Consulting NASA: Getting a professional opinion on

[Don Barone]

Consulting NASA: Getting a professional opinion on my gravity discoveries:

Copy of letters so far exchanged discussing my gravity discoveries ...


Hi Dave ...

It is so great of you to respond and give me your opinion. I honestly can't thank you enough.

I have used 20.Phi or 20.618033988 inches ... as my cubit and if we divide by 28 we get ... 0.73635835674 of an inch or 1.87 cm

I have used for gravity on Mars 3.74067 m/sec 2 (3.74066816382) which is, from my research, more than acceptable for the force of gravity on Mars.

hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/JahshirahRossi.shtml

100 cubits = 3.5714285 cubits

1 cubit = 20.Phi or (sine of 18 degrees x 2) + 20 or 20.618033988749894848204586834366

3.5714285 x 20.618033988749894848204586834366 = 73.63583567411 inches

73.63583567411 / 39.3700787 (inches in a meter - old way) and we get 1.8703502280300317153875259948606

1.8703502280300317153875259948606 x 2 = 3.7407004561 m/sec 2

But it gets much more interesting than that ...

Mercury has the same gravity as Mars ... Now isn't that just great Mars and Mercury are gravitational twin brothers !

Teeedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee ?

But again it gets better still.

On The Giza Plateau I have "guessed" that the gravitational force is 9.79317 m/sec sqrd - I arrived at this number partly from insite and partly from knowing that on Earth the gravitational force can be somewhere between 9.78 and 9.81 and changes according to latitude and away from the equator and using a very rough formula I devised I managed to get the figure I have of 9.79317 on The Giza Plateau and is of course where The Great Pyramid is and of course the other two are as well.

Now to most people (probably including you) this is a meaningless number but it is profound beyond measure for within this number is perhaps the beginning of an understanding of our solar system that up to this point has been ignored or maybe simply forgotten. If we do the math on this we find the following:

9.79317 m/s²

9.79317 m/s² = 385.56481012479 inches ( 9.79317 x 39.3700787)

385.56481012479 / 20.618033988749894848204586834366 = 18.700367374269103413920633926052

18.700367374269103413920633926052 / 2 = 9.3501836871345517069603169630261 cubits in one second.

This gives us. and I do hope you can see the unfolding beauty of this ... we get ---

9.3501836871345517069603169630261 x 28 (28 digits per cubit) and we get 261.8034 or

That's right Dave we get Phi squared x 100 digits.

So as a recap on Mars and Mercury an object falls 100 Egyptian digits in one second and on Earth an object falls 261.80339887498948482045868343656 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second. Now what do you think the odds of that are ?

And before you think me quite mad (and there is still more to tell and explain to you) I would like you to have a look at this image which might explain how it is all possible ... donbarone.selfip.net/final_merc_venus_Earth_Mars_ratio_08_720.png

Please let me know what you think.

Cheers and best regards
Don Barone

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Williams
To: TheBaronies
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Gravity on Jupiter


Don,
No, I didn't know that, so I take it an ancient Egyptian digit is about 1.86 cm, or about 0.74 inches?
Dave




On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:11 AM, TheBaronies wrote:


Hi Dave and thanks again for the response.

To get us started did you know that [somewhere] on Mars an object falls precisely at 100 ancient Egyptian digits in one second ?

Cheers
Don Barone
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Williams
To: TheBaronies
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Gravity on Jupiter


Don,
I'll be happy to take a look at it, but the problem with assigning a precise gravity to a gas giant planet is that you can get almost any answer you want just by going deeper into the atmosphere. The 1 bar reference used is very artificial, it is just used to match the Earth's sea level pressure. And of course even on Earth the gravity varies from the equator to the poles, so these numbers are not really precise in that way.
Dave




On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:51 AM, TheBaronies wrote:


Dear Dr. Williams

Thank you ever so much for this information. .

I am presently working on a theory of gravity ( I know pretty heavy for a grade 12 drop-out - I am 59 ) and in order for it to work much better I need the gravity on Jupiter to equal 23.118 . Now that you have allowed the possibility that that measurement could be correct somewhere on Jupiter I am prepared to post it in a little more detail. Would you be interested in reading it as a sort of critique. I would very much appreciate getting a professional opinion on my thoughts.

It is not so much a theory of what gravity is but how and why gravity follows the distances it does and who might have known this in the past.

yours truly
Don Barone
11:49 AM EST November 2nd, 2009
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Williams
To: TheBaronies
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Gravity on Jupiter


Don,
The value for gravity is the actual value of gravity alone as measured at the surface, basically just the standard GM/r**2. The acceleration includes the fact that Jupiter is rotating, which adds an outward centripetal force which counteracts gravity slightly and makes something at the Jupiter equator rotating with the planet "weigh" slightly less. We have the same thing on Earth, but the effect is much smaller because Jupiter spins so much faster and is so much larger.
Dave


On Nov 1, 2009, at 10:52 PM, TheBaronies wrote:


Dear Sir:

On a website on Jupiter from NASA I found the following data. nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/jupiterfact.html

Gravity (eq., 1 bar) (m/s2) 24.79
Acceleration (eq., 1 bar) (m/s2) 23.12

I was wondering if you could explain the difference to me between them and which is the correct one I can use for gravity on Jupiter.

Is 23.12 correct ? What does this 23.12 refer to ?

Yours sincerely
Don Barone
November 1st, 2009 @ 10:51 EST





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[Charlotte]

Hi Don,

Your planetary research is most interesting. Maybe your Enthusiasm will have NASA firing rockets to all the Planets. They're all excited about having found 24 gallons of water on the Moon, if decontaminated it could be drinking water, said the Spokesman. Why we would want to go back with the idea of colonizing the Moon is beyond me. I heard that financing NASA missions is not a priority on our President's lists, overwhelmed as He is just trying to get traction to stabilize the earth against tremendous resistance etc., etc....

Please say hallo and best wishes to Carol and Daughters.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

As far as I know this is all groundbreaking work.

Well I have waited patiently but it seems either my NASA scientist has rushed my findings to The White House (presently about a bazillion to one shot) or he has deleted the email I sent him as spam (about 50/50) or he has simply been too busy to read it (wishful thinking), regardless we shall press onward.

In earlier posts I have shown that the rate of gravity on Mars would equal 100 Ancient Egyptian digits in a second. That is on Mars an object would fall 100 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second. Here is what NASA had to say on that one. The name has been left out to protect the innocent.

... Hi [deleted] and thanks again for the response.

To get us started did you know that [somewhere] on Mars an object falls precisely at 100 ancient Egyptian digits in one second ?

Don,
No, I didn't know that, so I take it an ancient Egyptian digit is about 1.86 cm, or about 0.74 inches?

[deleted]

100 digits = 3.571428 cubits

= 73.6358 inches ( multiplied by 20.Phi)

= .736 of an inch (NASA or about 0.74 inches )

= 1.87035 meters (NASA or about 1.86 centimeters)

Well what is even more interesting is that Mercury has THE SAME GRAVITY as Mars. Yes that is correct they are gravitational twin brothers, sort of the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of gravity.

So let's recap for now.

Mercury's gravity (Tweedledum) = 100 digits per second

Earth (as we found on another thread) = 261.8034 digits per second (Phi squared x 100)

Next up is Mars who being Tweedledee I guess is also equal to 100 digits

We also found that The Sun is 28 times stronger than Earth and has a gravitational force remarkably equal to 261.8034 CUBITS

But it gets better yet.

A lot of people ignore Ceres but in My Solar System Ceres is the hub, the central point of it all shall we say and remarkably here is what the gravitational force is on Ceres:

Equatorial surface gravity 0.27 m/s² 0.028 g

Or 1/1000th EXACTLY, I mean can you believe it ? Exactly 1/1000th of the gravity on The Sun which is: Equatorial surface gravity 274.0 m/s2 27.94 g 28 × Earth

So Ceres = .2618034 cubits or 5.4 inches

Remarkable !!!

But the last one was the toughest because it did not seem to fit.

I could not seem to fit in Jupiter and I felt it had to fit as Jupiter was at the top of the god chain and it just had to work but every time I tried to figure the gravity out on Jupiter it came to close, but not close enough to what I felt it should be given all the others fitting with Phi so perfectly and that's why I turned to NASA.

On most sites the gravity on Jupiter is given as:

Equatorial surface gravity = 24.79 m/s² = 2.528 g

and then on a NASA site I saw the gravitational rotation (this is the force of gravity figuring in the rotational speed of the planet) was 23.12 m/s² See here: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/jupiterfact.html

According to my calculation I need the gravity on Jupiter to equal 23.118 m/s² and here is why ...

If we use 23.118 m/s² we get, unbelievably again, we get ... 618.034 digits per second of free fall on Jupiter in one second which is of course 1/Phi times 1000

So as a final re-cap we have

Gravity:

The Sun = 261.8034 cubits per second

Mercury = 100 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second

Earth = 261.8034 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second

Mars = 100 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second

Ceres = 0.2618034 cubits per second

and finally now we have Jupiter at 618.034 Ancient Egyptian digits in one second

Now you must admit if God isn't Phi AND AN EGYPTIAN he damn well should be !

Praise Phi



and just a note on the symbol the Ancient Greeks used.

The bar in the middle is in the golden ratio to the diameter of the circle.

Now I wonder why they don't teach this in the hallowed halls of academia.

cheers
Don Barone