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Post by Charlotte on Mar 18, 2010 8:54:33 GMT -5
Hi Don, I sat and watched 2/3 of the film, hoping it wouldn't give me nightmares, and it shut off, good so because I don't like watching movies on the computer and became restless. I do understand why you asked "Commentary?"
Who could but give cursory remarks and from which view point? During the years, you mentioned the previous film now and then and are more familier with going down the Rabbit Hole. The rabbit with its long ears, symbolizing discrmination (as Anubis), and Alice apparently the only sane creatures, but it was the "wrong" Alice.
Lots of weird animals fading in and out, mushrooms and amanita muscaria, Alice drinks and eats part of some sort of cake, reminding one of "one pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small . . . . as you posted the video or words before.
Another view is of the merciless Queen with red hair sitting on her "Heart Throne", hearts everywhere, including the eye-patch of the Knight with whom she is obviously enanomred, and when he says that Alice loves him the Queen shouts "Off with her head!" Undignified crawling up the stairs, another Knight is approaching vaying for the Queens attention. Uncertain and overwhelmed by all the commotion, She commands, "get me a pig", and a "normal" pig runs in, rolls over and lays on its back at Her feet, which is saying as much as in another movie concerning the Queen, "fetch me my Lord Bacon".
Tha't as far as I'll go with it, having to get back to the things that matter. You could say at least a few words, no?
Hope spring is in the air in Canada
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Mar 18, 2010 11:31:40 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte ... I see it just a bit different. If we accept the symbolism either knowingly or unknowingly placed before us we saw that even going to "The End of The World" was not enough for Johnny. So where are we taken next we are taken to "Underland" . However all our lives we are taught that 'Under" is bad. It is Hades, Hell or worse so I put before you that if Alice chooses to stay below then "Under" is our true reality and Above is just a dream to ease the pain of our true existence and if she returns to the surface I suggest that we all must conquer our demons or our Dark World or our Underland before we can rise to our true destiny. But then we must also notice that both Avatar and Alice are concerned with "Dreamscapes" and I must confess that my dreams are getting not only more "weird" but noticeably more real like to be sure. What does it all mean ? I can't even guess but Something Wicked This Way Comes for sure methinks. Best Don Barone PS: Never even noticed all the hearts and of course the pig has to be Lord Bacon. Do you think these people know what they are doing or are they simply being propelled to do these movies unknowingly. Strangely Sherlock Holmes has a similar plot in it as well. Dark World versus The Light or "The Logic"
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Post by Charlotte on Mar 19, 2010 20:56:40 GMT -5
Hi Don, Where is the end of the world? Below, if we travel across our Planet we end up where we started, that is if we want to go 'Home" again. The same holds true above, our beginning is our end, the difference being, below we know where we were born, above depends on where we believe our Origin is. "So are we taken next to the "Underland". However all our lives we are taught that "Under" is bad. It is Hades, Hell or worse...." Here, when asked "where are you going?", some people answer jokingly, "to hell if I don't change my ways!" About what we are taught all our lives, young Francis to the Queen question, "Tell us, little scholar, what is the most necessary for man's estate?" replied, "Madam, to unlearn what has been taught." Yesterday, I also thought of but not wrote of "the symbolism" of the "basement" of Uncle Jung in terms of the various creatures Alice encounters, namely, fierce and fanciful aspects and relations of herself, personified by animals, a dog helper, talking flowers etc., same as in most dreams. "I suggest that we all must conquer our demons or our Dark World or our Underland before we can rise to our true destiny." Err, Don, that's what "The Secrets of the Universe" thread is all about, and more, again, depending what we believe our true destination is. The "Something Wicked This Way Comes" are the Krell, remember? It is no secret that the Underworld is the sub- and unconscious, and the journey through it is shown and told by the Egyptians in detail. The White Rabbit with the long Buddha ears, wisdom, who takes Alice to the Underworld "is a secret member of the Underland Underground Resistance". Brilliant! That Underground Resistance! It's like the "School of Night" whose Members worked tirelessly for a "New World". The Mad Hatter is mad because of mercury poisoning, as were many Hatters, it is explained, and "The Hatter is Alice' ally. They have an understanding about each other. They both feel like outsiders and feel alone in their seperate worlds, and have a special bond and frienship." Like you and me The symbolism of the "Red" and "White" Queen is well known. The White Rabbit makes himself know only to Alice, her future Mother in Law walking with her in the Garden, sees nothing. Before Alice follows the rabbit, she picks a caterpillar of the shoulder of the stuffy, rigid and overly proper Hamish Ascot of traditional life to whom she is betrothed. She looks at the man, cringes and runs after the rabit. The name of the caterpillar is "Absolem", that is "Absolem", who told everyone it's the "wrong" Alice, and whom she meets again in the Underworld. "Absolem, going into his pupa stage, reminds Alice of her past visit to Underland and gives her the courage and belief to fight the Jabberwocky" nonsense of the world, let's say. Alice does not stay in the Underland. "The film ends with Alice sailing away on a ship with Absolem, now as a butterfly, fluttering off and away from her shoulder." Now it's the "right" Alice. Is the interior journey through the Underworld and transformation obvious yet? Do I think "these people know what they are doing or are they simly propelled to these movies unknowingly?" The Plot Summery of the Film, and how the Actors see where inspiration for different characters came from, is given matter-of-factly, gives no indication of a connection to our Queen, but there it is, albeit scanty. It must be via the "secret Underland Underground Resistance, that the name of the "short-tempered" Red Quenn is "Iracebeth", Elisabeth, "stealing the ruling crown from her sister "Mirana", Elizabeth's half sister Mary I. "They are of the same gene pool", their Father Henry VIII. "The knave of hearts - a heart-shaped patch covering his left eye" is "an arrogant, tricky character who follows the Queen's every order", and is "the only one capable of pacifying her and calming her dramatic mood swings". Pretty save to say that meant is Walter Raleigh, but Elizabeth was also partially blinded by Love for Robert Dudley and Christopher Hatton. Maybe there is more toward the end which I didn't see. Neither in the Film nor in the review is the Pig noted, it avoids attention by laying quietly on its back at the bottom of the Throne, ever private in His Endeavors and loyal to His Mother, was Francis. That's my take 2 Love Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Mar 25, 2010 19:48:23 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte and ren et al: ...
My computer is, for the time being DEAD !
I was downloading a program and it stuck so I reloaded and now Windows is caught in a loop and will not reload. it gets to the safe screen at F8 but just keeps looping. I am presently on my ancient one from years ago but my websites seem to be down for the time being.
Tears Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Mar 26, 2010 6:47:12 GMT -5
Hi Don, Hope your computer is out of the loop soon. Last night I dreamed about you and Family visiting LA, but there was so much movement in the dream that I can't remember anything save you looked totally different from the picture here, and the dream was of a "light" nature as in amiable and the entire dream was in the color white. I didn't see Carol or Marianna or Angelica. Speaking of Alice, see here Salt of the Earth solzemli.wordpress.com/Love Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Mar 27, 2010 18:31:09 GMT -5
30 dollars and I am back.
Still not quite up to snuff so I may have to think about a solid state hard drive in the near future ...
Best Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Mar 28, 2010 9:27:42 GMT -5
That's affordable. Carry on, as says Don Barone!
The best returned
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 4, 2010 8:25:59 GMT -5
Happy Easter Holidays to you, Don, Carol, Marianna, and Angelica.
Thanks for posting my visage on facebook, ever my Friend, but I'll send you a different one for 'over there'. I read some of the posts but have almost no time to join and follow all written, though will check in now and then. I was happy to see our Friends from Ma'at are alive and well.
Also, could we please have our serene "Michelle" Image back?
Love
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Apr 4, 2010 23:53:35 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte ...
You ask ... "Also, could we please have our serene "Michelle" Image back? " ... er well I kind of like the symbolism of this image because after all it wasn't Wonderland but UNDERLAND that was visited. and in this case As Below is not necessarily As Above ...
Best Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 5, 2010 11:00:51 GMT -5
Hi Don,
I thought you liked the image for some reason because you left it up longer than you usually do others, however, I reasoned your reason was different from the reason you stated here.
Hermes;
"Secondly,—What is below, is like that which is above; and what is above, is like that which is below: to accomplish the miracle of one thing."
In terms of Uncle Jung, above is within, subjective, and below is without, objective. The Underland and Wonderland of Alice are one and the same, her own Inner World in which she encounters strange aspects of herself, is either baffled or afraid and runs for her life, just as we do in some dreams, though in dreams we are unable to run. Below is the objective world of convention she left, the one she grew up in, the world she is familiar with, the "tonal" or "Home Base", which keeps her somewhat grounded and sane in discovering the complexity of her Nature, so the two worlds interact or "mingle", -Hermes.
We have an inborn "Disziplinarian", who can become tyrannical when we judge ourselves too harsh, the Red Queen, whereas the White Queen symbolizes our loving Nature and as in the film offer to make peace.
The "Mad Hatter" is Alice' friend because there is a mercurial or transformational element or faculty in us enabling us to change our Mind and Heart in the lesser and transmuting lead to gold in the greatest.
And that brings us to the caterpillar "ABSOLEM", whom Alice picked off the shoulder of her stuffy and stiff betrothed "Hamish", living the conventional life, below, which she couldn't endure, and threw it in the grass, and whom she met again in the "Underland/Underworld", and the article reads: "Absolem, going into his pupa stage, reminds Alice of her past visit to Underland and gives her the courage to fight the Jabberwocky", and "the film ends with Alice sailing away on a ship with Absolem, now as a butterfly, fluttering off and away from her shoulder". And that is accomplishing the miracle of the one needful thing.
There is no such things "As Below is not necessarly As Above", it is always "As Above So Below" - "As Below So Above". Hermes, the Highest Authority:
Firstly,—I speak not ficticious things, but that which is certain and most true."
On Earth as it is in Heaven
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 6, 2010 7:20:00 GMT -5
When I read such posts of mine as yesterday, it appears as if I speak with authority, which in All is but my understanding of things, as also 100 thoughts cross my mind while writing.
It is obvious, however, that Above so Below is not a matter of direction in the phenomenal Universe, as the firmament above with all its heavenly bodies is not as our Earth below, rather Above is Man the Mocrocosm as within us is the Sun, are stars and planets. Thought is Above and depending, fashions our lives and world, but Thought is "the Slayer of the Real", and how many are there that can stop thinking to reach "the Peace that passeth all understanding". 'Tis all easier said than done.
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 8, 2010 7:50:55 GMT -5
Ah Don, a million Thanks! Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 26, 2010 7:40:56 GMT -5
Hi Don,
I was in Canada last night. Your house was large, Carol, Marianna, and Angelica were also there, though I never saw the girls. I walked to the end into a room and saw you, (as in the other dream) you didn't look like you, as a sort of news anchor on about a 42" TV screen, was surprised and thought, 'Don has his own TV show, I didn't know that'. I looked out of the window, saw several waterfalls and thought that they were much smaller than Niagara Falls.
Then I walked along the hallway with many rooms, you passed by me without saying a word, and again I noticed how you didn't look like you. Carol, you, and I walked to a window, saw a sort of bay and I asked, "Is this the Ocean?" Carol said "no, it is...." I forgot, and you kissed her. Actually, you kissed her several times during the dream. It began to snow, more of a snow flurry, and I thought how great to see snow before I leave.
I drove home and noticed it was about 11:30 AM, and was surprised that it only took a few hours from Canada to California, in which case I could visit more often, and even had time to wash my clothes. I gathered my belongings, stepped out of the car into sand, saw various coins, many rare One Dollar Coins. I gathered them and put them in a cloth pouch, I bent down to pick up more and while trying to keep my clothes under my arm some of them fell out. The same I picked up again, espied more, removed the sand, and the more sand I cleared away the more coins I found. I thought I have to take my clothes inside so my hands are free to pick up more coins.
As usual in a dream, there are many other inmpessions impossible to put in words.
Was it snowing last night?
Love
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 27, 2010 8:26:17 GMT -5
Hi Don, Not about cats and such we communicated about, I forgot to mention to you this morning two things that stood out in the dream, namely, seeing you on the TV screen your ears were covered with large head-phones such as musicians wear when singing, and passing me in the hall you walked sort of sideways and briskly as if in a hurry barely making the corner into the room where we watched the water falls. Perhaps you had to get back to your Planetary explorations, your own TV show I cheer you on! Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Apr 29, 2010 7:54:19 GMT -5
Ah Don, Thanks for this Image, brings the Vesica Piscis to Mind also.
Cheers
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on May 1, 2010 8:27:13 GMT -5
Charlotte to Admiral Don riding a most marvelous Tsunami and may God's Love be with you!!!! God it's gorgeous, can't stop looking at it - we're in Space.... All I can offer as a Thank You apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap091111.htmlHe's got the Whole World in His Hand! And those Masons yea? Love Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on May 3, 2010 7:17:13 GMT -5
I empathize with you and your Family, Don. What a beautiful cat your Tigger, now in cat heaven with our Yin and Yang, Gozilla, Midnight, and Schlimpi. Maybe he will come to you in dreams as did Schlimpi to me.
I know how close Tigger was to you and I'm so sorry for thy loss.
Have a good day
Love
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on May 5, 2010 8:37:37 GMT -5
You took Tigger away. I hope you and Family are feeling better.
Sincerely
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on May 5, 2010 8:54:45 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte we are coping. It was too painful to see him up there every time I came here. It is strange but the other 4 cats I think sense the loss. They have all become much more cuddle buns. The second eldest next to Tigger is Loki and you can almost see the pain and sorrow in her face. It is not a good time ... as I keep expecting Tigger to come running into the bedroom and jump onto the bed. Don Barone
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Post by Don Barone on May 12, 2010 6:58:58 GMT -5
I am afraid that one of my external hard drives has failed and along with it went 500 GB's and 10 years of accumulated stuff. I have part of it saved but lot's may be gone forever. Sometimes life can be so cruel.
It had been acting up lately so I manged to save most of my websites and images but there is plenty I think I did not save.
I will be switching over to another external hard drive right after I bring Marianna to school and then will load all recent images into it. But the rest ... well it has not been a good last 30 days.
Well, well, well it decided to come back and allow my computer to read it. Strange ..
Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on May 12, 2010 9:23:26 GMT -5
Computer catching up with Don Seems to me you had good last 30 days. Here is a song for Marianna, term of endearment in German: Mariandl. The song of the Admirer: your name sounds like a lovely word, it isn't the Danube, the Rhine or the Wine, but my love for you that makes me sing this song. Wish it were more high-spirited as we sing it, maybe the Lady didn't have enough Wine yet. Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on May 29, 2010 9:00:36 GMT -5
The Temple of the Light of God, also the human body
"Do you not know, O Asclepius, that Egypt is a copy of Heaven, or rather, the place where here below are mediated and projected all operations which govern and actuate the heavenly forces? Even more than that, if the whole truth is to be told, our land is the temple of the entire world."
Hermes
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 14, 2010 8:29:26 GMT -5
Hi Don,
Seems all is well, I read some of your stuff on facebook, but have so little time at the moment to post or follow anything there, or here.
You remember suggesting my picture on facebook and Steven also suggested an image, but for the longest time I have been thinking about sending some more pictures to you and ask the favor of posting them for me.
One is of a Donkey and me by the GP, which I would like to have on my Profile on facebook, the others can be on our "Ancient Egypt" thread.
I would much appreciate if I could send them to you to post and thank you in advance.
Hope all in All is well
Love
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 17, 2010 9:14:05 GMT -5
My good Friend Don I'll take the liberty of sending you the pictures, a even, for thy kind consideration. Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 26, 2010 7:46:49 GMT -5
Seems the technical problems have been fixed, Logo and pictures are back, thanks Don.
Since the Universal Secrets have move mostly to fb, and all that could be said has been said, Steven and I agreed, I have to regroup somewhat. Though not here, I'm rewriting "Charlotte's Web and Francis Bacon", and there are several subjects on my Mind to write about.
Generally speaking, facebook is nice in its mostly fleeting moments, with some exceptions, and nice to see People from what seems a former life-time, but I like to keep creating my own Universe here at Home, and so much is yet unsaid.
Good Day to All
Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Aug 29, 2010 21:38:40 GMT -5
How strange life is ... For the first time in almost 11 years I have the urge, which I used to get every August, to start collecting books. I used to kid that I was just like a squirrel and the earlier I started collecting the tougher the winter was going to be. Coincidentally with this is an apathy to anything Giza, Egypt and mathematical. I really just don't give a damn anymore and when I see the post over a Ma'at in the Alternative section it holds no fascination for me anymore at all. It is almost as if the last 11 years never happened. I am in the midst of setting up a store at ebay ... my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbay&gbh=1&CurrentPage=MyeBayAllSelling&ssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK:MESX and trying to sell off some of my collection of books so that I can buy others. I think my contribution to the alternative field, if there ever was any, is over. However as I sit here and look at the old images on the pulps of the 1930's and 1940's I get a strange feeling of deja vu and it never ceases to cause me to question how it all came about. What came about ? Well the birth of all the superheroes at about the same time in 1938, 1939 and 1940. It is like a kick in our pants to start thinking about the stars and the beginning of thinking outside the box. Anyway it is a very strange feeling I get as I look at the old images, a feeling that I really just can't describe. Anyway to see a site that has virtually all the old images listed go here ... www.collectorshowcase.fr/pulps__magazines_americains.htm And just coincidentally today I discovered that all the old Weird Tales and Horror Tales and Terror Tales are being reprinted and believe it or not they are only being reprinted and available at one source and that source is only about a 30 minute drive from my house. I have set up a meeting with the owner on Thursday to take a look at some of the books. Apparently they are identical is size and all other respects other than a note on the inside back of the cover. Here is the site: www.girasolcollectables.com/ And just a quick observation here. Here is the cover of a pulp I own from October of 1939. As amazing as that cover it what is on the back is even more interesting. It is an image of an Atomic Power Plant as envisioned for the year 1989. I have often made note of the fact that we were awakened in the late 60's but actually it began in the beat generation of the 50's but as I now begin to think it may have begun even earlier than I had first thought for isn't all this fascination with things extraterrestrial really an awakening in it's own respect ? All I can say is .... Yesterday, a child came out to wander Caught a dragonfly inside a jar Fearful when the sky was full of thunder And tearful at the falling of a star And the seasons they go 'round and 'round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game Then, the child moved ten times 'round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams Words like, "When you're older", must appease him And promises of someday make his dreams Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now Cartwheels turn to car wheels through the town And they tell him, "Take your time. It won't be long now. 'Til you drag your feet to slow the circles down" And the seasons they go 'round and 'round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty Before the last revolving year is through. And the seasons they go 'round and 'round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return, we can only look behind From where we came And go round and 'round and 'round In the circle game And go 'round and 'round and 'round in the circle game. Amen
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 31, 2010 9:55:22 GMT -5
I think that all along life unfolds as it does according to our gradual awakening from amnesia for all is recorded in us. As said since God knows when: Know Thyself and you know all else.
Love
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Sept 27, 2010 6:38:01 GMT -5
Hi Don, I trust all is well with You and the Family, please say Hallo Been meaning to come back here to continue my translation of the Adventures of Captain Wolfgang. I read ahead some and we're almost in Virginia! From what I can discern thus far, we're in for a vast and grand story. I am also rewriting "Charlotte's Web", trying to read several books, work, keep up on fb, and oh so little time. Greetings and best wishes also to the Readers! Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Sept 29, 2010 7:49:47 GMT -5
Hi Don, I saw your post next door and am glad it was retitled The Secret of The Sacred Panel I remember well how moved I was looking at the face of Tom R. when we wrote about "Satan's Song" some time back. On the link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arma_Christi you gave, if you scroll down you see the Cross on the right is not identifyed. This Cross I happened upon studying Orthodox Christianity, as you can see the Ladder is the slanted Cross Bar of the Orthodox Cross. On the link, if you click below the first engraving on Master E. S., ca 1460, you will read that Master E. S. (1420 - 1468) ("previously known as the Master of 1466) is an unidentified German engraver, goldsmith, and printmaker of the late Gothic period." And so on. All sorts of Associations " Anton Koberger (c. 1440/1445 - 3 October 1513) was the German Golsmith, printer and publisher of the Nuremberg Chronicle, a landmark of incunabula, and was a successful bookseller of the works from other printers. He established in 1470 the first printing house in Nuremberg. "Koberger was the godfather of Albrecht Dürer, whose family lived on the same street. In the year before Dürer's birth in 1471 he ceased goldsmithing to become a printer and publisher." Koberger "printed numerous works simultaneously", employing "printers, typesetters, typefounders, illuminators...." ILLUMINATORS who translated the Emerald Tablets of Hermes. "Anton Koberger was born to an established Nuremberg family of Bakers....", Bakers it reads, but when ever goldsmithing is mentioned one's ears should perk up. In my thread "A second Sun and a frightful spectacle", conserning the "Island Felsenburg", I wrote quiet a bit about the "Nuremberg Chronicle", very very interesting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_KobergerIn the link click on Saint Eligius, "patron Saint of goldsmiths, and other metal workers, and coin collectors. He is also the patron saint of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers (REME), a corps of the British Army...." read on, and his Biography. "Clotaire II, king of the Franks, is said tohave commissioned him (the Saint) to make a throne of gold adorned with precious stones. "And from that which he had taken for a single piece of work, he was able to make two. Incredibly, he could do it all from the same weight for he had accomplished the work commissioned from him without any fraud or mixture of siliquae, or any other fraudulence. Not claiming fragments bitten off by the file or using the devouring flame of the furnace for an excuse, but filling all faithfully with gems, he happily earned his happy reward." 'Tis alchemical language, for this reason "Indeed King Dogobert, swift, handsome and famous with no rival among the earlier kings of the Franks, loved him so much that he would often take himself out of the crowds of princes, optimates, dukes and bishops around him and seek private council from Eligius. "Then you would see him, (Saint Eligius)whom you had once seen gleaming with the weight of gold and gems that covered him, go covered in the vilest clothing, with a rope for a belt." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_EligiusIf you read only what his friend said, and what is in quotation, and other than dates and places, ignore the face value explanation of the historians, much can be gleaned in the article. The Saints were "Wonder-workers", the "happy reward" in Orthodoxy and divine Poetry is the "Crown". I wrote this because the Kruzifix Arma Christi, the Nuremberg Chronicle, and "phenomena over Nuremberg and Constantinope", the Florentine and English Renaissance, Robinson Crusoe and the "Island Felsenburg" which I am translating, the Colonization of America, the last 600 years, roughly, before this the Saints and Church Fathers, and almost overwhelming more, all hang together, and all to one end as written out in "The Secrets of the Universe". This may also be of interest en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_the_Playing_CardsHave a great day Charlotte
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Post by Don Barone on Sept 30, 2010 16:19:36 GMT -5
A moments silence ...
... for a great vehicle, a 1999 Ford Windstar which unfortunately has started smoking from the fan motor for the radiator and of course that means the car is overheating and well that compounded with all the other things that are wrong with it means I will have to put it down.
1999 Blue Windstar
August 25th, 1999 to Sept 30th 2010
May you rest in piece(s)
Amen
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