11/9, 2003. God, I hope I am wrong.

[Don Barone]

Hi All:

Over the past few months I have had an increasing anxiety about a certain date. This date is 11/9, 2003. Please read this post of mine from Graham Hancock's website.

Watch 11/9 2003. [reversal of 9/11 2001 ] Difference between 2001 and 2003 being 2 and the month being 2 and the day being 2. Call it a hunch but it has been on my mind for some time now especially with bush going to England. I am very uneasy on what this particular day might bring. No significance in the 2 but all the dates will have changed by 2. Omninous to be sure. Reading the article about Muslims being told to leave these three cities has heightened my concern.

God I hope I am wrong. Also as an equation we have 2 - 2 + 2 = 2 ! Please let this just be my over active imagination.

To add to my fears is the fact that Muslims are being told to leave three major US cities [New York, Washington DC. and Los Angeles] and the fact that president george bush will not be in the united states at this time.

So may I say again, God I hope I am wrong !

Don Barone

[Earache]

I hope your wrong also,bud !!! I been having a feeling also of dread for three days now. Strange feelings !

[Michelle]

I hope you're wrong too, Don. So far I haven't felt anything, but I'll let you know if I do.

I "know" when people are going to die. Not much fun and not at all what I'd call a "gift". Normally it's only people I know - family and friends - that I tune into. It's like I become hyper. Can't explain it easily. It's like I speed up on super energy, but the feeling is stressful and unpleasant and it's usually within 12-24 hours of a death.

On Sept 11 the feeling was so bad I thought I must be the one who was going to die. I felt like total hell and my adrenalin levels were making me freaky. I did everything at high speed including talking, much to the bewilderment of someone I had a business meeting with that day!

So if I start speeding up I'll let you guys know.

Sometimes I've dreamt of the event before it happens as well, but that's rare. In that case it's usually 24-48 hours before. I knew my gran's cat was going to die 2 days before she did and I knew princess Diana would be one of four people in an accident where only one would survive. Also the death of a fireman and one murder. Those were horrible. At the time I didn't believe the dreams until after they came true, but when I dreamt the Queen Mother was going to die I warned my mom as she was a Queen mum fan. That time it was only 26 hours later that her death was on the news.

I have been wrong once with dreams, but never with the sped-up feeling. Interestingly I met a business woman last year. Long story - basically we got chatting and she admitted to being psychic and to feeling "revved up and high on energy" when people she knew were about to die.

Will be keeping aware.

Michelle

[Charlotte]

'Tis interesting Michel. I think sensitive people are tuned in some to future events. I have had precognitive dreams, which then came to pass.

About knowing that people will die, I had two experiences, both in a bar. Another story from my life, which is slowly becoming an open book here. Years ago, somebody invited me to play pool. I loved the game, but was to embarrassed to go to a bar alone, so I bought one. Big mistake.

One day I was standing behind the counter, a bold headed man appeared in the doorway, I looked up, said hello with a smile, at the same time feeling a nervous energy or anxiousness come over me, and I knew he was going to die. Two days later they found him dead.

Shortly thereafter, I was sitting next to a man on a bar stool facing the pool table, both of us waiting our turn. He had domestic problems, and as he complained about his wife I began to hear him as through a tunnel. This time I felt a frightening nervousness, I knew he too was going to die, and I had to get up and walk outside. The feeling is indeed stessful and unpleasant, in the least.

These two incidences had me thinking and wondering for a long time, but gradually faded, and I had forgotten them until I read your post.

Charlotte

[Michelle]

Hi Charlotte

Fascinating story. This place seems to be bringing out the stories in each of us, doesn't it?

Interesting reading about your own experiences. I've only had that happen once. The other times the family deaths were at a distance, but this one time was my grandfather. He had been ill a while and when I went this night to visit I just knew, like you say. This was the first time actually that I ever knew and it scared me a lot.

The sad part for me at the time was I somehow knew he understood and knew as well. Looking back at that night I realise he was trying to say goodbye, but I refused to stay and hear. I was out the room as fast as I could.

I regretted that badly at first, but since then I have felt his presence often as have several of the family and that helped a lot. He was a very "active" spirit for a while. He even "threw" keys at my father, part of a joke, which was really amazing. It helps a lot to know there are no real boundaries for the soul/spirit. Just ones for the body.

Now after today I can just see me dreaming of Wilbur the pig playing pool in a smokey bar!

Michelle

[Charlotte]

Hi Michelle,

Even though I believe we are immortal, it's scary to be with somebody who is dying.

Wilbur wouldn't be caught dead in a bar. I didn't have it very long, didn't like the atmosphere, and most people didn't like me. I told them to get a job lol and go to school instead of spending their day in a bar. But I did love to play pool, especially the banking and double banking.

Charlotte

[Michelle]

I must admit I found it hard imagining you owning a bar.

Wilbur wouldn't be caught dead in a bar.

If you did.. he'd be pork rinds. ;D

Aaah, I know - BAD joke, but I couldn't resist! LOL

[Charlotte]

Truly, before I was invited to play pool, and bought one, I didn't know such places existed. It was a learning experience.

Never did like pork rinds either lol.

Back to the original subject, I'm sure everyone has heard the new warnings issued by Homeland Security. I think it will take a century before we're out of this mess

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte ...

Yes I am afraid it will be at least a century, if ever, before this insanity is halted. Here is my posting over at Graham's this morning ...

I hope I am wrong ... Part II

Don

[Earache]

That feeling we've been talking about has stay the same since yesterday. Is yours increasing at all Don. Its 7:32am here.

[Michelle]

There's a lunar ecplise tonight over the Americas and buts of Europe/Africa. Some astrology sites are predicting that the 8th and 9th are a very important turning point in human awareness.

I'll be waiting to see... can't say I feel anything extreme myself so far.

[JoeS]

I found a puzzling and somewhat troubling coincidence today while searching for the actual dates when Sirius is not visible in the morning sky (if anyone can supply those dates, I'd be most grateful), I found a web page about the Coptic Calendar, which is based on the Ancient Egyptian Sothic Calendar (calculated from the Helical rising of Sirius).

To cut to the chase: New Year's Day in the Coptic calendar is September 11.

Coptic Calendar

I have long been puzzled as to the date of the 9/11 attacks as that date seems to have no particular significance to Muslims and it was clear to me that the date had to be of great significance to those who carried out the attacks.

As a side note, the Helical Rising of Sirius only concides with 9/11 every 1495 years. The last time this occurred was 1599 AD. The next occurence will be 3094 AD. The Ancient Egyptians saw this event as the beginning of a new Era. This would mark 9/11 2001 as the beginning of the 401st year of the current Sothic era.

BTW, I also hope you are wrong, Don. I'm pretty sure the tale of Muslims being told to leave US cities on 11/9 is simply rumour-mongering.

Joe.

[Don Barone]

Blast hits housing in Saudi capital

A powerful explosion has hit Saudi Arabia's capital, Riyadh.

The blast, at about midnight (Don's note: November 9th] (2100 GMT), hit the Muhaya residential compound, which houses mainly Saudi workers - as well as foreigners - in the west of the capital.

The manager of the compound says there are at least 100 casualties, including many children.

Is there more to come ?

Regards
Don Barone

[Joe S]

I hate to pour water on your prognostication skills, but you did infer quite clearly that you feared an event in the USA, not Saudi Arabia, which had been speculated about in the press for the past few days.

Back to wearing the "Cub Psychic" badge for you, I'm afraid.

Joe.

[Don Barone]

Hi JoeS ...

Joe in my humble opinion Saudi Arabia has always and will always be an american target of occupation [at least until the oil is depleted]. Yes I was looking for an event on this side of the pond but I am not surprised by events in Saudi Arabia. I am still trying to figure out why al Qaeda would attack Saudi Arabia when 19 of the 21 pilots and hijackers on 9/11 allegedly came from this country. Why would they cause trouble in the middle east and give the damn yanks another reason to move into yet another country over there. I find it very unusual that just after a speech by the chimp about democracy in The Middle East a non democratic country is attacked. So I really do question who was really behind this attack and also very much question the reasons. In my opinion Al Qaeda had little to gain by angering another islamic country. This whole thing smells in my opinion.

Best Regards
Don Barone

[Joe S]

>> Yes I was looking for an event on this side of the pond but I am not surprised by events in Saudi Arabia. <<

I predict something bad will happen in the Middle East on 11/11. What are the chances of me being right at this time? 80%? 90%?

>> I am still trying to figure out why al Qaeda would attack Saudi Arabia when 19 of the 21 pilots and hijackers on 9/11 allegedly came from this country. <<

It's all to do with a power struggle between the ruling Saud family and several wealthy, non-royal, families for control of the country. Would it amaze you to know that major players in the current US administration favor overthrowing the Sauds and replacing them with Hashemite heirs, which would greatly benefit the Bin Laden family and other non-royals in Saudi? Everone else (al Queda, Taliban etc, ) are just pawns in this power struggle: It's medaevil politics being played wth modern toys, a very dangerous mixture.

BTW, according to some sources, a few of the alleged 9/11 Hijackers are alive and well and living in Saudi Arabia.

-Joe.

[Aurora]

I agree it smells and it sucks.
I have exactly the same feeling.
Aurora
PS. if you follows the news there are hints
of what's maybe coming but I sincerely hope I am wrong:
1st warning of possible cargo hijacking from Canada, the Carribean and/or another close neighbouring country against US nuclear plant (could be a diversion though for something else)
2nd (you said it) muslims asked to leave 3 coastal cities (in my opinion to give the change)
3rd and most important "head of state" out of the country also it would be worth checking where the 2nd in command actually the real "head of state" is actually
so the road is paved for a major event in the US
besides I have heard that 11/11 is of particular significance and I write that today in the wee hours of the morning/ In my opinion it is propaganda destined to prepare people to a major event
4. maybe unrelated but the attention is now focused on England with Charles' story and Bush presence
So if you analize things everything can be a potential conspiracy and it is easy to fall in the paranoia.
Finally always bear in mind how the "magician" operates when he does his trick he is drawing the attention of the spectators on one thing while he is doing something else...........

[Davros awaiting a password]

To Quote Joe (JoeS):
>I have long been puzzled as to the date of the 9/11 attacks ?
>as that date seems to have no particular significance to
>Muslims and it was clear to me that the date had to be of
>great significance to those who carried out the attacks.

Can I cast your mind back to 1970? I was 2 at the time, so I have no memory of this. According to David Yallop (“To The Ends of the Earth” ISBN 0-224-02368-3. Published 1993 by Jonathan Cape Ltd, part of Random House):
(Quotes)
Chapter 3 “Black September” Page 47 - 48
In a concerted act of air piracy unprecedented in the history of civil aviation the commercial airways suddenly became more dangerous than any place on earth. The day that anarchy took control of the pilot’s cabin was September 6th 1970.
11.50 am. An American Boeing 707 of TWA carrying 145 passengers and 10 crew from Frankfurt to New York is hijacked over Belgium and forced to fly to the Middle East where it lands at a desert airstrip in Jordan called Dawson’s Field. The airfield is under the absolute control of the PFLP.
1.14 pm. A Swissair DC-8 airliner flying from Zurich to New York with 143 passengers and 12 crew is hijacked over central France. Again the pilot, flying at gunpoint, changes course and lands at Dawson’s Field.
1.50 pm. Two hijackers attempt to seize an El Al Boeing 707 flying from Tel Aviv to New York via Amsterdam. In this instance the hijack fails … (Paragraph truncated by Davros)
4.00 pm. (Sentence deleted by Davros) … A Pan American 747 Jumbo Jet flying from Amsterdam to New York is seized. The three “Senegalese” cannot divert the plane to Dawson’s Field because their leader, Khaled, is the only member of the team with the navigational instructions supplied by Haddad. (They fly to Beirut and eventually to Cairo where they order the evacuation of the plane as their time bombs explode. [Summary by Davros])

[Summary]
Later a British VC-10 airliner with 105 passengers and 10 crew was hijacked over the Persian Gulf and joined the two others at Dawson’s Field.
[End Summary]

Then on Page 51:
On September 11th they and their colleagues organised the safe removal of all the hostages from the blistering heat, but the relief was short-lived for the hundred shocked and exhausted passengers and crew. While the three airliners were blown up with the news media in full attendance …

(End Quotes)

PFLP is the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. I don’t know whether the times given are GMT, BST, Local Time or Jordanian Time.

Now to me that seems a bit much: 2 dates of September 11th involving the destruction of at least 3 airliners each. I won’t dwell on the data (it’s not confirmed as a fact) that construction on the Pentagon was either approved or started on September 11th 1940 or 1941. (Could someone confirm the date and the action please?). I think the Pentagon date is actually a real coincidence – having no bearing on the Dawsons Field events, which just “happened” to occur on that date, but as to the events 31 years later, welllll.