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Post by Don Barone on May 28, 2008 18:13:08 GMT -5
Hi all ... Well here goes. I think this may be the final journey here at Giza. I think once we have exhausted all we come across here we will finally have it figured out. What was meant at Giza ... how it was encoded and I think Charlotte will honestly be able to tie it into her quantum mechanic schematic as well. Here is part of a posting to Rob Miller over at Graham's. It tells it as well as I can. As you can see I have decided to start it here on friendly turf .  Firstly I will explain what has happened .. yet again. My mind was quite simply put, a puddle of mush. I could see nothing, think of nothing, had no new ideas and was for all intents and purposes to various discussion groups, in a vegetative state. And then ... C. Wayne Taylor over at Ma'at posted that he thought he had cracked the code at Giza and after giving him profuse congratulations someone or something once again lit the pilot light within me and here we go again. Hang on for it is usually a whirlwind of a ride.  I honestly don't know where to begin as it encompasses so much but I think this is a good one. Actually I am going to post all four images I have already posted over at Graham's to get this thread up to speed. This first one is a simple addition of two numbers but what they reveal could be Earth changing ... I am shocked about how little response some of these have gotten --- compared to the hype of a very weak OCT theory. Anyway no stone throwing now Don and now for something completely new ... I think. Diagram one ... a simple addition a + b = WOW !!! Orbital time of one Earth rotation is 365.24 Orbital time of Mars rotation in Earth days is 686.98 Total of these two = 1052.22 and now for something completely different. Again please be aware this is Clive Ross' work.  and this from Wayne Taylor who by the way was THE ONLY ONE who would commit to an answer on the widths. Maybe they knew I was going to bop them with more numerology Re: Height and widths of Pyramids at Giza
Posted by: C Wayne Taylor (IP Logged)
Date: May 23, 2008 11:52AM
G1
Cole's average base = 230.364m
in/m = 39.370079
Cole's average base = 9069.439in
G2
Petrie's average base = 8474.875in
G3
Petrie's average base = 4153.633in
The distance in cubits depends on what cubit value you use.
If G1 = 440, then cubit = 20.612
Then, G2 = 411.155
And, G3 = 201.512
If cubit = 20.632,
then G1 = 439.581
And G2 = 410.764
And G3 = 201.320
Which values you use depends on your starting assumptions and analytic methods.So were we to use 20.618033988 (20 + Phi) we would get: G1 = 9069.439in / 20.618033988 = 439.8788 G2 = 8474.875in / 20.618033988 = 411.0419 G3 = 4153.633in / 20.618033988 = 201.4560 ------------------------------------------------------------- Total = ...................... = 1052.38 Close to within .16 of a cubit or 3 inches over the width of the three pyramids so that is about an inch per pyramid but since there are two sides we are out about a half an inch each side. Accurate enough for me. Another thing that is almost impossible is getting the other side to commit to a side length so finally I have come up with what I consider are correct ... for now G1 = 439.88 cubits
G2 = 411.04 cubits
G3 = 201.46 cubits (subject to possible revision) Now if we use 411.04 as the side length for G2 we get this astounding correlation:  Pretty neat eh .. ? Anyway moving on. This image does not agree with what Clive found as we are for the moment using different east-west measurements but I hope to tie them in soon. Anyway I kind of enjoyed this one as well.  And to close this evening's post I will leave you with one of mine which I found last year but for some reason did not see the amazing correlation in what I had found. I mentioned it on my diagram but it did not sink in how marvelloussly delicious it was. I am not sure if this shows they had a sense of humour or not ...  Anyway that is it for tonight but rest assured tomorrow's spot will blow you way as I still can't believe what I discovered by playing around with Clive's numbers and diagrams. Stay tooned !  Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 28, 2008 20:38:02 GMT -5
Hi all ... What I am going to post below is as far as I know not common knowledge in fact I have never seen it posted anywhere but that is not to say it doesn't sit in someone's desk drawer somewhere. so I will just call it ... "Breaking news", yes I like that. Breaking news at Giza. Okay I have to emphasize that this next little bit is totally inspired by Clive Ross and his diagrams which I will post a little later. I am uncertain whether he found this as well but again as I say I have never seen any images such as these posted anywhere. To put it simply I was stuck in the box or rather should I say the rectangle of Giza that sqaure root of 2 by square root of 3 rectangle that is Giza and is shown below.  And now for reasons which I shall show you later I managed to step out of the rectangle and into, well er .... into THE BOX ! I show this below ...  What you don't see a box ? Well let me draw it in for you. Now on this diagram which will become readily apparent after I post Clive's images I decided to draw a N-S line using the east side of G2 as the point. Observe ...  At the midpoint between the horizontal red lines I drew another horizontal green line and labelled points "A" and "B" as I show below ....  With radius AB I drew a circle ...  And now for the fun part. This blew me away. I would have never guessed ... Drawing simple tangents can be so ... so ... revealing at times ...  And now for the finale ...  Tying in perfectly (although measurements have to be physically checked first I am certain it will be accurate). We have finally found indisputable proof of the geometric relationship of the "Queens' Pyramids to the rest of The Giza Plateau and they are enclosed by a square with sides equalling square root of 3 x's 1000 .... or is this correct. Can this 1732.46 have a different relationship ? Have a look at the "new" Giza Square. I am sure there will be all sorts of interesting things come out of this diagram.  Please join me next time as we dig deeper and deeper into Giza's secrets. cheers Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 28, 2008 22:36:19 GMT -5
Hi all I just had to add one more image this evening. I was just looking at an old image I had worked on on something else at Giza at then a bell went off and I thought I would try something. Observe as we add to our image "The Chase Line" Just Beautiful !  And showing both diagonals ...  cheers Don Barone |
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Post by Charlotte on May 29, 2008 7:43:59 GMT -5
See, Don, the drama didn't last long You found another job and are having fun "My" quantum mechanics at Giza? It's like your geometry, or number, anyway you look at it the phenomenal universe moves as a unit. Everything else is academic, they say. Did "they" have a sense of humor? The wisest people have the greatest sense of humor because they comprehend the tragic, comic, and magic, again, that's why the Buddha laughs, and those teachers who spontaneously break out and into "uncontrollable laughter" (Gurdjieff) at their own words trying to explain the unexplainable. I'll be reading and maybe I'll get an AHA of what you are showing one of these days, meanwhile I go Treasure hunting. Good luck to both of us Charlotte |
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Post by Don Barone on May 29, 2008 8:19:47 GMT -5
Good morning all. The following are Clive Ross' discoveries and in my opinion are monumental in the quest to understand Giza. Again I am not sure where to start but I will start by saying that there are 6 queen's pyramids at Giza. Three east of G1 and 3 south of G3. Now what I had never really noticed but Clive was kind enough to point out to me is that they are not all the same. The G3 satellite pyramids are made up of 2 step pyramids and one regular pyramid while G1 has 2 regular pyramids and one step pyramid. Even then I said so what. Before we go on let's re-establish the distances E-W and N-S here at Giza. Our east-west distance is, as per Petrie, 1417.44 cubits and our N-S distance is 1731.98 cubits. Now further to this I would like to remind all that G3 is not square to e-w but is in fact deflected southward by about .28 degrees. ( I thought I was unique in approaching it from this angle but I now see Clive was already there years ago) If we project the line along the deflection angel 1417.44 cubits eastward we get a difference at the east side of G1 of (Tan of 0.28 degrees x's 1417.44 = 0.004886960809121380567029965192594 x's 1417.44 = 6.93 cubits. So the actual length at the east side of G1 using the deflection angle extended is 1731.98 + 6.93 = 1738.91. Here is a quick diagram, not to scale to show what I mean ...  Clive has fine tuned this measurement further and gets for his new N-S distance - 1739.45 so the average between us would be --- 1739.18 cubits. And now for the fun part ... As you recall at G3 I mentioned there were three queen's pyramids. Two step pyramids and one regular one. See image below:  And east of G1 are these three pyramids:  So where does that leave us ... well let's go back to one Earth orbit plus one Mars orbit equalling 1052.22 and equalling the length of the 3 sides of the pyramids added together. Can we find a possible reference within the queen's pyramids. Well remember there were two step and one regular at G3. What would happen if we used them to represent Mars and Earth, let's make the two small step pyramids represent Earth and the large regular one be Mars and let's do some simple addition. We would have 365.24 + 365.24 + 686.98 and this would give us ... 1417.46. NOW WAIT A MINUTE WAS THAT NOT THE DISTANCE EAST-WEST AT GIZA ? Well yeah it was. Awesome eh ... ? And how about north - south what would that yield. Well this time we are going to have two Mars and one Earth and we get ... 686.98 + 686.98 + 365.24 = 1739.20 and unbelieveably this equals virtually exactly (to within .02 of a cubit) the distance North - South when adjusted for the deflection angle of G3. Was this the reason it was offset ? Well it's the best guess I have heard so far ! Here is the image from Clive and some closing comments by him.  ... Illustration 20. The blue (365.26) and red (686.98) circles within the squares represent the orbital periods for Earth and Mars. They are set in accordance to the building format used for the two sets of small pyramids adjacent to P1 and P3.
The north-west limit of the three pyramids (1739.45Rc) has a numerical distance equal to two orbits of Mars plus one orbit of Earth (2 x 686.98) + (1 x 365.26) = 1739.22 days. While the east-west direction (1417.69Rc) has a numerical distance equal to the reverse combination of the same numbers: one orbit of Mars and two orbits of Earth (1 x 686.98) + (2 x 365.26) = 1417.49 days.
Important notice:
Illustration #20 demonstrates the N-S and E-W measures being identical to the combination of two planet’s orbital periods. The measures are only true when referenced to the +0.28 degrees azimuth of P3’s east-west axis, another possible reason why this pyramid was rotated slightly clockwise from Earth’s cardinal directions.
In summary of illustrations #19 and #20:
The total vertical and horizontal distance is equal to (1739.45 + 1417.69) = 3157.14Rc.
Three times the total widths of the three large pyramids (3 x 1052.24) = 3157.71Rc.
The total count of days for three orbits of Earth and Mars equals 3156.7 days.
The measures cannot be doubted; they are intentional; they are set by design.
These primary numbers were selected above all other measures at the site; they represent the beginning of the designer’s story.
The simple orbital ratio and day-count between Earth and our neighbor Mars is written in basic mathematical format for us to read at a glance.
Like a family, each of our sibling planets has its individual characteristics and identity. We must understand and become truly aware of their intricacies as they travel through our time…our space. We must also relearn nature’s ways before we forget completely.
These are the prerequisites, allowing us to continue and envision the legacies as told within the laborious works of our ancients at Giza. And now I think it is time for a movie. ... [flv]GIZA_FULL[/flv] Amen ... We are still sitting at the tip of the iceberg in relation to what Clive has found. Or if we agree that it is a book ... of Astronomy OR The Book of Knowledge we have simply read The Prologue. Some of it I don't understand completely and much of what he has discovered has not even been revealed by him yet. He works very much like Mark Harlem (Karl Hammer) in that rather than just give you the answer he tries to get you to do some of the work yourself. Sometimes it is rewarding other times it is just plain damn frustrating but it is never dull. Over the last couple of years he has given bits of information out over at Ma'at and like most things with that crowd it was simply just one co-incidence after another. But this is just not so. Giza is, and always has been ... A Book of Astronomy but ... and I do not believe Clive has visited this dark place yet ... why ? My daughter, third year university majoring in Ancient History says to me ... "Dad, very, very interesting; but why ? " Yes why indeed. Why spend so much energy to tell us about Mars and Earth ... unless hidden within this complex is a calender as well, and on this calender is marked by positioning of the planets at a certain time ... our beginning ... OR OUR END ! And at this time I mention that Clive earlier this year did not want his work to be discussed in open forum for the reason that he felt that it should all come out at once and be so monumental and in depth and accurate and foolproof and be all encompassing in scope as to be absolutely irrefutable. To this end I would agree with him but I am not nor ever have been a patient man and so I just felt, within me, that now was the time to start the discussion. I hope I am not thought badly of by him. The video I am not sure if I should show it but it is so well done that words alone could not so well describe the opening volley of this study and so I have posted it hoping again that no one is offended or angered. Whenever using an image from Clive I have been careful to place a copyright text in the background of the image. Please join the discussion and offer what you are able to for as the wise pharaohs of Egypt said ... take consul with all, for we can learn from anyone. And in conclusion, if this study is correct, and I fully believe that it is, I want you to think long and hard on the why of it, for that is now the mystery. Not what any longer ... but why ? Regards Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 29, 2008 18:18:03 GMT -5
Hmmmm .....  How I wish I could get hold of an accurate image of The Giza Plateau ...  Every map I try yields a different result. However they always yield interesting sidelines ...  Best Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 30, 2008 0:59:32 GMT -5
Hi all a bit of a set back there with it looking like it is not the east side of G2 when we use The Giza Mapping Project Map however I am going to see if I can dig up some actual measurements to these satellite pyramids. Regardless for now let us move on. Scott's recent work involved an angle 43 degrees and 47 degrees so I decided to see what else I could find and so I was fooling around dividing 440 by 411.2 and noticed that lo and behold it gave me the tan of, not exactly 43 degrees but 43.06 degrees. Pretty close I thought. Next I was looking at his image and decided to divide a couple of other measurements (which you will see on the diagram below) and lo and behold this gave me virtually the same tan and angle. I found that most interesting and then while studying Clive Ross' pages he gave me an even better in your face ratio that also gave us the same ratio. I found this stunning and again I was amazed that Giza could continue to yield up secrets to me and others when I was convicned I had it studied so thoroughly. Please enjoy today's diagram. And please someone, anyone ... comments ?  The actual ratios realized were for: 895.56/836.42 = 1.0707061045886038114822696731307 439.88/411.04 = 1.0701634877384196185286103542234 1512.00/1411.25 = 1.0713906111603188662533215234721 Now while looking at these figures I couldn't help but notice that they were awfully close to a number I had seen on numerous occassions and that would be the sine of my favourite number and in my opinion it was the original angle and this was the original sin(e) = 0.70710678118654752440084436210485So if you ask me I think the ratios are telling us to study sine 45 more closely and the actual ratio in this overall plan here on the plateau at Giza just has to be ... 1.070710678118654752440084436210485And for this to be random goes way beyond the bounds of even the weakest definiton of the word. This is no co-incidence folks. Giza was planned, as Clive says from start to finish in the most minute detail before the first stone was ever cut from a quarry. Cheers untill next time Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 30, 2008 8:29:27 GMT -5
Good morning folks and welcome back. The following is 100% Clive Ross' work. Admittedly I have fine tuned some of his measurements to which he may be 100% against but the idea and basically everything else is strictly his idea and inspiration. Sometimes I find he allows too much latitude in exactness where I am always searching for things at this site to be exact for it is, in my opinion the greatest feat of building and engineering this planet will ever see and thus I think that no expense and manpower was spared to make it as exact as is "humanly" possible. where Clive may allow the closest 1/100th I am always searching for maybe the closest 1/10,000th's. Regardless I will post my analysis of his work and then as always I will post his diagram. And just as a note here the reason I am doing it this way, emphasizing every individual bit of information and ratios, is I feel that although common knowledge to Clive after he has worked on it for these many years I think sometimes he forgets the magnitude of each of the pieces of his puzzle. I feel that he tends to skim over things that I find absolutely amazing and should have a page on it's own. With this in mind I am trying to emphasize these sorts of things before sending you on to read his web pages for yourself. Okay now onto another of Clive's discoveries. I will in this case simply post the image for they are self explantory.  And then this one. Here we are going to bring in a new player into the game ...  And as promised here is Clive's image:  So what is going on here at Giza ? Well in my opinion we are being told a story of our solar system. But something is still bugging me about all that. Surely the builders must have realized that by the time we reached the stage in our civilization to be able to understand this encoding then we would already know all they were showing us. So for heaven's sake why build it at all ? With this in mind I still am convinced that somewhere, within all these orbits and measurements and such is an answer to this riddle. Why build something that would be common knowledge by the time it was able to be de-coded ? So therefore it must be a timestamp of our solar system at a particular age and I still remain convinced, that like The Wood Pentagram and David Wood's discoveries at Rennes le Chateau it is a warning and the date we should be aware of is hidden within it all. How to find it ? Hmmm ... haven't a clue at this present time but we have made a beginning but I sense we may be running out of time. With Respect Don Barone |
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Post by Charlotte on May 30, 2008 9:20:28 GMT -5
Hi Don, All very interesting and inspiring. If planets are meant, is this why the "solar" boats are by the Queen's Pyramids? The boats themselves being the planets sailing in the sky? Nobody could think that the Egyptians sailed in wooden boats through the solar system Why did they do all this, recording some of what they knew in stone? To last long enough for posterity to figure out, their "priests" being teachers of, and guiding humanity, not a self-aggrandizing elite group inventing systems, myths, and "cults" according to their fancy, one intent of outdoing the other. This brings us to the other "why" Hermes Man was made to contemplate the universe in awe and wonder and come to know its maker. My philosophy teacher: We need to become whole. The need for wholeness outstrips every other consideration." The end and beginning, and my quantum physics contribution, in poetry Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Fortieth Anniversary Celebration Stanford, California October 2, 2002 Remarks John Marburger Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy Executive Office of the President "To begin the serious side of my remarks this evening, here are some words that seem appropriate to the state of fundamental physics as we enter the 21st century: "We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, remembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was in the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the apple-tree Not known, because not looked for But heard, half-heard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always - And condition of complete simplicity (Coasting not less than everything) And all shall be well When the tongues of flame are in-folded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one." "These closing lines of the fourth of T.S. Eliot's "Four Quartets" illustrate poetry's awesome evocative power. The language of poetry, especially T.S. Eliot's poetry, strikes resonances because its abstract manner and expression casts a broad note. The concrete words and subject matter are carefully chosen to awaken our perception of broad themes that reach beyond the narrative of the poem." Mr. Marburger heard "these particular lines" spoken by Thomas Cottrell, and says: "They moved me so much that when it was my turn to speak, I put aside my notes and talked about the extraordinary convergence of particle physics and astronomy that was emerging. The idea that somehow the end of the great reductionist adventure would be "to arrive where we started/And know the place for the first time" seemed to capture a vision of the future course of fundamental science." "The truth is that particle physics is as exciting as it ever was. It is not dead. The fact that we are having trouble seeing beyond the Standard Model is not bad news. It means that the next discoveries will have a disproportionate impact on our understanding of Nature. For the first time in a quarter-century experiment is driving theory at the fronties, and not the other way around. "The truth is that Nature functions in such a way as to bring together the science of the very large with the science of the very small, and that opportunities have emerged for discovery about the fundamental nature of the universe that we never expected. Technology places these discoveries within our reach, but we need to focus efforts across widely seperated disciplines to realize the new opportunities." Indeed, and this widely seperated disciplines include philosophy and poetry, theological teachings: "know ye not that the end is the beginning?", and the wisdom of the Ancients. Mr. Marburger is a scientist philosopher after mine own heart, allowing for poetry, "the highest wisdom, pleasure, virtue and glory", it being "at once the centre and circumference of knowledge - and to that which all science must be referred." Shelley. When we arrive at our beginning and see the place for the first time, we'll make a quantum leap analogous to an ant seeing a splash caused by all the mountains of our planet piled up as one falling into the oceans as one, and then begin again et infinitum until we as one humanity reach Buddhahood, a self-conscious humanity knowing not it is self-conscious, just like a photon/light doesn't "know" itself, but consciously shines. Something like that. That's why Charlotte |
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Post by Don Barone on May 30, 2008 10:28:15 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. A marvellous post as always and sometimes your prose really moves me deeply. And now you mentioned this several times ... ... When we arrive at our beginning and see the place for the first time, ... Zep Tepi perhaps ? Yes for in the beginning all was known and all was as one ... and then chaos set it and the universe, as is my mind after the Kundalini, striving to recapture this moment and return to it again. Yes indeed marvellously simple but so awe inspiring From Zep Tepi to Zep Tepi ... the ultimate and final journey ... Thanks ever so much Charlotte Don Barone |
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Post by BERNHARD on May 30, 2008 10:56:54 GMT -5
Dear DON, Charlotte, Daz and Others,
i really do wish, that the new robot-explorations, planned for the QC-shafts in the GP, with robots not being constructed by the Singapore/Hongkong-teams i still mentioned some times ago, but by two new Teams from the USA and the UK, will have a breakthrough to other areas of the GP (CHUFU/Cheops) , providing some still hidden chambers with the documents, enscripted and written by the old architects themselfs. Imagine, such an outstanding knowledge from exact that time, or even the material of alien teachers. Worth more than any pharaonic Gold !!
All can happen, why not !
In this case, it would became an extraordinary feeling and experience for DON, to compare his GIZA-ideas and workout with that of the old intelligent guys. Ok, not to forget the other parts of knowledge by Others, Don himself could use or bring in as well.
Probably the new robot-tests were still done during the first months of this year, or they (SCA) plan to start in coming november !
There will be an competition between the two teams , and the winner will start this QC-shafts-"production-race", will say, will have the honor to send his robot into the North/South-shafts of the QC, intending to break through the two stone-labs at the end ( the final small doors), thus looking for a probable new area in the big pyramid !
P.s.: Actually they are searching north of Merenptah Tomb KV8 in the KoV for a new tomb. The story is real hot, cause they are now using an high-tech GPRS-equipment, capable to penetrate up to 20m in depth via radar-system.
I believe, the same ground-radar-component will be used soon to expöore the assumed KV64-position ( near KV62 and KV63 )
From time to time i will visit You !
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Greetings to All !
Best regards: Bernie
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Post by Don Barone on May 30, 2008 15:16:03 GMT -5
Hi Bernhard and welcome. Hope you enjoy the direction of this thread and feel free to offer when you can. And now a duplicate post from over at Graham Hancock's where we seem to be crossing paths again with other research as we always seem to do on one of these think tanks. Here is the post: Hi again spacey ...
5000 ? If you take the square root of it and divide by 1000 you are left with 1/2 sq root of 2 or Sine of 45 degrees: 0.070710678118654752440084436210485 add 1 and divide it into 5000 and you get ... 4669.7955873434434550749525818569
And now looking at this diagram of Clive's another ratio may be showing itself. This is extremely interesting ...
Rather than 46698 Clive gets 46669 inches. Now 46669 divided into 50000 = 1.0713750026784375066960937667402
And doesn't 1512.00 (distance N-S at Giza) divided by 1411.25 (distance at Giza: See my message board for a full explanation) yield and give us:
1.0713906111603188662533215234721
Number of inches confirming number of cubits
And all this checking to within 2/100,000ths
Utterly and unbelieveably amazing !!!
Now isn't this a whole lot more interesting and exciting than dropping three rocks on the ground ?
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Post by Don Barone on May 30, 2008 17:31:46 GMT -5
Hi all ... This next one is the one that really started me to study Clive's work after I received it from Clive. All the other things I have shown are miraculous but this next one is ... well I really don't know quite how to explain it as it is perhaps the most marvellous "co-incidence" of them all. So that being said I think it is just best that I let Clive's website tell the story. Here it is: www.wsville.com/clive-ross-giza/Giza/08-Norsouth_files/frame.htm and oh yeah make sure you have the volume turned on as their is a voice narrative that goes along with the slide presentation Cheers Don Barone |
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Post by Don Barone on May 31, 2008 7:43:25 GMT -5
Good morning everyone. Well just two days to go and then I will offline from June 2nd to June 9th as I go to Toronto for a week to train for my new job. Hopefully when return I will not have completely lost my train of thought.
Anyway here is just a little something interesting as I work on my next presentation. ( Please note this is completely inspired and is virtually a copy of some of the work Clive Ross has performed)
Reciprical of 1.23456789 is 0.81000000737100006707610061039252
Add 18 and we get 18.810000007371000067076100610393
18.81 ? The reciprical of .81 is .... 1.2345679012345679012345679012346
Now let's multiply this by the orbital time of our Earth in days and we get 365.24 x 18.810000007371000067076100610393 = 6870.1644026921840644988749869398
Okay keeping The Mars - Earth theme let's divide this number by the orbital period of Mars in Earth days and we get: 6870.1644026921840644988749869398 / 686.98 and we get ...
10.000530441486191831638293672217
Exactly 10 to within 5/10,000ths.
Now wouldn't it be interesting if I could find this relationship at Giza ?
cheers
Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on May 31, 2008 10:06:28 GMT -5
Okay ...
I'm back from driving wifey around and let's analize this further. We had already known that the ratio of the orbital relationships between Earth and Mars was 1.881 + or - but what we had not noted was that was the recipical of 1.23456789 PLUS 18 = 18.81000000737100006707610061039252 while if we use 1.2345678901234567890123456789 repeating ad infintum we get EXACTLY 0.81 or 10 squared divided by 9 squared
Okay let's try this: 1.234567879 x Pi = 3.8785094135818519639450924855178
So ?
Okay now we will reciprical it: 0.25783101015513263635729868751489
So ?
Okay now we will multiply by 10,000 (just to get a workable figure that will relate to the size of the Giza Plateau): 2578.3101015513263635729868751489
So ?
Okay now let's find the circumference of a circle with this as a radius: 2 x Pi x radius gives us: 16200.0002 ... Phi correct to hundreths (1.62 - not close enough for me and as a decimal = 0.61728395061728395061728395061728 or within .00075 of Phi). I think it is most noteworthy to consider that this has led us to a whole number correct to 2/10,000ths.
and now we have 162000 = .81 times 200000.0002469 or really for all intents and purposes = 200,000 times 0.81 = 162,000 Can't help but feel there is a solution to the squaring of the circle in here somewhere. Perhaps Giza and The Solar System circle the square with sides of 40500 (162000 / 4) or it's multiples. All in all a most fascinating little geometric diversion and one I think I must devote more time to however it is more than strange that all of this is found ... AT GIZA !!!
All in all extremely interesting and begs the question did "The Creator" or "Omnipotent Thing" which created the universe have a sense of humour and deliberately encode this 1.23456789 game into the ratio of Mars and Earth to draw our attention to it for some reason ? and did "IT" as a diversion also encode the formula for squaring of the circle or really more appropriately circling the square in our Solar System in the ratio of Mars to The Earth ? Regardless it would appear the builders of Giza certainly knew all about it.
Cheers
Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on May 31, 2008 10:18:28 GMT -5
And ...
Isn't the distance ratio from The Sun between Mars and Earth not .......
1.62 AU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scary !
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Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on May 31, 2008 10:59:56 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte. A marvellous post as always and sometimes your prose really moves me deeply. And now you mentioned this several times ... ... When we arrive at our beginning and see the place for the first time, ... Zep Tepi perhaps ? Yes for in the beginning all was known and all was as one ... and then chaos set it and the universe, as is my mind after the Kundalini, striving to recapture this moment and return to it again. Yes indeed marvellously simple but so awe inspiring From Zep Tepi to Zep Tepi ... the ultimate and final journey ... Thanks ever so much Charlotte Don Barone The first lines of the poem is quoted quite often because people sense truth in it, methinks, and I love Mr. Marburger's outlook - feeling affinity with it. From what I read, scholars agree more or less that Zep Tepi was about 10 to 12,000 years ago, so it would be nice to survive and go back to this beginning, problem is that nobody would be there alive to teach us the ropes, but "they" unraveled "The Knot who is within yesterday" (Book of coming forth by Day), and the cord streches to us like a learning-life-line. To mind come Mr. Hall's words, "we were them then and we are them now", so it is quiet possible that some of "them" are with us now. I think of "the ultimate and final journey" as from light to light, from our star to our star, and see it for the first time (anew)with increased conscious awareness, which naturally makes it shine brighter. Why else would Pharaoh want to become a star? It would be pretty boring to just be a star in the heavens with nothing to do, and dreadful at the moment to be up there looking down at the state of this humanity, and hearing the terrible things we say about him and his glorious empire. Stars are what we call "superconscious" entities, therefore super-happy, and tha't why he strove to become one. Me too strive thataway. As for the Kundalini, Great Nature never repeats herself exactly, and "trying" to recapture a moment of anything frustrates the entire universe and it has to wait until we give up trying, then marvelous things "happen." So far my experience, and Paul definately agrees. I'm full of chaos myself, and for all I know, so is everybody else, but I trust Nietzsche "You must have chaos in you to give rise to a shining star." Love Charlotte |
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Post by Rob on May 31, 2008 13:00:17 GMT -5
Hello Don... mars earth 1881 correlation blew me off my seat.... 1 and 8 popping up all over all of a sudden... circling the square hugh... more synchro mysterio? been trying to convey that for some time... posted it to hippy last night... www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=243052&t=242360when you do this.... it proofs my formula of relations through SQRT2/1:1/SQRT2 !! anyway... i popped over to see what was on the menu Don... ?? cheers... keep up the inspiration... you get that new relational SQRT2\1:1/SQRT2 formula to work yet? and lock in on something? even try? i quit... it all seems to fit.. numbers all convexing... has to be coincidence.... numbers can mean so much...!! Hippy seems to have faded away.... or just taking a break from it all?? cheers Rob |
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Post by Don Barone on May 31, 2008 14:21:07 GMT -5
Hi Rob et al ... Well hold onto your hats because this next little bit is going to blow you even further away. It seems in inspirations there is always one little key thing that sets if all off. In this case it was Clive telling us that a certain circle in inches was 10 times the time it takes Mars to circle The Sun or 68699 inches. On the surface no big deal considering all else we have found here but think on it folks. What we are realizing by this simple statement and acceptance is that The Ancient Egyptians were completely familiar with the basic inch as we know it today. I know it's an awesome realization but I think many of us already new this, or at the least sensed it. Also all inspiration also involves hard work and research and how many of you know or realize the countless hours I put in dividing this or subtracting that in the background to every post I make. Yes I have certainly earned my light I should think. But now actually I think we stand on a threshold of understanding here at Giza and it is a direct result of Clive's hard work and diligence and gifted insights that have allowed this. Okay let's begin enough of my soap boxing. Let us start with this image ...  How many of you who are reading this remember the exhaustive research that we threw into this and then finally proving that the arcs do indeed work and that the corners of the pyramids were layed out from other lines and corners of existing pyramids. There can be no argument on this score as Wayne meticulously checked it with an Autocad program and it all checked to within .5 of a cubit and their were none who argued against it or could prove Wayne in error. Okay so what I did in the past was to draw the circles which these arcs correspond to but at that time I did not have the wisdom to know what they meant. Here is an old image of mine.  Thanks to Clive I now realize that no line was wasted at Giza. No ratio was co-incidental, no measurement was not fully meant and no angle turned without purpose. Folks Giza is truly a work of art. It is even more beautiful than even I thought and I still think I have but scratched the surface. I now realize that every single measurement and angle and ratio has a meaning and it is my mission now to try to find out what it all means. There are other circles to check but there is a thunderstorm outside and I would hate to lose it all so I will post one last image and allow you to marvel along with me on the absolute sheer brilliance of Giza and it's builders.  So those of you who would say it is all co-incidence I have no words for you for you for if you do not believe what is before your eyes then I can not help you. Amen Don Barone |
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Post by Rob on May 31, 2008 16:23:22 GMT -5
2376 mean anything to you? other then 2376 / Pi = 756 feet? the GP squared side? 2376 is the inner diameter of the circle or Pi that would be encapsulated by that square in feet?  hmmmm.... divided by ancient fathom 5.5 = 432!! 432 X 60 = 25920 !! hugh? is this live or memorex? haha!! good day... good stuff above...! Rob |
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Post by Don Barone on Jun 2, 2008 20:37:53 GMT -5
Hi all
I am on a laptop in Toronto with no mouse , just ridiculous finger dragging and such and it is driving me nuts.
So just a quick post about 1 and 8
365.24 x 2.881 = 1052.26 x 2 x 3.14159 = 6611.5166 divided by 365.24 = 18.1018 ... Just weird ...
365.24 x 3.881 = 1417.49 = DISTANCE FROM WEST SIDE OF G3 TO EAST SIDE OF G1
HOWEVER
THIS ALSO EQUALS 2 EARTHS PLUS 1 MARS
SO WE HAVE
Earth orbit in days x 3.881 = 2 Earth orbits in days plus 1 Mars orbit in Earth days
Very interesting ?
And of course 1052.26 is the length we get if we add all the pyramid base sizes together 439.88 + 411.04 + 201.46 = 1052.38
Probably a simple mathematical reason but just very interesting.
Or not ....
Cheers
Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 3, 2008 10:20:52 GMT -5
Wow, a thank you to Patrick Clinger for restoring our board so quickly Always I love the birds eye view of Giza, and I join your enthusiasm about the sheer brilliance of Giza and it's builders, which I never doubted, even just standing at the base of the GP and "looking" at it, speechless and thoughtless because overwhelmed. "...the Ancient Egyptians were completely familiar with the basic inch as we know it today." Confirming this H. Spencer Lewis Ph.D. From the RC Library "The first problem that faced the architects of the Pyramid was to determine upon a unit of measurement. We of today who are accostumed in America, for instance, to the yardstick in inches and feet, do not stop to realize that the inch as a unit of measurement was an arbitrarily adopted thing and that even the British inch is not precisely the same as the American inch, and that in ancient times there were units like the inch and to which we refer as an inch but which were of a different lenght than the present American or British inch. "What unit of measurement should the Egyptians use in building the Pyramid which would be eternal and universal? The scientists have discovered that the unit of measurement used in the Pyramid and now called the "Pyramid inch" was adopted because it was equivalent to a primitive Polar Diameter inch which, by the way, was the unit of measurement adopted by the Hebrews, as determined by Sir Isaac Newton in his investigations. Since the Polar diameter of the earth is 500,000,/000 Pyramid inches or 500,500,000 British inches, the difference between these two units of measurement would be only 1/1000th of an inch. At one time in British history, however, the Polar inch and British inch were equal." I also read some time ago, don't remember where, that America kept the inch measurement because of the GP, something useful in National Treasure Series, perhaps Charlotte |
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Post by khasekhemwy on Jun 4, 2008 12:27:24 GMT -5
sorry it took so long to comment on your thread Don.
But when you finally referenced a shape at Giza that WAS there, I just had to point out what I believe are some very significant facts.
Khasekhemwy's enclosure is a Two Square Rectangle
His name change from Khasekhem is ttbomk in reference to him having United/Reunited the Two Egypts.
His son...Netjerikhet built the first attempt at a Pyramid, his Enclosure had Northern and Southern precincts
A pyramid in it's simplest form, and especially when viewed 2 dimensionally as in this thread...is just a square, on a square, on a square. on......
Just some cultural references to keep in mind, tho I'm far from an expert.
Thanks for the invite, I'll float around the site when I get some time
warwick
PS the spell check makes me feel especially welcome:)
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Post by Don Barone on Jun 5, 2008 18:36:50 GMT -5
Hi Warwick ....
It's great to have you here. I am in Toronto this week training for a new sales position and am on a laptop and I hate laptops. They have moved the opening of the new store ahead a week and they now plan to open Friday June the 13th. This will show the type of company it is as they thought it would be cute to open on a traditionally unlucky day. Because of this I will probably not be here very much, if at all for the next little while as they anticipate very large crowds and very long day perhaps from 8 in the morning to 11 at night so I will probably be too tired to check in but I will see what I can do so if I don't answer a post right away please don't take it as slight.
So again Welcome and enjoy.
Best
Don Barone
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Post by khasekhemwy on Jun 6, 2008 11:04:12 GMT -5
Turanna eh?
the last time I was there , there was still a Place called the Golden Star on Yonge St just north of Steeles. They serve the best Steak on a Kaiser in the WORLD!!! I ate my first one when I was 15 (just shortly after the Crimean War). AS with most of the best restaurants, pizza places and take outs, it's run by Greeks. And yes you can get a salad with Your dead cow (or just a salad if meat ain't your thing).
I'll try and keep my posts here within a respectful devil's advocate framework...
Warwick
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Post by spaceyhippie on Jun 10, 2008 14:43:25 GMT -5
without reading this whole thing yet, just commenting on this bit real quick
>> 18.81 ? The reciprical of .81 is .... 1.23456790123456790123456790...
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and that's this number, in base 10... cuz 81 = 9 x 9
so we have some clue the architects were using base 10
but just that there's something like this in there, wherever it is
now, i want to look for other similar numbers in other digit systems
like would that be .55 in hex, etc... this, i hand off to the math geeks
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Post by spaceyhippie on Jun 10, 2008 15:09:04 GMT -5
aha, also... 513 = 555 - 42
so between 500 and 555 we have 1, 2, 3, 4
n these numbers deal with the 4 inner planets...
how do those same numbers apply to the 4 outer ?
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Post by spaceyhippie on Jun 10, 2008 22:47:22 GMT -5
ok... very basically
G1 = 440
G2 = 411
G1 is 29 cubits wider...
29 / 440 = 0.065909090909090909090909090909091
29 / 411 = 0.070559610705596107055961070559611
reciprocate: 15.172413793103448275862068965517
reciprocate: 14.172413793103448275862068965517
...oho... wouldja just look at that, now...
one cubit off, and all those other digits exact
...thing o beauty... no idea what it means, tho
any math geeks out there in anomaly-land know what this number is ?
0.172413793103448275862068965517
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Post by Don Barone on Jun 11, 2008 6:52:52 GMT -5
Hi spaceyhippie and welcome ...
0.172413793103448275862068965517 = almost exactly 5.8
Actually equals ... 5.8000000000000000000000000000081
Why is 5.8 important ? Not sure yet.
However 5.8 is TWICE 2.9 or 1/10th of the number you used as a divisor to begin this exercise. Any meaning there ? Again not sure.
Good work by the way spacey ...
Best
Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on Jun 11, 2008 7:55:52 GMT -5
Hi spacey .. Moving to G3 we have 201.5 but as you know that does not work. Using 5.8 we get 29 x 5.8 = 168.2 However interestingly if we subtract this from 201.5 we are left with 33.3 ... basically exactly 1/3rd. And I believe Clive Ross has done research that there was red encasement stones used at G3 . Wonder if it breaks down to this ratio and configuration. I will have to check. HOWEVER ... 440 divided by 28 = 15.714285714285714285714285714286 reciprical = 0.063636363636363636363636363636364 And 440 - 28 = 412 divided by 28 = 14.714285714285714285714285714286 Again a difference of exactly 1 Let's try 27: 440 divided by 27 = 16.296296296296296296296296296296 413 divided by 27 = 15.296296296296296296296296296296 Let's try 26 ... 440 divided by 26 = 16.923076923076923076923076923077 414 divided by 26 = 15.923076923076923076923076923077 Let's try 25 .... 440/25 = 17.6 415/26 = 16.6 So it would papear, at least to me that it will work with any number IF AND ONLY IF we begin with the number 440 OR ANY MULTIPLE OF 440 SUCH AS 880 AND IS THERE NOT 88 PIANO KEYS ? Can we surmise that music itself is tied into this apparently magic number 440 ? And strangely 440 HZ equals Middle "A" See link here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440And was it not Pythagoras who said ... "There is music in the spheres" . Maybe he was referring to our solar system. See link here: www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.geometry/unit3/unit3.htmlcheers Don Barone |
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