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Post by Don Barone on Jul 25, 2013 11:02:04 GMT -5
If this holds to be accurate then it checks precisely with the distance of Earth and Mars semi major axis and the distance between them and the chances of this occurring randomly and so low as to be unimportant. So it would seem to show that the very placing of The Great Pyramid itself defines Pi and I should think vindicates all those who have sought to find Pi at Giza and within The Great Pyramid for if The Great Pyramid itself defines Pi in relation to The Earth how can we doubt that Pi was encoded within the structure (The Great Pyramid) itself. Praise Ra .... Here is something interesting as well. Using an ellipse calculator which may or may not be accurate we get this ... Using 6378.137 as the equatorial radius and 6356.8 as the polar radius we get this: So we find that the perimeter of oval is 40007.9564 kilometers Dividing by 4 we get 10001.9891 and then to get 30 degrees divide by 3 to get 3333.9963667 Extremely interesting when one draws in the lines for 1, 2 sq rt of 5 lines. that is going up 1/2 of the radius ... Observe below. Anyone seen this pattern before ? Simply amazingly beautiful. These builders were way beyond genius' they were, in my opinion, true gods ! Behold and enjoy ...
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 25, 2013 11:24:45 GMT -5
Probably my finest moment ... This solution is boldly going where no man has gone before. Everyone including me was always looking toward the heavens when the solution may lay deep within the Earth itself. Please enjoy what I consider a breakthrough solution to the passageways and placement of The Great Pyramid. By jove I think I've got it !
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 25, 2013 13:59:01 GMT -5
The ancient Egyptians believed that before a person could get to the afterlife, that they had to pass through the underworld. The underworld was a place that was full of terrifying monsters and dangerous animals. A person would need magic to successfully overcome these threats.
The ancient Egyptians chose spells to take with them on their journey. The spells were chosen from a group of spells known as the Book of the Dead. The spells were then written on a papyrus scroll which was buried with them in their tombs. And this ... In Egyptian mythology, Duat[pronunciation?] (also Tuat and Tuaut or Akert, Amenthes, Amenti, or Neter-khertet) is the underworld. The Duat one would think to reside in an area under the Earth, but ancient Egyptians often referred to the sky. The Duat is the realm of the god Osiris and the residence of other gods and supernatural beings. It is the region through which the sun god Ra travels from west to east during the night, and where he battled Apep. It also was the place where people's souls went after death for judgement, though it was not the full extent of the afterlife.[1] Burial chambers formed touching-points between the mundane world and the Duat, and spirits could use tombs to travel back and forth from the Duat.[2]So if my idea of the shafts and passageways of The Great Pyramid leading down to the center of The Earth and all that is dark and dangerous and indeed hot with lava and conversely others are correct that the shafts also pointed to the stars in the heavens then The Great Pyramid could indeed be the exact or maybe symbolic half way point of The Duat. This appears to make perfect sense and answers many questions. What do you think ?
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 26, 2013 9:39:39 GMT -5
To bring out one aspect, this is what I think. The Egyptians, or rather their Priest's, didn't "believe" but knew how to make it through the underworld to the afterlife as set forth in "The Book of the Dead" in which they taught the "Coming forth by Day", and the magic to successfully overcome these terrifying monsters and dangerous animals is realized by journeying through the underworld. These terrifying monsters and dangerous animals attached to a human body represent our own vices and devises. Coming forth by Day has to do with transformation and transcendence while alive as told in their Book. Repeating myself, what does it mean when they write: I have the power to be born a second time. Lo, the god knows me well . . . He made me rule Black Land and Red Land as reward, All foreign lands are my subjects, He placed my border at the limits of heaven. The perfected Man. Written on papyrus, the spells they chose to take with them on the journey were instructions, they were buried with them in their tombs for us to find, and more importantly to understand, mostly lost in the dead letter of the word interpretation as told to the general public. The Duat as underworld is not under the Earth, but the abyss of ignorance, which we're emired in on so many subjects, to be overcome, hence "the sun god Ra travels from west to east during the night", we are benighted until we see the sun rise in the east to light our way. Anubis is the conductor of Soul's through the underworld, a rite of passage, during which journey the dis-eased has to name 42 Gatekeepers and utters Negative Confessions: I have not committed sins against men I have not inflicted pain I have not committed murder I have not stopped the water from flowing I have not known men who were of no account And so forth, the Egyptians indicating that every Man counts. When the dis-eased was found "true of voice", he could enter "The Hall of Twin Truths" and avow: I am pure, I am pure as the Bennu Bird Whose nest rests upon the stone persea-tree The obelisk at Heliopolis. "Burial chambers formed touching-points between the mundane world and the Duat", if the Duat is defined as the underworld, one couldn't think that "the Duat is an area under the Earth", for both are mundane. It's complicated
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 26, 2013 12:57:23 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte I hope this post clears up where I am now. I really thought my discoveries at Giza were over for sure. I could not see anything new coming up on the horizon but Giza has a way of sneaking up on you and a diagram posted by Scott Creighton has opened up the flood gates again and the tsunami has washed ashore one more time. I will try to explain the thought processes which went into this latest round of discoveries but sometimes it is never quite good enough to explain it clearly but I will try. But first let me explain what a Geodetic Survey Monument is. A GSM is a fixed point on The Earth which has been set to rigorous standards and has an elevation above sea level on it and of course latitude and longitude marked on it. It is from using a few of these in triangulation that all other surveys are laid out. After this latest round of my research and following the work recently done by DUNE it is beyond dispute that these pyramids of Egypt, as well as mapping the solar system (see my previous billion posts) also mapped their place on The Earth and also gave us The Earth's geometry, so to all those early men who claimed that The Great Pyramid was a scale model of The Earth, well guess what, you guys, you were absolutely correct ! Rather than repeat myself too much may I suggest you read the following threads: www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=326304&t=326304www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=325492&t=325492www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=324545&t=324545 Dune's exhaustive thread on his measurements at Giza using the inch and then his measures in miles to points on the globe from The Great Pyramid. www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=326009&t=326009To start with I have always been troubled by The OCT and it never ever made sense to me and was never really in context. Although a case was attempted to be made for hitting certain stars at certain dates in the past I never thought it was an acceptable answer to Giza and what of the ascending and descending passageways ? What were their purpose ? I think I now know. I am not the first to propose and note that Giza seems to be exactly on the 30 degree line of latitude and thus in a way was marking it's own position on The Earth. Many have thought this before but I now hope I can expand this theory to bring it into the realm of fact. This latest round started when I decided to do some geometry and using a globe this time instead of the solar system. The first thing I did was mark 30 degrees (actually 29.979175 degrees) on the globe after having turned the globe from Google Earth far enough so that the right edge of the image was in fact approximately 30 degrees latitude (actual is 31°08′03.69″E ) I then drew a line to mark 30 degrees on the edge and had done this in the past but carried it a bit further this time. I also decided this time to also mark the points of the 1, 2 and square root triangle that shows up so much at Giza and the Great Pyramid and this is the diagram I got. I also drew in the 60.0 degree line and the old 0.0 longitude line as well (in green) as well. I then tried to draw a pyramid on top of this point and noticed right away that the point where the yellow lines cross looked exactly like the ascending and descending passages way and I knew I was onto something but I did not know what but I decided to plot it on and this is the result of those trials and errors. The pyramid plotted with the center of G1 going right through the 30 degree point on the curved surface of our Earth. Please notice how beautifully the passageways seem to lock in to The North and South Poles and then I decided to extend the King's shaft down to see where it would hit and imagine my shock and delight when I found it hit the origin or center of The Earth PRECISELY !!! So please understand the significance of this. Not only was the descending passageway but also the King's Chamber Shaft was leading directly and exactly toward the center of The Earth and toward the underworld. It was a clear map to the underworld and the abode of Osiris ? NOTE: ... Who is Osiris?
Osiris was the god and chief judge of the underworld. He was also god of vegetation and the annual Nile flood and was closely associated with death, resurrection and fertility. The ancient Egyptians believed him to be a dead king, a former ruler who had been miraculously restored to life after being murdered by his brother Seth. For this reason he came to symbolize the hope for eternal life that every Egyptian held. - See more at: australianmuseum.net.au/The-underworld-and-the-afterlife-in-ancient-Egypt#sthash.0Y9mEfyT.dpuf So maybe The Great Pyramid was not The Tomb of Osiris but it was sure as heck a gate and a map to it. This is simply an amazing discovery and like all my others will most likely be ignored. More to come:
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 27, 2013 9:09:52 GMT -5
Hi Don, looks marvelous to me. The Ark distance of 3333.82 reminds me of the Masonic Compass, also the Ancient of Days painting by Blake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ancient_of_DaysThank you for the links and global measurements of Dune. I like the center of the Earth called the underworld, but I disagree that it was "the abode of Osiris", which can be found in the underworld I wrote about, but not as an abode per say. Quote "Osiris was the god and chief judge of the underworld. He was also the god of vegetation and the annual Nile flood and was closely associated with death, resurrection and fertility. The ancient Egyptians believed him to be a dead king, a former ruler who had been miraculously restored to life after being murdered by his brother Seth. For this reason he came to symbolize the hope of eternal life that every Egyptian held." If you pardon me, what does this mean to the reader wanting to learn about the Great Egyptian Civilization? Such mode of cut and dry writing causes anyone who mentions the knowledge of the Egyptians to be ridiculed. How can it even be said that "the ancient Egyptians believed him to be a dead king..." and so on. The Great Pyramid as The Tomb of Osiris holds energy only in terms of it being the greatest of Cosmic Symbols. Because Osiris was miraculously restored to life by Isis, Egyptology would say that the ancient Egyptians believed in eternal life, they did, give the Great Pyramid the graceless name "Resurrection Machine", but I like your "gate", an in another sense "a map" to eternal life, not to the tomb of Osiris, but to become Osiris, a god.
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 28, 2013 17:15:54 GMT -5
If I am correct and the ascending and descending passageways are pointing toward the poles then if the top half of the globe is not equal to the bottom half then the angle for any given point will not be equal either. If you will note below here are the angles of the two passageways: Entrance Altitude 32.4 (16.97) 13.92 (7.29) east from centre axis Descending passageTotal length 200.94 (105.23) , 63.95 (33.49) through masonry and 136.99 (71.74) through bedrock Height 2.27 (1.19) Width 2 (1.05) Angle 26° 31' 23"======================================================================= Ascending passageStart in descending passage 53.87 (28.21) from entrance Length 75.02 (39.29) Height 2.29 (1.2) Width at lower end 1.85 (0.97) , at upper end 2.02 (1.06) Angle 26° 2' 30" Since we established that the half way point is no longer correct for an angle then this would explain why the descending passageway is angle 26° 31' 23" and is greater than the ascending passageway of angle 26° 2' 30" because from the point of the angle it is further down to the "equator" than to the "north pole". NOTE: In diagram B is greater than A If The Great Pyramid is a representation of Earth's position on The Planet Earth and is in fact the planet Earth itself and since I have stated that I believe that The Giza Plateau is an exact representation of The Great Pyramid only 5.4 times larger it stands to reason that the entire Giza Plateau must be a representation of Earth as well. It is toward that conclusion that I am working. Here are a couple of preliminary drawings I have come up with. Image below has been changed as the first one was in error. Closer and closer ... we get ... as deeper and deeper we go.
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 28, 2013 20:52:23 GMT -5
Descending passage Total length 200.94 (105.23) , 63.95 (33.49) through masonry and 136.99 (71.74) through bedrock
Height 2.27 (1.19)
Width 2 (1.05)
Angle 26° 31' 23"
Why this angle ?
Why not 26.56505 which is the angle of a 1, by 2 by sq rt of 5 right angled triangle ? Or is this what it was supposed to be ... but if so why is the ascending passageway so far out. Well first things first let's go back to the ascending passageway. Angle 26° 31' 23" in decimal is 26.5230555 degrees. Tan is 0.499084132
Equatorial base(radius) is 6378.137 km x 0.499084132 = 3183.227
An interesting number ... Why ?
Well Pi = 3.1415926536 1/Pi = 0.3183099 x 10,000 = 3183.099
3183.099 / 3183.227 = 99.996 % accurate. So the tan of the angle 26° 31' 23" times the radius of the Earth (6378.137 km) = 1 / Pi x 10,000 to a degree of accuracy of 99.996 %. so is Pi being shown even by the angle of the passageways ? Anyway to be exact we would need:
3183.098862 / 6378.137 = 0.4990640467331
Tan 0.4990640467331 gives an angle of 26.522134180166639356774829916806 = 26° 31' 19.7"
This checks to within 3.3 seconds or 99.9965 %
So were they trying to show us Pi or is this yet another co-incidence at Giza ?
Hmmm could the other one be somehow related to Phi?
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 29, 2013 9:02:34 GMT -5
You know I can't help you with your work, Don, even though I have moved backwards down the wooden planks to the "Pit", it's rough down there with an unnerving feeling of being in the bowels of the earth, and made my way up the very narrow ascending passage, feet on one step, hands two up, semi-crawling, and as if feeling the entire mass of the Pyramid pressing in on body and Mind, until suddenly, one stands upright beholding the Grand Gallery, wholly elated.
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Post by Don Barone on Jul 31, 2013 21:35:05 GMT -5
Although a lot has been collected over several if not tens of threads I thought it might prove fruitful to try to get it all in one thread
The first point I would like to make is that the ratio of Mercury to Earth is PRECISELY 31/12ths that is 2.5833333 x 57,909,004.26 = 149,598,261 kilometers.
1 ------------ = 0.6221710 x 1000 = 622.171 √2.5833333
622.171² = 387096.753241
Now if we allow 622.171 as a diagonal of a square we get as the corresponding sides ... √387096.7742 / 2
= √193548.3871
= 439.94 !!!
Extremely close to the base of The Great Pyramid in cubits.
N = 9069.4 E = 9067.7 S = 9069.5 W = 9068.6 ----------------- Total = 36275.2 inches
36275.2 / 7 = 5182.171428571 / 100 = 51.82171428571
Cosine of angle 51.82171428571 = 0.6181105224 / Phi = 99.98762 (as usual)
To close for Phi exactly we would need Phi angle = 51.827292373 x 100 = 5182.7292373 x 7 = 36279.1 ... ONLY 4 INCHES OUT OR 1 INCH PER SIDE.
36279.1 squared and squared again yields 1731566847495589435 and taking the first 6 numbers we get 1731.57 or very nearly the Giza vertical distance. And to the square root of the speed of light in kilometers is of course our usual 99.987 %
36275.2 / 20.61385 inches per cubit = 1759.7489 / 4 = 439.937 cubits
1.9095821 x Mars - Earth = Earth = Cubit = 20.61385
There is tons of proof from many sources on The Great Pyramid being the planet Earth I think it will be great if we collect it all here.
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Post by Don Barone on Mar 20, 2014 11:09:37 GMT -5
Clive Ross re-visited. Did anyone feel an earthquake that might reawaken a tsunami ? This evening I had a chance to re-read some of Clive's innovative writings and came upon this. Those who knew Clive remember his unshakable belief in a couple of things. One was that not only did the builders of The Pyramids know Pi they knew it in the decimal format and second that the Pyramids were never finished nor were they ever meant to be finished and here is part of why he believed this. We all are familiar with the old formula that the height of P1 equals 4/Pi times 1/2 base (220/2 x 4/Pi = 140 x 1.27324 = 280.11) but here we must deviate from the norm and think as Clive did and suppose for just a minute P1 was never meant to be finished but that it's present height of 262.28 cubits was what was designed. Clive on page 72 of his book: "1o6: The Dawn of Man" suggested quite remarkably that the proof of P1 never having been finished is partly in the fact that like the PROJECTED height of P1 equaling 4/Pi x 1/2 base OF PYRAMID 1 the actual height of 262.28 cubits is derived from the exact same formula BUT THIS TIME WE USE 1/2 THE BASE OF PYRAMID 2 !!! So we have 4/Pi x 1/2 base of P2 (Clive chose 412.00) or 206 x 1.27324 EQUALING 262.287 ... Remarkable. Here is what Clive wrote on Page 72: Math: During the many calculations over the years,, I accidentally calculated the actual height for P1 using it's angle ratio times the width of P2. In other words: The calculated height for P1, if completed, is 4/Pi times half it's base and it's actual height is 4/Pi times half the base of it's neighbor P2. This indicates that the ancients were definitely aware of the 4/pi ratio, and intentionally ceased construction of P1 at the 262.28 cubit level to confirm this ratio. Clive then went on with this showing why the angles of the ascending and descending passageways were what they were. He wrote further: It was mentioned that the interior passageways inside P1 were built to such accuracy for a specific and important reason. The lower passage is built on a 26.23 degree angle and the upper passage at 26.13 degrees. These angles represent the heights for P1 and P2. The passages are built at an angle equal to one tenth the height for P1 and P2 (P1 = 262.287 cubits and P2 = 261.31 cubits) There is more on this page which I will post tomorrow. He knew so much his loss is immeasurable. Clive further suggested on that page that since Pi was so in your face obvious in these monuments that they (The Ancient Builders) were trying to bring our attention to circles (and spheres). His life was dedicated to trying to prove that the circles meant by the builders were the planets. Here is a bit more from page 72 and the next couple of pages: So here we see Clive doing something I never thought to do in all my obsessive calculations and that is to add the actual height of P1 and P2 to their respective angles to come up with the value for (100 times) Pi. he then goes a bit further: This page is the beginning of a startling discovery that Clive touched on but I am not sure he totally understood what he had found or proven. I will expand on that statement a bit later. Above Clive shows that the ratio of a cube to a sphere is pi/6 or 0.5236 (0.52359877559829887307710723054658) but I think he may have missed the fact that this number TIMES 1000 is the number of millimeters in a cubit and was a basis for Nick L and my work on showing how the planets were definitely at Giza. 523.6 mm / 25.4 (mm per inch) = 20.614125 and was later shown to be very much a ratio found in the planetary distances as well. Clive is about to suggest why the ancients made P2 one cubit lower than P1 but I wonder how many of us even realized this was true and in the process re-discovered a very interesting side line to Pythagoras' theorem. However Clive on these pages taught me something new when he showed that the ACTUAL HEIGHTS OF P1 AND P2 WHEN ADDED TOGETHER is equal to pi/6, is equal to millimeters in a cubit, is equal to a ratio found in our solar system. But back to Pythagoras. Clive suggested or discovered the following. So here he is showing us that the total of THE ACTUAL HEIGHTS of P1 and P2 when added together is equal to 10 times more that the angle between the ascending and descending passageways and this in turn is equal to the ratio of a cube to a sphere and lastly that this is also equal to ratio of Mars to Earth from The Sun. This last one is my contribution. Here Clive closes off these thoughts (he would later add greatly to these findings) by writing this on Page 75: What Clive shows us here is simply brilliant. He has taken the heights of P1 and P2 in cubits and divided by 1000 to get 0.28011 and 0.27466 and finding the correct angles by using these as the tan of an angle he comes up with 15.64823407 (for 0.280110) PLUS 15.35849389 (for 0.27466) to come up with 31.00672796 degrees which is unbelievably Pi CUBED !!!His brilliance really knew no bounds and he saw Giza as no other man ever did except maybe Imhotep himself. Lost in all of this is a casual discovery of Clive, actually he calls it a rediscovery that in a right angled triangle if the hypotenuse is 1 unit longer than one side then then remaining side is THE SQUARE ROOT OF THESE TWO NUMBERS !. The example he uses is hypotenuse of 41 side of 40 and side two as square root of 41 + 40 or square root of 81 or 9. There is much more in his book and hopefully I can share it with those who would want to know ... THE TRUTH. Clive gave a fuller description here. amitron2001.tripod.com/Mad_fools/topic_11.htmEdit add: 11, 60, 61 13, 84, 85
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Post by Charlotte on Mar 21, 2014 8:41:19 GMT -5
Good to see your smiling face, Don. Though not in numbers, I can easily "imagine that these people having such knowledge", by their words, paintings, and deeds, yet, the same old is told and shown to people and taught in school, my Daughter is a Teacher, but such is the way of the learning curve. For those who look further, it must be pretty obvious by now why did they built the Pyramids to begin with, their stupendous Temples, sublime chambers in the Valley of the Kings, sacred as I perceived/felt them, just as an eternal atmosphere pervades the Giza Plateau, Holy Ground, trampled upon by commericialism. As I said before, standing before the Great Pyramid, the utterly stunned Mind is crushed by "the pile of stones", and the Architects say "Greetings, Seeker of Knowledge, we built this Monument for you, to preserve Knowledge of Heaven and Earth, so that you may also become a King of your Empire. This I believe By the way, I thought of you when posting the Byrd's song cause I know you like it as well Oh I'd rather go and journey Where the diamond crescent's glowing and Run across the valley Beneath the sacred mountain And wander through the forest Where the trees have leaves of prisms That no one knows the names of ... Cheers Don Charlotte
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