see Lucifer or "Masaw - respected by the people", the "spirit" of opposition and resistance, also doubt, as a somewhat benevolent character, not like the conventional Christian devil. God will come and save the world, but what if there is no God? The problem is that we made God an old man residing somewhere in space, and his "son" a younger man dying for the sins of the wicked etc. In early Christianity, no images were allowed, as it is with the Muslims to this day. I like the name Allah because it puts into the mind All-ah, a wondrous "ahh the All", in a sense the German "Weltall"=Allworld. I asked my Muslim friend once "who is Allah?" He said: "What do you mean who is Allah? He is everything." This could be understood in the story everybody known by now, of a very religious man wading up to his neck in water, a small ship comes by and offers to rescue him, but he says "no thanks, God will save me." A bigger ship comes by and offers to rescue him, again he says no thanks, God will rescue me." A third, maybe a yacht  comes by and invites the man to come on bord, but he replies in the same manner, and drowns. So three times God offers to save him but he did not recognize the mysterious way Allah works, all the time and everywhere, being everything, or an "intelligent life force" harmonizing events, dismissed as mere coincidences. The whole of the universe works this way on all levels, everything a reaction to a reaction beginning with the original action. Maybe the God that will save us in the end is the Good in us, hearing "the still, small voice of a later prophet" whose time has come. Who else is there but us, and we individually and collectively, within, and together with the universe, are subject to reaping what we sow, just like in the fields. All things return to their origin, on all levels. So what does an old man in the sky have to do with any of this? God is unknowable. That's what I think, so far. Charlotte |
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Post by julia on Jan 2, 2007 20:26:53 GMT -5
Charlotte, I'm really enjoying this post of yours Allah may be God in Arabic, but the name is not restricted to that language. In Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke, it's Alaha. We are all more interconnected than we think. Just like you say; The whole of the universe works this way on all levels, everything a reaction to a reaction beginning with the original action. Agreed, if one wants the world to change, one needs to start with oneself Best wishes, Julia |
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 3, 2007 9:10:05 GMT -5
Hi Julia and All, First, I should say that the oncoming 5th age is interpenetrading the 4th, not vis-a-vis as in my post. A Native American teacher drew this as 2 circles, sort of 8 on its side. The one on the right, the new, gradually moving into the one on the left, the old, like the moon "eats" up the sun. He left the drawing at the visica piscis shape. When I wrote about Allah I remembered that Mark Harlem mentioned that he called God "Alaha", but not sure if there was an additional letter. Language is so telling of the interconnectedness of All, but different religions want God on their side and thereby fracture the All. I think in the 5th world, there will be One religion "Spirituality", and in the 7th we will be of One mind again. Many times the Bible and Koran teach the exact same thing, but both are interpreted by the dead letter of the word, and both, zealous Christians and Muslims believe strictly by the dead letter. The cause of much misery of humanity, and in terms of "accepted history", much confusion. What else can that "still, small voice of a later prophet", and the last, be, but our own inner prophet/teacher, who in fact teaches all the time: the first and intuitive answer flashing on the mind from memory is the correct one, and we advise each other: trust your first instinct. As the last prophet/teacher he is "Aha, now I understand", and that understanding is then intergraded in our field of references. "We don't learn who we are but re-member who we are." Like the "bone-setting" in algebra. As to God or the good in us, said Manly Palmer Hall in one of his lectures: "It is not an old man in the sky with a stick waiting to punish us for wrong-doing, it is our own intergrity correcting our ways" by hitting us over the head, and the more we transgress the harder the blows, until we finally had enough and "do the right thing", a phrase much used recently in courts, and in politics, yeah the latter are forced to come around, the people the world over are are getting more restless by the day. I still think the whole "system", and all the outworn and outlived institutions will have to collapse utterly for a new beginning to be grounded in the higher consciousness floating about the world. "if one wants to change the world, one needs to start with oneself", the wisdom of the Prophet Mohamed: "Improve yourself today and everything around you will improve tomorrow", the good old German "sweep clean your own's house door before you talk about others, and who is there to throw the first stone? I do many times, and Don throws bolders, huh let me add quickly: Don I love you , and in campaigns running for public office, our politicians throw whole Towers of Babel, like those builders, they have "bricks for stones and slime for mortar." Sorry, could't help it Lastly, a friend stoped by last evening and expressed the same exact sentiments I had about the hanging: he experienced an ominous feeling, he was at a loss of words and his countinance changed to very uncomfortable. But in this thread alone we turned this incident toward the good and hopeful. Prosit again to 2007 with a glass half full. Charlotte |
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Post by pmacg on Jan 3, 2007 12:08:55 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
It is a case of cause and effect, as all actions and words have outcomes. These divisions are not healed through hatred and wars, and hangings, and our so called leaders take us down a bad road as the law of outcome relies on the seeds we and they plant in the earth. The lessons not learned by the US government was that one should never divide and then fight the people you have excluded, we saw the outcome of that in the 1960's.
This is indeed a bad time we live in, and the only thing we can hope is to put oneself in a correct position of conduct. The answer to the outcome of our conduct is then already known, as if day by day we build trust and love then the outcome is good, and if we build the opposite then destruction will ensue, and this is the lesson we have failed to learn.
Secondly, I haven't written to the board of late because I felt that either no one understood what I was talking about, or that they did and I was being somewhat excluded because the math and ideas I was putting forward did not fit in with those who admin your board. I tried to e-mail Don over some questions but alas no reply, so I had the feeling that his invitation was kind of hollow.
Well I could have thought like that, most people do, so do you see how these matters arise, grow, and fester. As by following the dialog of the mind it is like following the emotion's of a sick heart, for all it states is self-benefit and the means to get oneself in a good position of wealth or fame. This is what has to be given up if we are to overcome our problems, but things are going to get very bad before most people will look at an alternative view of the world. So how many of us are ready to take this new way on board? Please sign-in below.
Paul.
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Post by Don Barone on Jan 3, 2007 20:04:58 GMT -5
Hi Paul.
Sorry if you feel I have ignored you or not responded but alas sometimes I simply do not see "it" or understand "it". It is at times like this I have nothing to offer. Charlotte knows I am as if a wave or series of waves or tides and again at the moment it is the lowest of tides in The Bay of Fundy.
Best and Happy New Year
Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 4, 2007 8:50:50 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. So nice to see you again, Paul, good health and all the best in 2007 and thereafter, to you and yours, and the world It is a case of cause and effect, as all actions and words have outcomes. Realizing this, one becomes more and more mindful of one's action, but the first thing to look at and examine are one's thoughts, training oneself to stop ugly ones in their tracks, hard to do. Gurdijeff's "self-remembering" is a good method to use. These divisions are not healed through hatred and wars, and hangings, and our so called leaders take us down a bad road as the law of outcome relies on the seeds we and they plant in the earth. The lessons not learned by the US government was that one should never divide and then fight the people you have excluded, we saw the outcome of that in the 1960's. Agreed. This is indeed a bad time we live in, and the only thing we can hope is to put oneself in a correct position of conduct. The answer to the outcome of our conduct is then already known, as if day by day we build trust and love then the outcome is good, and if we build the opposite then destruction will ensue, and this is the lesson we have failed to learn. Generally, this is what we were talking about. The hopeful thing is that there a millions of people all over the world doing just that: building "trust and love", returned to the sender, so then we are back to the same principle of sowing and reaping, which even the man on the street aknowledges, but jeers the word Karma. Secondly, I haven't written to the board of late because I felt that either no one understood what I was talking about, or that they did and I was being somewhat excluded because the math and ideas I was putting forward did not fit in with those who admin your board. I tried to e-mail Don over some questions but alas no reply, so I had the feeling that his invitation was kind of hollow. It is not so. This is a most democratic board, we can talk about anything and everything here, including personal stuff or "chatting." Speaking for myself, I understand 95% of what you are talking about, as I come firstly from the philosophical and wisdom tradition, so to speak, and naturally see things firstly in this light. I also understand your view of current science because it is almost identical to mine. I read what people had to say in the the link you gave: PhysOrgForum Science. As time allowed, I have followed the enlightening "conversation" between you and Laird Scranton (Occam's Razor) at GH, co-conspiring in thought and expanding my field. What do you say to antimatter being the "real", and the real being antimatter, as in our subconscious, includes memory, being the real, and our every day awareness the unreal? As in every visible "thing" is a replica of its invisible "counterpart" or form of an idea which then "matters?" To my delight also is your view of the two sides to Atlantis: "So the story of Atlantis, when it is seen as a treasure or a source of earthly power, has arisen because we have looked for it in all the wrong places." Touche! I understand the crossover of energies and information in our mind, and we are in total agreement of man being the microcosm. I love your stuff, what more can I say My reason for not responding to your posts was strictly time constraints, because like you, I can never just put down a few words without explaining how I came by my theories and opinions. And then you were gone  Well I could have thought like that, most people do, so do you see how these matters arise, grow, and fester. As by following the dialog of the mind it is like following the emotion's of a sick heart, for all it states is self-benefit and the means to get oneself in a good position of wealth or fame. This is what has to be given up if we are to overcome our problems, but things are going to get very bad before most people will look at an alternative view of the world. So how many of us are ready to take this new way on board? Please sign-in below. I try my best to shut up and out the dialog in my mind by: stop at once you chattering fools ;D! Have built trust with people in everyday life, improving their invironment daily is part of my happiness, therefore I'm on board. But I will not give up Schokolade! Charlotte Paul. |
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 4, 2007 9:01:43 GMT -5
Hi Paul. Sorry if you feel I have ignored you or not responded but alas sometimes I simply do not see "it" or understand "it". It is at times like this I have nothing to offer. Charlotte knows I am as if a wave or series of waves or tides and again at the moment it is the lowest of tides in The Bay of Fundy. Best and Happy New Year Don Barone What goes up must come down Spinning wheel gotta go round, Talk about your troubles and talk about your ills One man gatheres what another man spills. Can you answer? Yes I can! What would be the answer to the answer man? I just throw my hands in the air and say: ok I give up! Dead Head Charlotte |
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Post by pmacg on Jan 6, 2007 18:25:56 GMT -5
Thanks for your very informed reply Charlotte. In the study of our mind's dialog we know where all this stuff is coming from, we are all made the same way. This understanding is a fundamental rule, as once we understand the tyrant of our physical make-up is firm and cannot be changed we can then find out that all is meant to be as it is already constructed. The only thing we have missed is that we were given a tool but we use it the wrong way round, that's why Gnostics saw the serpent as the bringer of wisdom, and why others perceived it as the devil to be destroyed. The Gnostics understood its purpose of telling us of the attachments we have to the physical, and taught that we should never eat of this fruit called physical desire for ourselves alone. Thus in true love the mother cares for her children more than herself, and her husband cares more about her than himself - this is the point we now seem to miss. The problem is that, not getting this point is so destructive to all relationships, from the man and the woman, to mankind and earth. The recent investigations of matter and anti-matter have shown us the other side, of what is beyond the conceived or the known to exist. The mind is an event horizon beyond or into which we cannot see, the observer perceives what is in front of it, but who or the observer is cannot be described. This is the same with the universe as beyond the event horizon of black hole there is nothing, and yet it is now known to be something as it transmits information across the horizon into the created states that we can observe and investigate. The levels of the creation are not only in this dimension but are now know to exist in a place without time or space. And as information flows from the event horizon it moves or changes the balance of the universal matrix or lattice at any point in time/space at the same moment, this means the universe and us are not confined to this material or physical body alone, we have many levels to our make-up some of which to us don't exist at all. With this universality in mind I move forward to getting the book published, and as I have been told it says things that people don't want to here, and that it is only through necessity that we will change our world view, it is therefore our inner voice that limits us to being separated from our wholeness of construct. Paul. |
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 7, 2007 12:02:39 GMT -5
Thanks for your very informed reply Charlotte. In the study of our mind's dialog we know where all this stuff is coming from, we are all made the same way. This understanding is a fundamental rule, as once we understand the tyrant of our physical make-up is firm and cannot be changed we can then find out that all is meant to be as it is already constructed. The only thing we have missed is that we were given a tool but we use it the wrong way round, that's why Gnostics saw the serpent as the bringer of wisdom, and why others perceived it as the devil to be destroyed. The Gnostics understood its purpose of telling us of the attachments we have to the physical, and taught that we should never eat of this fruit called physical desire for ourselves alone. Thus in true love the mother cares for her children more than herself, and her husband cares more about her than himself - this is the point we now seem to miss. The problem is that, not getting this point is so destructive to all relationships, from the man and the woman, to mankind and earth. I know first hand that the Gnostics still understand and teach the universal Gnosis because one of my 4 principal teachers was, and is the erudite Dr. Stephan Hoeller, director of the Gnostic Society here in Glendale, CA, whose lectures on many subjects, from the Kabalah to King Arthur's Roundtable, I attended for many years. Aside from the reasons you stated, I observe family relationships don't work because one partner is expecting the other to make them happy: what are you going to do to make ME happy, instead of finding their own inner fountain of happiness and let the waters flow. So goes the family, so goes the empire. The recent investigations of matter and anti-matter have shown us the other side, of what is beyond the conceived or the known to exist. The mind is an event horizon beyond or into which we cannot see, the observer perceives what is in front of it, but who or the observer is cannot be described. This invisible observer I liken to the Egyptians "overseer of the overseer of the royal house", which is our body, as also in dreams we cannot know the dreamer but only the dream. Would you say that in a sense DNA is this overseer and the messenger RNA? This is the same with the universe as beyond the event horizon of black hole there is nothing, and yet it is now known to be something as it transmits information across the horizon into the created states that we can observe and investigate. The levels of the creation are not only in this dimension but are now know to exist in a place without time or space. And as information flows from the event horizon it moves or changes the balance of the universal matrix or lattice at any point in time/space at the same moment, this means the universe and us are not confined to this material or physical body alone, we have many levels to our make-up some of which to us don't exist at all. I understand and agree. With this universality in mind I move forward to getting the book published, and as I have been told it says things that people don't want to here, and that it is only through necessity that we will change our world view, it is therefore our inner voice that limits us to being separated from our wholeness of construct. The time has come for people to hear things they don't want to hear. We are at the 11th hour going toward a zenith, and since we have not changed by inspiration, afforded to us by so many, we are now forced by desperation. There is scarcely one person on this planet who doesn't feel the tremendous pressure of birthing a new humanity. What happiness it will be holding this new baby in our arms and guiding it to maturity. I'm in it for the long haul Paul. Charlotte |
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Post by pmacg on Jan 8, 2007 18:17:00 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
I have read 2 books by Dr Stephen Hoeller, and erudite is an understatement as he is one of the leading voices to link the physical and psychological to the symbolism of Gnostic teachings and Eastern practice. His book on Jung's Seven Sermons of the Dead revealed much of Jung's own deeper understanding of Alchemy, as to how in the explanation of many things he encountered in his patients, these could not clinically rises unless another or other dimensions existed - though Jung said this was beyond his own time's depth of science, and that in death he would wait until the time arrived when this missing part could be comprehended.
Jung gave a warning against the use of Tantric Yoga as in our conceptual mindset it leads to delusion, as the attached person believes what they see in mind as not being part of their own family or universal make up, and therefore follow the dream or dialog out into action, so in the belief of the activity arising into mind they suffer the insanity of attachment to the creative forces of the inner visions and voices (the fire). Our history is littered with people who thought the Gnostic texts and Tantric Doctrines held personal power and were a way to gain material wealth, but in their investigations they at least left us with pointers as to the blind alleys, the paths not to be trod - so each gave their own helping hand to people like Jung who unravelled much of the symbolism and actually related it to something that works.
I therefore named chapter 7 in the book 'Seven Sermons of the Dead' and give a lot of attention to Jung as one of the fathers of the 60's spiritual revolution, as he introduced the new rival of Gnosticism, in which we are able to gain a true perspective of 'The Story' to which we had lost the meaning, so as to just become a narrative with no real meaning and no true base for faith.
In finding our relationship to the universal entity, as through practice we find that we are not limited in our scope of being to the individual insular subjective view, as through it we become objective and detached from conceptual labels of "I', 'Me', and 'Mine', and become unbiased to a doctrine of faith that is bound by our imagination of an image of god or whatever, for we find 'Knowing'. These Gnostic concepts are alien to us, as we now live more in the image, or imagination of what we should receive from others and from the world, so even though we might not worship a carved image in stone or wood we still worship the image manufactured in our mind. This image separates us from the truth of the pure experience, as what we can really have faith in is the wisdom contained in the working of nature, in the gift of life. Thereby we fail to value what is the true treasure and the true miracle that Jung and Hoeller direct us towards.
People will have trouble understanding my work, I realize that, but hopefully those who have investigated the things, of which you speak, will find in it the same set of keys or seals that unlock the symbolism of "The Story'. This brings the characters of 'The Story' to life as they each dwell within us, as each part of the narrative is directed towards the creative process that is continually taking place in body and mind. This investigation makes science spiritual, and spiritual becomes science, as until now not many have realized that Two are One. In practice we find the clear position in the middle of the two opposites of physical movement (of gain and loss), and in this way we give-up the world.
We need to somehow give people the knowledge gained through self-investigation, but also to teach them the law of cause and effect, so each can see the way to gain true love and trust. But at this point I feel it is important to be able to accept death, for if we can do this much we can at least approach the times ahead without fear, and stand more of a chance of doing something about it than the headlong rush to extinction we are now taking.
Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 9, 2007 10:12:55 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. I have read 2 books by Dr Stephen Hoeller, and erudite is an understatement as he is one of the leading voices to link the physical and psychological to the symbolism of Gnostic teachings and Eastern practice. His book on Jung's Seven Sermons of the Dead revealed much of Jung's own deeper understanding of Alchemy, as to how in the explanation of many things he encountered in his patients, these could not clinically rises unless another or other dimensions existed - though Jung said this was beyond his own time's depth of science, and that in death he would wait until the time arrived when this missing part could be comprehended. Hello Paul, Yes, Dr. Hoeller gave many and repeated lectures on Jung's depth psychology. During such I often thought that person studying in academic institutions to become psychologist should come to his lectures. Jung gave a warning against the use of Tantric Yoga as in our conceptual mindset it leads to delusion, as the attached person believes what they see in mind as not being part of their own family or universal make up, and therefore follow the dream or dialog out into action, so in the belief of the activity arising into mind they suffer the insanity of attachment to the creative forces of the inner visions and voices (the fire). Our history is littered with people who thought the Gnostic texts and Tantric Doctrines held personal power and were a way to gain material wealth, but in their investigations they at least left us with pointers as to the blind alleys, the paths not to be trod - so each gave their own helping hand to people like Jung who unravelled much of the symbolism and actually related it to something that works. Many a person who acquires some degree of power through diligent study or "self-initiation", or seen by some such teacher to be worthy of a deeper understanding of life's mysteries, abuse this power for personal gain, and when in the extreeme, it is said, leads to the greatest punishment conceivable. I therefore named chapter 7 in the book 'Seven Sermons of the Dead' and give a lot of attention to Jung as one of the fathers of the 60's spiritual revolution, as he introduced the new rival of Gnosticism, in which we are able to gain a true perspective of 'The Story' to which we had lost the meaning, so as to just become a narrative with no real meaning and no true base for faith. You honering Dr. Hoeller is wonderful In finding our relationship to the universal entity, as through practice we find that we are not limited in our scope of being to the individual insular subjective view, as through it we become objective and detached from conceptual labels of "I', 'Me', and 'Mine', and become unbiased to a doctrine of faith that is bound by our imagination of an image of god or whatever, for we find 'Knowing'. These Gnostic concepts are alien to us, as we now live more in the image, or imagination of what we should receive from others and from the world, so even though we might not worship a carved image in stone or wood we still worship the image manufactured in our mind. This image separates us from the truth of the pure experience, as what we can really have faith in is the wisdom contained in the working of nature, in the gift of life. Thereby we fail to value what is the true treasure and the true miracle that Jung and Hoeller direct us towards. "as what we can really have faith in is the wisdom contained in the workings of nature, in the gift of life." Paracelsus agrees with you. People will have trouble understanding my work, I realize that, but hopefully those who have investigated the things, of which you speak, will find in it the same set of keys or seals that unlock the symbolism of "The Story'. This brings the characters of 'The Story' to life as they each dwell within us, as each part of the narrative is directed towards the creative process that is continually taking place in body and mind. This investigation makes science spiritual, and spiritual becomes science, as until now not many have realized that Two are One. In practice we find the clear position in the middle of the two opposites of physical movement (of gain and loss), and in this way we give-up the world. Another one of my teachers, a retired chemist, no less erudite than Dr. Hoeller, made "An attempt to unite science, religion, and philosophy", as he called the extensive lecture notes he gave us with each lecture, and so I learned compairing concepts and theories of modern science with the teachings of all ancient traditions, and in time recognizing the sameness with relative ease. We need to somehow give people the knowledge gained through self-investigation, but also to teach them the law of cause and effect, so each can see the way to gain true love and trust. But at this point I feel it is important to be able to accept death, for if we can do this much we can at least approach the times ahead without fear, and stand more of a chance of doing something about it than the headlong rush to extinction we are now taking. I can't say that I'm fearful of death, at the moment anyway, because I do accept that we are immortal, cannot accept that our being and life has no rhyme and reason. 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comes by and invites the man to come on bord, but he replies in the same manner, and drowns. So three times God offers to save him but he did not recognize the mysterious way Allah works, all the time and everywhere, being everything, or an "intelligent life force" harmonizing events, dismissed as mere coincidences. The whole of the universe works this way on all levels, everything a reaction to a reaction beginning with the original action. 
