Post by Don Barone on Mar 16, 2006 7:15:18 GMT -5
By Roscoe:
I have been unable to make Teniers: 'The Temptation of St. Anthony and St Paul ' reveal anything to me. However whatever is in Teniers painting IT IS DIFFERENT than the code and the grid used by Poussin and probably van Eyck. I have not given up just tired for the time being. There is a 4th painting involved as well (I think) and I will leave it for now for it is just a guess on my part. This mystery is a vortex and it draws one ever deeper into a variety of mysteries. What I have found although exciting and interesting is still but what is scrapped off the tip of a mountain when a little bird who once in every million years sharpens his beak on it and then quickly disappears. What is scrapped off by this little bird is what I have found. And interestingly, if you know the song, when the mountain is worn away it is but one day to eternity.
Cheers
Don Barone
The Teniers painting deals with timing as this:
indicates.
Perhaps you'd like to see this:
It's from a collection made by Robert Boyle a contemporary of Nicolas Poussin who was the eighteenth Grand Master of the Priory of Sion 1654-91(according to the Dossiers Secrets) who took over from J Valentin Andrea who wrote the Rosicrucian Manifestos and immediately before Isaac Newton who needs no introduction.
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By Don Barone:
Hi Roscoe ...
Perhaps you would like to explain the image to us. I see four circles however maybe the first three have diameters equal to the three pyramids. It is the only connection I can see at the moment.
Cheers
Don Barone
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By Roscoe:
Perhaps you would like to explain the image to us. I see four circles however maybe the first three have diameters equal to the three pyramids. It is the only connection I can see at the moment.
Cheers
Don Barone
There aren't any pyramids but there are several equilateral triangles which are arranged to form the Seal of Solomon. None of triangles form the DIAMETER of a circle but they do touch the circumference.
I take it you are aware of this:
THE DIAGRAM ABOVE IS DISTORTED IN REALITY IT IS PERFECTLY ROUND
If anyone thinks this is contrived then perhaps I ought to point out the the radius of this circle is EXACTLY the same distance as one of the points of the pentacle of mountains to the opposite intersection. You'll notice that there are four churches on this circumference, the distance of the arc of two of the churches, Les Sauzils and St Ferriol, form the seal of Solomon and the arc distance of the other two, Granes and Coustaussa, form a pentacle.
One detractor has said that he's checked these out using GPS and that some churches and points are up to fifty metres out (this is over several miles by the way). I pointed out to him that GPS is only accurate up to 100 meters in mountainous terrain and sent him a suitable set of donkey ears. There's an interesting story about the church at Autugnac if you're interested.
Tying this in with the workings of a former Priory of Sion Grand Master is a worthy exercise.
I can't realistically find a PHI relationship in this diagram. But this diagram is significant in both the Rennes le Chateau and the Bornholm landscapes.
Do you have the measurements of the distances between the Pyramids actually on the Giza Plateau?
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By Roscoe:
Don
You seem to want to avoid me.
I take it you are aware of this?
No it's not an illusion it really is tilted.
The Cornford analysis is invalid, there is a large part of the painting normally covered by the frame.
Are you aware of this?
This is not the pentacle in the painting. There are several repetitions of the same measurement. But this my be no more than Poussin's way of creating balance to the painting.
I know what the shepherd's crooks mean and they have something to do with a thing that's in the painting.
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By Don Barone:
Hi roscoe you sent an image linked to Brian Ettinger's website. Are you Brian ?
And if I had to choose between two images ...
this one ...
or this one ...
I think I know which one I would pick.
As to avoiding you I already have mentioned I do not subscribe to the fact that the mystery lies in France.
cheers
Don Barone
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By Roscoe:
Poussin and Teniers were French.
With reference to that image at the davincisecrets site.
Will this help?
This is a public domain photograph as it is Schellenberger and Andrews' corrected pentacle using the correct full size of the Poussin painting.
Here's that blow up of the centre of the Seal of solomon and the pentacle:
Still think it's not a French mystery?
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By Don Barone:
Are you Brian Ettinger ?
Regards
Don Barone
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By Don Barone:
Roscoe either your image is faked or mine is. They do not look at all the same. Where did your image come from.
Scanned image from Sister's Wendy 1000 Masterpieces:
and yours ...
This is far to square at the top right. So I ask again Roscoe where did this close-up come from ?
Regards
Don Barone
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By Roscoe:
Scanned image from Sister's Wendy 1000 Masterpieces:
and yours ...
This is far to square at the top right. So I ask again Roscoe where did this close-up come from ?
Regards
Don Barone
I took it myself from the 600mm x 480mm poster I purchased in January from the Rennes le Chateau shop. It was to replace my old one that had become a little battered.
I did sharpen it with the auto sharpen and removed the noise with Photoshop with the 'repair' facility, but there is no other alteration. There has been no line drawing. I did this only to remove blurring.
Have you read 'The Tomb of God' by Schellenger and Andrews? Interesting piece about Anthony Blunt (art expert and self proclaimed Poussin expert?) getting the date wrong. Blunt was a Russian spy in the Burgess/Maclean scandal and Queen Elizabeth's art advisor.
Have you seen the original 'Les Bergers d'Arcadie' in the Louvre? I suggest you take a look at the original, unfortunately they wont let you take it home. Take a particular look at the sky brush strokes compared to the rest of the painting.
It seems that this painting has crude paintings of the sky showing brush strokes not present in any other Poussin paintings. Apparantly Poussin pressed down on the wet paint with his thumb in order to remove any sign of brush strokes. Why didn't he bother with the sky in this painting?
Was he simply slapdash in this painting or is there something more sinister here? There's more to this than meets the eye.
We have this and then we have the missing dip where Rennes le Chateau is supposed to be situated on the right of the painting.
Bearing in mind that this painting was in the possession of Louis XIV for some time who kept it hidden It was he who imprisoned Louis Fouquet brother of the Abbe Fouquet who had had that enigmatic conversation with Poussin.
This one he wrote in a letter to his brother:
"He and I discussed certain things, which I shall with ease be able to explain to you in detail - things which will give you, through Monsieur Poussin, advantages which even kings would have great pains to draw from him, and which, according to him, it is possible that nobody else will ever discover in the centuries to come. And what is more, these are things so difficult to discover that nothing now on this earth can prove of better fortune nor be their equal.”
Even Anthony Blunt confirmed this as genuine.
I have other reasons to believe this point indicated by Schellenberger and Andrews to be significant. This merely fits in with my other findings if only superficially.
This is a French mystery.
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By Roscoe:
Regards
Don Barone
Absolutely not.
He's got it all wrong and I told him so, but I haven't heard from him yet.
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By Don Barone:
In my estimation the image you have supplied is a fake. Not by you but by the shop in Rennes. ... or do you suggest the image in The Louvre is ? Regardless you are free to start your own thread here on what you feel is the answer. This particular thread was and is on The Giza Pentagram and the pyramids found in Poussin's paintings. If you have comments on that feel free to post them here otherwise please begin your own thread.
Don Barone
admin said:
Hi Julia ...I have been unable to make Teniers: 'The Temptation of St. Anthony and St Paul ' reveal anything to me. However whatever is in Teniers painting IT IS DIFFERENT than the code and the grid used by Poussin and probably van Eyck. I have not given up just tired for the time being. There is a 4th painting involved as well (I think) and I will leave it for now for it is just a guess on my part. This mystery is a vortex and it draws one ever deeper into a variety of mysteries. What I have found although exciting and interesting is still but what is scrapped off the tip of a mountain when a little bird who once in every million years sharpens his beak on it and then quickly disappears. What is scrapped off by this little bird is what I have found. And interestingly, if you know the song, when the mountain is worn away it is but one day to eternity.
Cheers
Don Barone
The Teniers painting deals with timing as this:
indicates.
Perhaps you'd like to see this:
It's from a collection made by Robert Boyle a contemporary of Nicolas Poussin who was the eighteenth Grand Master of the Priory of Sion 1654-91(according to the Dossiers Secrets) who took over from J Valentin Andrea who wrote the Rosicrucian Manifestos and immediately before Isaac Newton who needs no introduction.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Don Barone:
Hi Roscoe ...
Perhaps you would like to explain the image to us. I see four circles however maybe the first three have diameters equal to the three pyramids. It is the only connection I can see at the moment.
Cheers
Don Barone
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By Roscoe:
admin said:
Hi Roscoe ...Perhaps you would like to explain the image to us. I see four circles however maybe the first three have diameters equal to the three pyramids. It is the only connection I can see at the moment.
Cheers
Don Barone
There aren't any pyramids but there are several equilateral triangles which are arranged to form the Seal of Solomon. None of triangles form the DIAMETER of a circle but they do touch the circumference.
I take it you are aware of this:
THE DIAGRAM ABOVE IS DISTORTED IN REALITY IT IS PERFECTLY ROUND
If anyone thinks this is contrived then perhaps I ought to point out the the radius of this circle is EXACTLY the same distance as one of the points of the pentacle of mountains to the opposite intersection. You'll notice that there are four churches on this circumference, the distance of the arc of two of the churches, Les Sauzils and St Ferriol, form the seal of Solomon and the arc distance of the other two, Granes and Coustaussa, form a pentacle.
One detractor has said that he's checked these out using GPS and that some churches and points are up to fifty metres out (this is over several miles by the way). I pointed out to him that GPS is only accurate up to 100 meters in mountainous terrain and sent him a suitable set of donkey ears. There's an interesting story about the church at Autugnac if you're interested.
Tying this in with the workings of a former Priory of Sion Grand Master is a worthy exercise.
I can't realistically find a PHI relationship in this diagram. But this diagram is significant in both the Rennes le Chateau and the Bornholm landscapes.
Do you have the measurements of the distances between the Pyramids actually on the Giza Plateau?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Roscoe:
Don
You seem to want to avoid me.
I take it you are aware of this?
No it's not an illusion it really is tilted.
The Cornford analysis is invalid, there is a large part of the painting normally covered by the frame.
Are you aware of this?
This is not the pentacle in the painting. There are several repetitions of the same measurement. But this my be no more than Poussin's way of creating balance to the painting.
I know what the shepherd's crooks mean and they have something to do with a thing that's in the painting.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Don Barone:
Hi roscoe you sent an image linked to Brian Ettinger's website. Are you Brian ?
And if I had to choose between two images ...
this one ...
or this one ...
I think I know which one I would pick.
As to avoiding you I already have mentioned I do not subscribe to the fact that the mystery lies in France.
cheers
Don Barone
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Roscoe:
Poussin and Teniers were French.
With reference to that image at the davincisecrets site.
Will this help?
This is a public domain photograph as it is Schellenberger and Andrews' corrected pentacle using the correct full size of the Poussin painting.
Here's that blow up of the centre of the Seal of solomon and the pentacle:
Still think it's not a French mystery?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Don Barone:
Are you Brian Ettinger ?
Regards
Don Barone
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Don Barone:
Roscoe either your image is faked or mine is. They do not look at all the same. Where did your image come from.
Scanned image from Sister's Wendy 1000 Masterpieces:
and yours ...
This is far to square at the top right. So I ask again Roscoe where did this close-up come from ?
Regards
Don Barone
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By Roscoe:
admin said:
Roscoe either your image is faked or mine is. They do not look at all the same. Where did your image come from.Scanned image from Sister's Wendy 1000 Masterpieces:
and yours ...
This is far to square at the top right. So I ask again Roscoe where did this close-up come from ?
Regards
Don Barone
I took it myself from the 600mm x 480mm poster I purchased in January from the Rennes le Chateau shop. It was to replace my old one that had become a little battered.
I did sharpen it with the auto sharpen and removed the noise with Photoshop with the 'repair' facility, but there is no other alteration. There has been no line drawing. I did this only to remove blurring.
Have you read 'The Tomb of God' by Schellenger and Andrews? Interesting piece about Anthony Blunt (art expert and self proclaimed Poussin expert?) getting the date wrong. Blunt was a Russian spy in the Burgess/Maclean scandal and Queen Elizabeth's art advisor.
Have you seen the original 'Les Bergers d'Arcadie' in the Louvre? I suggest you take a look at the original, unfortunately they wont let you take it home. Take a particular look at the sky brush strokes compared to the rest of the painting.
It seems that this painting has crude paintings of the sky showing brush strokes not present in any other Poussin paintings. Apparantly Poussin pressed down on the wet paint with his thumb in order to remove any sign of brush strokes. Why didn't he bother with the sky in this painting?
Was he simply slapdash in this painting or is there something more sinister here? There's more to this than meets the eye.
We have this and then we have the missing dip where Rennes le Chateau is supposed to be situated on the right of the painting.
Bearing in mind that this painting was in the possession of Louis XIV for some time who kept it hidden It was he who imprisoned Louis Fouquet brother of the Abbe Fouquet who had had that enigmatic conversation with Poussin.
This one he wrote in a letter to his brother:
"He and I discussed certain things, which I shall with ease be able to explain to you in detail - things which will give you, through Monsieur Poussin, advantages which even kings would have great pains to draw from him, and which, according to him, it is possible that nobody else will ever discover in the centuries to come. And what is more, these are things so difficult to discover that nothing now on this earth can prove of better fortune nor be their equal.”
Even Anthony Blunt confirmed this as genuine.
I have other reasons to believe this point indicated by Schellenberger and Andrews to be significant. This merely fits in with my other findings if only superficially.
This is a French mystery.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Roscoe:
admin said:
Are you Brian Ettinger ?Regards
Don Barone
Absolutely not.
He's got it all wrong and I told him so, but I haven't heard from him yet.
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By Don Barone:
In my estimation the image you have supplied is a fake. Not by you but by the shop in Rennes. ... or do you suggest the image in The Louvre is ? Regardless you are free to start your own thread here on what you feel is the answer. This particular thread was and is on The Giza Pentagram and the pyramids found in Poussin's paintings. If you have comments on that feel free to post them here otherwise please begin your own thread.
Don Barone
