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[Don Barone]

Alice in Wonderland Revisited
in The Light of Recent Revelations

Hi all ... I am starting to get a bit spooked but in a nice way. All of my previous work and web pages and ideas are now crystallizing before me and I am approaching I think, the ultimate awakening or maybe, as Neil Young called it "The Gold Rush ! I have just made a discovery that should propel me even further down this rabbit hole I am falling into. The first part of the discovery was that The Eye of Horus was symbolically showing us the creation, man, and The Creator all at the same time, I then found that The Step Pyramid at Sakkara followed the same idea and then the final break through came when I realized that The Red and White Crowns of Egypt symbolized this exact same concept. And then came the realization that my fixation with Alice and her wonderland had been a sign all along. It was here I would find further evidences and key to continue for in Alice in Wonderland poor Alice gets caught up in a battle between The Red Queen and The White Queen. It is a vicious battle and can be seem to symbolize the battle between good ( The White Queen) and evil (The Red Queen) The Evil Queen wishes to chop off the heads of everyone. Why ? As I was inspired to post as a title on my blog, Remember what the Dormouse said ...FEED YOUR HEAD !!!!! This is of course symbolic for learning or gaining knowledge so this evil queen wants to take away your ability for knowledge. But then we must ask ourselves what knowledge is she so afraid that we might find ? And then I think back to the first place where anyone was ever commanded not to learn or dare to seek knowledge. It was in The Garden of Eden and Adam and Eve were commanded by "The Creator" NOT TO EAT FROM THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE. Well what was the Lord's fear way back then. What was so awful that we had to be forbidden to learn. Well according to the texts it was the knowledge of Good and Evil, and once having taken a bite of The Tree of Knowledge we had opened the very first Pandora's Box for once you let knowledge out you can never get it back. You can't forget it. But there was a second and really more urgent problem. "The Elohim - The Gods" were afraid that we would learn the secret of immortality and there in lies the best kept secret of all times. For when we ate from The Tree of Knowledge WE DID INDEED LEARN THAT WE WERE IMMORTAL THAT WE WERE EXACTLY LIKE THE GODS THAT WE WERE GODS. And so a dilemma, how to fix this problem. And so it was we were banished out of Eden, this Utopian place called Eden I have yet to determine exactly where it is but my logic now dictates that it could be as simple as being our dream world, and so we forced to leave our dream world and wake up and live in "The Real World" for in our dream world we could do anything we wanted, be anyone we wanted to be, go anywhere we wanted to go. In other words ... our dream world is PARADISE, IT IS THE HEAVEN THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT !!!!!!! And now when once we think on that where of course must Hell be ? Well of course it is so obvious now .. Hell is here on Earth, in the waking world. Being awake is hell and The Gnostics knew it  !!!!!!! The simple fact of being awake makes this world hell. So we are banished into the real world and we become totally decadent for we know we are immortal and that there is no reason to fear anything or show any restraint in our debauchery. An so another dilemma ... how to fix this ? And so The Elohim decide to send a flood and all this time we thought they were talking about water but it was and always has been symbolic waters. It was The Waters of Forgetfulness and we forgot who we were. We forgot we were Gods and we forgot that we were immortal. But not be to fear Noah alone was spared from this Curse of Forgetfulness and all his family also knew and so I put it to you that that is the great secret that is being hidden among The Illuminati and The Masons and all the other secret societies all down through time and into the present age. And there are indeed others who know AND NOW WE KNOW TO !!!!!!! The secret is that we, all of us are The Immortals !!!!

Cheers
Don Barone
August 28th, 2015

[Charlotte]

Hi Don,

You're running too fast and far afield for me to catch up or at least get a word in sideways

I thought about the Crowns of Egypt yesterday, and reading this and the other came to this, my current understanding. Talking about the unification of Egypt, some years ago I read that there was no geographical Upper and Lower Egypt, which I liked because that fell in line with my thinking all along, viz., Egyptology had to find an explanation for the purpose of the three Crowns mentioned here, an interpretation of the texts.

"The White Crown symbolized the pharaoh's control over Upper Egypt, and was worn on occasions involving Upper Egypt only."

"The Red Crown symbolized the pharaoh's control over Lower Egypt, and was worn on occasions involving Lower Egypt only."

"The Blue Crown (the Khepresh) was a blue cloth or leather headdress decorated with bronze or gold discs. The Blue Crown was worn in battles, as well as on ceremonial occasions."

"The Double Crown was a combination of the Red Crown of Lower Egypt and the White Crown of Upper Egypt. It symbolized the joining of the two lands, and the pharaoh's control over the two lands."

In the post below, you define the colors red and white as evil and good, for short. So do I in a manner of speaking. Repeating myself, for I still see the Red Crown with its peculiar spiral of Lower Egypt as representing our lower/earthly nature. The White Crown, called the "Crown of divine form" representing our spiritual nature. The Blue Crown symbolizes the battle between our lower and higher nature, and when the two are united Pharaoh becomes absolute Ruler over Upper and Lower Egypt, named "His Majesty of Upper and Lower Egypt, triumphant..." Same as we can triumph when finding perfect balance of our 'good' and 'bad'.

The Blue Crown called "Khepresh" signals Khefer, a transitional state of the self regenerating Scarabea, hence Khafre's Pyramid is called the "Pyramid of Transformation". Belonging here is the graceless byname given to Khufu's Pyramid by mechanical Egyptologists: "Resurrection Machine".

I can't follow your explanation of the 'upright' "Eye of Horus", it has long been shown as a combination of the Thalamus, Corpus Callosum, Hypothalamus, Pituitary and Pineal glands, the Medulla Oblongata in the form of the spiral resembling the one in the Red Crown.

[Charlotte]

Time ran out on me yesterday, had to go to the Farmers Market to buy the Fruits of the Earth and thanking the Mexican immigrant farm workers who labor in 100 degree to make a living.

Apropos Immortality, you say that we are all Immortals and this is the secret of the Illuminate and Masons, and don't forget the Rosicrucians and Saints. I would say that their secret is how to regain our Immortality, which is set forth in their Literature albeit not directly, because, said Marie, "we have to earn it" by diligent study and contemplate what is being said "to join the Immortals", Mr. Hall has it. In the lesser, in principle the same as in the Greater, we go to school, learn and earn advancement till we master a subject. This is how we "fix the problem", I believe, here and now in time and space, as the Priests of Egypt show and tell.

I think, that unless we 'imagine' Paradise as a 'place', the heaven that has always been spoken about where all is perfect, Paradise or Heaven is not a dream world, but the Kingdom within, always comes down to "Know Thyself", taught even by the ancient Arabian alchemists, "which tradition of theirs are little better than a romance", as stated in the "Pyromidographia", published under the name of John Greaves, the last quote but an invitation to look further if so inclined.

Shakespeare's dream world is the phenomenal world: "We are the stuff that dreams are made on and our little life is rounded by a sleep".

As to this World being Hell, looking at the state of affairs 'according to our thinking', as theoretical physics and the Church Fathers affirm, what the hell are we thinking? But we are free to think and behold living Nature and the majestic Firmament.

On the Tree of Life, the bottom Sephiroth is Malkuth, the Earth or the Kingdom, below that the Qliphoth, the world of chaos out of which we have to make order living in this World as did the Egyptians. We are all like Alice in the Underworld trying to figure things out, thank God for Absolem who helps us out.

[Don Barone]

Aug 30, 2015 9:18:29 GMT -5 Charlotte said:

Time ran out on me yesterday, had to go to the Farmers Market to buy the Fruits of the Earth and thanking the Mexican immigrant farm workers who labor in 100 degree to make a living.

Apropos Immortality, you say that we are all Immortals and this is the secret of the Illuminate and Masons, and don't forget the Rosicrucians and Saints. I would say that their secret is how to regain our Immortality, which is set forth in their Literature albeit not directly, because, said Marie, "we have to earn it" by diligent study and contemplate what is being said "to join the Immortals", Mr. Hall has it. In the lesser, in principle the same as in the Greater, we go to school, learn and earn advancement till we master a subject. This is how we "fix the problem", I believe, here and now in time and space, as the Priests of Egypt show and tell.

I think, that unless we 'imagine' Paradise as a 'place', the heaven that has always been spoken about where all is perfect, Paradise or Heaven is not a dream world, but the Kingdom within, always comes down to "Know Thyself", taught even by the ancient Arabian alchemists, "which tradition of theirs are little better than a romance", as stated in the "Pyromidographia", published under the name of John Greaves, the last quote but an invitation to look further if so inclined.

Shakespeare's dream world is the phenomenal world: "We are the stuff that dreams are made on and our little life is rounded by a sleep".

As to this World being Hell, looking at the state of affairs 'according to our thinking', as theoretical physics and the Church Fathers affirm, what the hell are we thinking? But we are free to think and behold living Nature and the majestic Firmament.

On the Tree of Life, the bottom Sephiroth is Malkuth, the Earth or the Kingdom, below that the Qliphoth, the world of chaos out of which we have to make order living in this World as did the Egyptians. We are all like Alice in the Underworld trying to figure things out, thank God for Absolem who helps us out.

Hi Charlotte you write ... I would say that their secret is how to regain our Immortality, In a way you are right for once you come to the realization that you are god you instantly have obtained the immortality of which you searched. So Charlotte again I must emphasize that for me the search for The Holy Grail has ended. I have spent my entire live, since I was 7 looking for the replacement for Santa Claus that my mother ripped away from me at seven years of age, and people aught at this but Santa Claus represented to me all that was good and peaceful with humanity and then I was told it was all a lie, it wasn't real and even worse it was the one person I trusted before all others, my mother who had done the lying. . I really never recovered ... until now. ... I have found God and it is me and I now realize since my world is but an illusion a world I have created I intend to make the most of it. I am going to stop and smell the Flowers I have created and feel the breeze and feel the warmth of the sun and most of all I now know that all of us are sharing a collective dream, all of us contributing to the whole which is the cosmic conscience ... which is but the mind of God or maybe God itself. God has given us each a price of it's "mind" but each piece has the ability to create it's own universe, it's own reality but always part of the whole. So the lesson I guess is I will let you be in my dream it you let me be in yours. Bob Dylan said this and then laughed on a very early album. And Johnny Rivers and one of the greatest albums of all times appropriately entitled ... REALIZATION !

I nearly lost myself
Tryin’ to be someone else
All of life I’ve been playing the game.

Gotta get out of myself it seems
Life’s not real when you’re in a dream
Hang on to your head and give it a try.

To live you must nearly die
Giving up the need to say I
Look to your soul for the answer
Look to your soul.

So many people passing by
Have a need to identify
All of us want to be satisfied.

Few people seem to care
Livin’ the life that goes nowhere
Nobody takes the time to try.

To live you must nearly die
Giving up the need to say I
Look to your soul for the answer
Look to your soul.

... and ...

Something strange is happening to me
Something more than my two eyes can see
And I know I can no longer live in false reality.

Lies get clearer every day
Truth this time you’re here to stay
And this feelin’ deep in my soul will not pass away.

The question came to me
Is there more than I could Be ?
Then I opened up my eyes to what I am inside.

Life gets sweeter every day
Love you’re here to stay
This feelin’ down in my soul will not pass away.

Johnny had seen the light as so many did during the 60's this album is from 1968 and as you know was a runaway best seller.

And then Cat Stevens ...


CAT STEVENS LYRICS
"On The Road To Findout"

Well I left my happy home to see what I could find out
I left my folk and friends with the aim to clear my mind out
Well I hit the rowdy road and many kinds I met there
Many stories told me of the way to get there

So on and on I go, the seconds tick the time out
There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

Well in the end I'll know, but on the way I wonder
Through descending snow, and through the frost and thunder

I listen to the wind come howl, telling me I have to hurry
I listen to the robin's song saying not to worry

So on and on I go, the seconds tick the time out
There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

Then I found myself alone, hopin' someone would miss me
Thinking about my home, and the last woman to kiss me, kiss me

But sometimes you have to moan when nothing seems to suit ya
But nevertheless you know you're locked towards the future

So on and on you go, the seconds tick the time out
There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

Then I found my head one day when I wasn't even trying
And here I have to say, 'cause there is no use in lying, lying

Yes the answer lies within, so why not take a look now?
Kick out the devil's sin, pick up, pick up a good book now

And your old friend Shakespeare telling you outright ...

"We are the stuff that dreams are made on and our little life is rounded by a sleep".

He knew Charlotte ... and then don't forget he told you that
All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

Dust to dust but always renewed always given a second chance always a rebirth until ... until we find out who we are and what we are and we when we do this and we know we are God and are a bit part of the mind of god given the amazing ability to build our own universe ... quite a thing this god ...then we can begin to build paradise again on Earth and in our dream world and help everyone in theirs.

Cheers ... and the entity or force that has given us this power ... this unknown thing this Ptah ... that has givne us but a billionth of his mind yet it is powerful enough to allow us to create own universe ... well Charlotte think on it ... do you honestly think this thing needs to be worshiped in a church for Charlotte do you not see.  We return every night in dreams back into the mind of god, we see him every day or night maybe.

So Charlotte I will let you be in my dreams if you let me be in yours ...

amen and if you needed proof of all of this I suggest you visit me at Ma'at ...

Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Wow!
Hi Don,

"I have found God and it is me and I now realize since my world is but an illusion a world I have created I intend to make the most of it. I am going to stop and smell the Flowers I have created and feel the breeze and feel the warmth of the sun" . . . is what I thought yesterday to say to you, to slow down and enjoy your life's work, . . . "and most of all I now know that all of us are sharing a collective dream", . . . but we also have an individual dream making up the collective, . . . "all of us contributing to the whole which is the cosmic conscience ... which is but the mind of God or maybe God itself.

"God has given us each a price of its "mind" but each piece has the ability to create its own universe, its own reality but always part of the whole." So true, "as a man thinketh so it is with him", also known as "free will", and the philosophical notion that we are more than the sum of our parts. Who can fathom such the All? Sometimes I read something so profound giving me a flash of insight that I sit utterly stunned and realize that I know nothing.

And when we know "we are bit part of the mind of God given the amazing ability to build our own universe ... then we can begin to build paradise again on earth..." This is known as "Thy Kingdom come, thy Will be done on earth as it is heaven".

The "entity that has given us the power - given us but a billionth of his mind yet it is powerful enough to allow us to create our universe..." In our Church the Priest says: "Glory to God who has given such power to man", however, I think that the power to create our own 'dream universe' is but a minor part of the power spoken of in the quote.

Basically, Don, we're saying the same thing tangled up in words, and as we agree that we live in a dream world, collectively, look at what dreams we are dreaming resembling nightmares. Our individual dreams can be defined by the old adage: as a man thinketh so it is with him". Who can fathom Life, yet we keep searching even when we say we are tired of searching as T.S. Eliot well known:

"We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
Through the unknown, remembered gate
When the last of earth left to discover
Is that which was the beginning;
At the source of the longest river
The voice of the hidden waterfall
And the children in the apple-tree
Not known, because not looked for
But heard, half-heard, in the stillness
Between two waves of the sea."

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte I do not think we are saying the same things. For you have to go to church and have someone of authority set things up for you. But Charlotte you are God. You are part human part God (The Minotaur ? The Centaur ?) but the human part is but the illusion. And the end is coming as surely as i give the illusion of breathing and as sure as we think I am standing here the end is coming and there will indeed be tribulations, and the earth will shake and there will earthquakes and real tsunamis (or at least we will think there are and the whole world will be destroyed for it is our destiny we must shake off the old world this earth and move on, ... and so our dear mother earth will be no more ... it is destined to return to the dust (elements) from which it has been made, our collective minds for Charlotte it has been our ark, it has carried us from the first two elements combined to start the creation process to now and now I think our evolution is about to be completed. We are going to transition to our real self and our destiny to becomes Gods and free to roam in the spiritual or another dimension. And as was said by Zulu to Kirk after Star trek # 1 I think ... He asks where to Captain ,,, and Kirk say out there somewhere ... just drive And they were on a five year mission and we have been on a 13.6 billion year mission for what is time to the mind of god. So i continue to say we be part God, part mortal but the mortal was and always has been created by the gods, us and so it is the material world that is the illusion. But back to mother earth, it has nurtured us and fed us and clothed us and protected us and now it is time to ... leave the nest ... to as Cat Stevens wrote ... well I left my happy home .. to see what I could find out, I left my folk and friends with the aim to clear my mind out ... and this beauty ... done twice





and finally this another song that called me when i first heard it ...

Noah was a rocket scientist, in the year of our Lord, The Iron Fist

and everywhere was heard the absence of the word,

the Earth was filled with violence and hate, but Noah would not give in to fate.

Noah looked at his computer screen, he saw there something he had never seen

A message from above, signed from God with love

"You better build a giant rocket-ship, and prepare to take a long, long trip.



Gather up all creatures great and small, those that fly, those that walk and crawl,

those that swim the sea , include each kind of tree,

of each grain that on this earth you feed, carefully lay in a store of seed.

Of each living thing you must bring two, both male and female the old soft-shoe

and though the skies are clear, I know the end is near ,

on second thought you better make that three ... to ensure each possibility."



Noah my friend, here we go again, somewhere in space and time

You'll find ... a key, to this heart ... of mine."



So Noah sent out a press release, "Last chance for the world to live in peace."

When God plays pantomime, we're running out of time

the leaders of the world would not repent, they all ignored his sad lament.

So Noah quit his job and went to work, while the world went from bad to berserk

Just like in days of old, the centre does not hold

There were some who joined him in his quest, the stupid, ... the crazy ... the dispossessed.



He freed the animals from testing labs, his crew, from New York city taxi cabs

and with a wanted ad, he found a launching pad

His rocket-ship was built by many hands, and each pair... from a different land.

At last they were ready to embark, Noah raised his voice " I dub thee 'Ark' "

He aimed for a black hole, as he prayed for each soul

A meteor flew by as he looked back, he thought he saw a nuclear attack.



"Noah my friend, here we go again, somewhere in space and time

You'll find ... a key ... to this heart ... of mine."



Across the universe to yesteryear, suspended animation was in gear

and when they all woke up, in need of a pick me up

after 40 billion days and nights, you know a cup of Java would be nice.

Noah looked upon the vast immense and he felt within his being a sixth sense

the deeper that he flew ... a sense of deja-vu

onto the second star to the right ... straight on until the morning light.



Now when their course was nearly done, the third planet from the seventh sun

While circling the globe ... Noah sent forth a probe ..

it came back a dove from Galilee ... holding a branch of an olive tree.

So now we return for the first time ... the sweet breath of a familiar climb

Noah picked up a leaf ... and he sighed in relief

In the eyes of the Lord we find grace ... the end of our search for a birth place



"Noah my friend, here we go again, somewhere in space and time

You'll find ... a key ... to this heart ... of mine."



Amen

Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Hi Don,

All too much for me grasp, though I think you and I with millions of other humans are 'in search of the miraculous'. In Germany, when we dispute with each other about the reason for and meaning of Life and cannot agree, we part as friends, saying: "Jeder soll nach seiner Fassung seelig warden". Die Seele is the Soul, Fassung is one's understanding/comprehension according to one's humour and development. To become seelig means to be fulfilled, content, at peace, and blessed. Below, when something makes us really really happy, we say 'are you seelig now?'

"Just when I think I have nailed it, it changes". "Finding the Soul" is a process, the Pyramid Builders might have realized the same thing and constructed 'false doors', my simple thinking. It could be applied to Heisenberg's uncertainty, for Life, the macro and microcosm are dynamic, pro, con, and balance, but does not rest in balance lest no progress is possible. A balance or synthesis is the spring board of yet another thesis in the complexity of existence.

You say I "have to go to church and have someone of authority set things up for you." No one "sets things up" for me, more like 'here is Wisdom, think on it'. When Kirk says go to anywhere out there, I understand it to be the phenomenal Universe, whereas to be 'free to roam in the spiritual or other dimensions', is not "out there" but within, the dimensions being within us, always the same "Know Thyself".

You say I am God, and I sit here thinking 'what does that mean?' Saying, in His Image and Likeness created He us, is one thing, fully understanding it is another.

Indeed, we're devastating out Planet. You don't like our President, but did you listen to his informed, moving, and always eloquent speech in Alaska?

Thank you, I like the songs, especially Johnny Cash because I do believe in magic.



Peace

[Don Barone]

Yeah they were great but I was so much older then, I am younger than that now ...

And a littler simpler view of things ...



I wonder if he knew what he was writing this Frank L Baum

Sounds like he might have been ... a time traveler ? Or maybe a seer.

Oh and The Jehovah Witness' they refused to even listen to me.

Amen
Don Barone

"You must believe in magic, you must believe in the guiding hand. For if you believe in magic ... you have the universe at your command.
Mad is the crew bound for Alpha Centauri. Poets and dreamers and clowns, Bold is the ship bound for Alpha Centauri and NOTHING CAN TURN IT AROUND !"

[Charlotte]

Thanks for the little simpler, Don. We then agree that the Wizard was a teacher of "Know Thyself" I could be Dorothy with Toto in fantasy land but always grounded in the material world due to pretzels dunked in Bavarian beer given to me in my childhood

I suspect Mr. Braun knew what he was writing about else he could not have written it. As far as I can see, a Seer is a time traveler, which travel I don't think is done via some machine, but as the Moody Blues sing: thinking is the best way to travel.

Concerning our Thinking, this Poem by Anonymous is brilliant:

Across the moorlands of the Not
We chase the gruesome When;
And hunt the Itness of the What
Through forests of the Then.
Into the Inner Consciousness
We track the crafty Where;
We spear the Ego tough, and beard
The Selfhood in his lair.

With lassos of the brain we catch
The Isness of the Was,
And in the corpses of the Whence
We hear the think bees buzz.
We climb the slippery Witchbark tree
To watch the Thusness roll,
And pause betimes in gnostic rhymes
To woo the Over Soul.


Walking about the Farmers Market, a Witness of Jehovah endeavors to convert people. He ceaselessly talks to himself as he approaches people, and when you stop to say 'no thank you', he just keeps on talking and clings to your heels. I feel sad for him as he seems oblivious to even know where he is.