The Illuminati Awaken ...

[Don Barone]

Hi all. (especially ren and Charlotte) [postings taken from Graham's site]

Some of you might remember that a while ago a gentleman by the name of Mark Harlem, who later turned out to be Karl Hammer (author of "Satan's Song" [still not published in The USA or Canada !!!]) suggested to me that an approaching battle was coming between the forces of "good" and the forces of "evil". Many scoffed, many still do but along with that he told me (about 2 or 3 years ago) that soon, he suggested in about 2 years, that many things would begin to be revealed. When I questioned him he simply said it will all be revealed soon. And now it appears that another "secret" group, apparently much misunderstood, are about to launch a sort of revelation of their own. The Illuminati are about to discuss in an open and public forum their beliefs and their hopes and their reasons for being. I have been privileged to have read a bit of it and it is certainly worth considering.

They plan to slowly release it on this website over the next several months and they have graciously decided to put some of my research on the site. To say I am honoured would indeed be an understatement.

So I will allow some of you, most will ignore this thread and the promise it holds, to wander over to the site and do some reading and then I will post a little more.

Yours in respect and the light
Don Barone

Author: Ahatmose (---.141.93.0)
Date: 21-Aug-09 11:39



I know nothing secret Jaq.

All I asked is to read the website. Have you done that or are you going to ignore the website because of YOUR ego ?

It is not a case of being worthy or unworthy. All I say is that most will ignore it. And when I say allow I simply mean to let a certain period of time pass before I post more. It has nothing to do with ego but everyhting to do with gathering additional information from the site before I post more.

And indeed I do know things you do not know as well as you knowing things that I do not know. A pooling of knowledge is what it is all about. The Illuminati are about to publish certain things that they have never spoken of before in public and for the time being yes I do know what that will be.

What ails thee Jaq ?

Whom does the Grail serve Jaq?

Better still what is The Holy Grail ?

Cheers
Don Barone

Author: Ahatmose (---.141.93.0)
Date: 24-Aug-09 03:45

Hi Jaq ... no harm done and I am also sorry so please put your website back up and I will link to it from my website also.

This religion of The Illuminati, also the same religion of The Cathars, made men do some of the most unspeakable acts of torture and mayhem ever inflicted on fellow human beings. Even the Romans looked like boy scouts compared to the horrors of The Inquisition and the massacre of The Cathars and now some would try to have me believe that the religion that was so intolerant to to this idea is the correct one to follow ? Forgive me if I beg to differ.

Some have obviously not read, or do not want to entertain the notion that all men are truly created equal as they all have a divine spark and all are becoming "The Light". Why this spreads fear among some is beyond me. All men are said to carry the divine spark which will lead them to becoming "God". I do not see why this is so disturbing to some such as spitfire888. I fail to see how this is a danger either to myself, my loved ones or the world. However those who profess to be Christians such as bush and Cheney and those that follow Allah such as The Taliban and al Queda would seem to be the real threat to mankind.

As I said I have made my choice.

See you on the "battlefield".

Best regards
Don Barone



Author: Ahatmose (---.141.93.0)
Date: 24-Aug-09 14:55

The point of this thread is to dispell the myth that the Illuminati is out to destroy the world. That myth is kept alive by the real threats on this planet.

However I think all of you are missing the point of what is being said on The Armageddon Conspiracy website. Read carefully and you wiil see that "WE ARE BECOMG GOD". Nowhere have I read that you have to die to reach this point of achievement and total enlightenment. So it follows that you can become "God" while still alive and in our material body, and if you read even more carefully it says that the teachings of the Illuminati are not secret but how to use this power and what happens when we become "God" is where the real enlightenment comes and is what scares the present ruling class to death.

We are all becoming god they tell us.

Is there anything more beautiful that we could strive to become ?

and as I wrote to Mike Hockney ... " For when the final analysis is in what greater ending to anyone's life could there be than to grow up to become, not a servant or a follower of, but of actually becoming ... God !"

To me a much greater thing to believe in than the possibility that I will serve in heaven beside a sacrificed lamb and a vengeful and actually quite wicked alleged "God"

We are trapped in our material bodies and are seduced by The Demiurge into thinking that the pleasures of the flesh and of hedonism is what it is all about never once thinking that the ultimate reality and reason for being is to transcend all of this and know EVERYTHING as we become "God".

And just as a side trip here I will briefly suggest (I am presently working on a website where I will explore this thought more fully) that The Ancient Egyptians were well aware of these truths and thus the Red Crown would suggest the lower self, while The White Crown would suggest the attainment of "The Light" and The Higher Self while the wearing of both by Pharaoh would suggest the perfect blending and co-existence of the two together in harmaony and with The Blue Crown possibly suggesting the battle one goes through when one is trying to find this perfect balance. So thus the unification of Egypt, of Upper and Lower Egypt is but a metaphor for the unficiation of mankind "himself" and his quest to balance the spiritual with the material. His higher self with his lower self. To me all quite logical and makes perfect sense.

How this can possibly fit into an historical framework and how it could be possible will make up a large part of the website.

Emhotep and struggling and working toward The Light
Don Barone

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So it would appear that we are now on opposite sides Charlotte. I wonder should your side win will I perish in The Iron Maiden or will I be drawn and quartered or will I be boiled alive ? All various techniques used by your side in the past.

Emhotep
db

[renwdimgink]

Dear don,

You're con-fusing the Orthodox Church with the Roman catholic,which are both historically and spiritually two different animals. It was the roman catholics who persecuted the Cathars and conducted all of the other crusades,(The fourth one was against the Orthodox-they sacked Constantinople...)

We may be on different paths but not opposite sides.

[renwdimgink]

As far as the Illuminati goes - Why is "George Washington" smiling like that,with that,"I know something you don't know!" kind of look in his eyes,in his portrait on the dollar bill?


If this is the same Illuminati we're talking about who started out as the Knights Templar,infiltrated the Mason's guild and then engineered the English,American,French and Russian revolutions, (Not to mention ww's 1 and 2 ) seems like they've been more interested in political ends than in spiritual transformation. Or have they just been waiting until they control the whole world until they can get around to the spiritual side of things?

[Don Barone]

Hi ren ...

Trust me we are not at all on the same side.

"Holy Water" does into fit into The Illuminati story at all .... nor for that matter does Jesus. Not sure how you can say that. Orthodoxy is still Christianity - Illumination ... is not.

You need a church ... they do not.
You worship God" ... they are becoming god
You trust in The Bible ... they trust in themselves

No ren, not the same side at all.

Regards
Don Barone

[renwdimgink]

"It is very well to say,"WE are becoming God." But what does that mean in a practical sense? What specific steps does someone take to get in touch with their higher self,to liberate the Divine spark? What happens when they have mastered that ability? What are the implications?"

Orthodox Christianity not only answers these questions,(what else have Charlotte and I been discussing?) It has a two thousand year old track record of Sanctified men and women who have demonstrated what Jesus promised when he said,"The things that I do,ye shall do and greater things than these ye shall do." If you read the lives of the saints of the Orthodox Church you will see the answers to these questions demonstrated in their lives. From the Apostles and the myhrr bearing women, to the Apostolic Fathers and the first Christian martyrs,the desert fathers and mothers in the Palestinian and Egyptian wilderness,St.Anthony,St.John the dwarf,St.Gerasimos,St.Mary of Egypt,the Holy Hierarchs,saints and righteous of the Byzantine Empire,St.Nicholas,St.Spyridon,St.Athanasius,All the saints of Bulgaria,Romania,Serbia,Georgia and of all the eastern European nations,The Saints of Greece and Mt.Athos, all the saints of Russia,St.Seraphim of Sarov,Blessed xenia of St.Petersburg,St.Sergius of Radanez,St. John of Kronstdt,the Optina Elders,St.Herman of Alaska,Archbishop John of Shanhai and San Francisco,etc.etc. And innumerable others,men and women ,just like you and I who believed the Gospel,made use of it in an Orthodox manner and were transformed and transfigured while still here on earth and who continue to this day to intercede for us and perform countless miracles from the next world,where they have gone before and prepared a place for us.

By their fruits ye shall know them.

If the Illuminati have this great way to make us become God,where are the examples of it that we can emulate? Where are all the Illuminati Saints and Righteous? Leonardo Da vinci? A genius,no doubt. God? I don't see any evidence of it. Let's see them all so that we know if their way to become God works or not.

Let the "Illuminated ones" show themselves and then we will be able to judge the value of what they profess to believe!

Now,let's say that the Illuminati Do have a way to make people God and have some examples of the success of their methods...

...That's great. And if they do it without Jesus,without church,without the bible and without Holy water...

...Big deal? It's just a different method of getting to the same place. Why do you insist we're on opposite "sides"? We're not against you. We're all for you becoming God. Do it any way that works for you.

Just don't try to "tar" us with the same brush that the inquisition used. You've got us mixed up with the roman catholics who stepped away from us and everything we believe and practice. We haven't had anything to do with them since the eight hundreds. We don't even use the Gregorian calendar which the roman catholics came up with!

Every other spiritual path is granted the possibility of being genuine.
Why is it so difficult to grasp that there is a genuine form of Christian spirituality that does what it claims to do? Just because it has been misused and misinterpreted so often throughout it's history?

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. 'Cause you just might miss out on a real good thing.

[renwdimgink]

"Since it costs a lot to win and even more to lose,you and me better spend some time,wondering what to choose. Goes to show you don't ever know.Watch each card you play and play it slow.
Wait until that deal come round.Don't you let that deal go down,no.no..."

[renwdimgink]

Our biases and prejudices act as filters in our mind which keep us from hearing and seeing things as they actually are. All the things that you deride and have such negative connotations for are the things that I am most grateful for!

Have you ever grown fruit trees?

You put the plants in the ground that you have prepared for them. You stake them up so that they grow straight.You paint around the trunk so that termites and other bugs don't eat them up. you put a fence around them so that deer and rabbits don't eat the leaves off.Then you water them so that they will grow up AND BEAR FRUIT,which is the real purpose for doing all these other things.

All the things that you seem to have such a bad opinion of serve the same purpose as the things you use for growing healthy fruit trees that will eventually bear fruit.

And if you think that the"Illuminati" or any other spiritual path doesn't have it's own devices that you will have to conform to if you want to be"one of them," you are mistaken.

You will NOT be "Trusting in yourself," I assure you,you will have to be trusting in them.

Good luck.

[Don Barone]

The Illuminati encourage skepticism. We do not seek sheep. We seek those who can apply their critical faculties and see beyond the delusions and lies of the old, false religions. Illumination - the ancient religion of the Illuminati - is not for believers who place blind faith in absurd gods and prophets. Many of our members began their journey as skeptics, cynics and atheists. To bring such people to illumination is a vastly more difficult task than preaching to the herds and flocks who wish to spend their lives on their knees worshipping deities in which no rational person could possibly believe. Illumination is the most remarkable religion in history because it is the only one that convinces atheists that they are mistaken. The reason for that is simple. The True God of Illumination has nothing at all in common with Jehovah, Allah or Christ. When God is defined in absurd ways, absurd conclusions flow. When the real nature of God is understood, all the mysteries of life fall into place.

So, step one - doubt everything you have been told about religion and find as many faults and flaws as you can. Step two - doubt everything you have been told about conspiracy theories and find as many faults and flaws as you can. Step three - doubt everything you have been told about science and find as many faults as flaws as you can. Step four - doubt everything you have been told about philosophy and find as many faults and flaws as you can. Step five - now you are ready to open your mind to the truth.

[renwdimgink]

O.K. Let's see if I've got this right. You're telling me that we are all becoming God. And that the Illuminati,through they're practice of Gnosticism have a means of facilitating this process of becoming God.

Am I correct so far?

My question is,If this is the case,please point out to me some former and present members of the Illuminati who,through their practice of Gnosticism,have become God so that I may examine their lives and see for myself if what they profess to believe actually works.

[Don Barone]

O.K. Let's see if I've got this right. You're telling me that we are all becoming God. And that the Illuminati,through they're practice of Gnosticism have a means of facilitating this process of becoming God.

Am I correct so far?

As far as I have understood what they have written that is correct.

My question is,If this is the case,please point out to me some former and present members of the Illuminati who,through their practice of Gnosticism,have become God so that I may examine their lives and see for myself if what they profess to believe actually works.

Since the act of becoming God would mean leaving this material world and progressing to a higher level, and since they have explained the two can not co-exist it would seem impossible that we could ever meet someone who had crossed over. Please be advised that I am not even close to becoming a member of The Illuminati but am only repeating what I have read on their website. All I have spoken is "unofficial" but I am sure if you wrote Mike Hockney and showed a genuine interest he would reply. www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/page7.htm

Cheers
Don Barone