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Post by Don Barone on May 25, 2007 8:31:59 GMT -5
Hi all ... Here is another example I have found of the 3/3rds and 1/4 grid. cheers and enjoy .... Best when in the light Don Barone
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Post by ghia on May 26, 2007 2:44:56 GMT -5
Thanks for #29, Don, that definitely doesn't wig me as much! I understand what you're up to and this is the time for it to 'blossom', so keep up the great work. Scott's presentation was cool , did you see it? What's cool is you guys are working on different aspects. I am really interested in the plans being up on a wall , like you suggest...so keep it up, it will please the Queen's Kingdom!!!!
BB, Ghia
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Post by PMacG on May 26, 2007 5:30:59 GMT -5
Hi Don and Ghia.
No I haven't looked at Scott's presentation, but will take a peak, even though he never did give me a satisfactory explanation as to where he got his figures for Precession from - just to say the angle of the GP is 51,84 did not impress me, though maybe true, but it does not give proof for its use to show Precession (one swallow doesn't make a summer - though it's a start). So maybe this new workings will give more details of the values found in the Hexagrams. (Should have just gone and looked, but in a hurry).
I'm sorry but I find myself in a difficult position now concerning the Pyramids, but I have no reason to question your figures Don at all, nor do I question many of your conclusions, but I have found a way to fit all the pyramids exactly together in use of the whole and a 1/2 and division of the circle I mentioned to you (now within three and 4 intersecting circles - and possibly more). Your red line does appear to be at 45 degrees in these workings, and it makes up part of the workings as I already explained, so it's actual length is not of such interest to me in just finding the same measures and joining lines from point to point.
So it is only right that I leave this discussion on Pyramids, as it might be seen that I have vested interests in my own work and as yet are not in a final position to put it forward, but I will endeavor to put forward what I've found as soon as poss. By the way 'The Barone Line' seems to be a good name, I shall use it if that's OK even though I will give it an extension (and would you believe it is an exact double extension so it must be 4000 cubits).
All the best - Paul.
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Post by ghia on May 26, 2007 5:53:15 GMT -5
Pmacg, that his latest on GHMB, which thank the Gods, I pleaded for a Powerpoint presentation before he was ready to present it. it sure is cool for what his theory is . I did ask where he thought 2012 fell on the clock. Top of the mornin to you PMACG, and all other arisors!
BB, Ghia
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Post by PMacG on May 26, 2007 9:03:00 GMT -5
Hi Ghia. A lot of people seem to be having computer problems right now. The links are not workings to Scott's work and his last entry now gives 888.com gambling site. I will have to wait until he gets the problem sorted, I would be most interest to see that he has equated Precession to the GPs with a more definite form than before, as if so, we could then move on to unite the GPs with the workings of time as given in the Hexagrams or Stars/Seals that give the law of the sacred mountain. I know the Hexagrams give the exact values of both time and space (movements of Heaven and dimensions of Earth - you can visit my for a free draft download or the URL, I put up previously for a full PDF but here it is again). homepage.mac.com/paulmartynsmith/FileSharing16.html - sorry its 330 pages and a 24.2 mb download. I can see the same base of divisions in the GPs but my book deals mainly with maths of the Book of Changes. I'll have to get this drawing of the GPs posted in the next week, or maybe Scott's done it already so all is well and good. If you haven't visited www.wavewrights.com/pub/eh_oracle/site/index.html - then click on - Origins - He Tu and Lo Shu then please do so, as it shows how the maths fits into the Magic Square of Time (which the Greeks knew about as the Magic Square of Cronus). Keep us posted, or if you have a working URL for Scott's work then would be grateful - Paul.
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Post by ghia on May 26, 2007 14:40:39 GMT -5
Hey, I checked and I still have it in My Recent Files on PP. Unfortunately, I didn't Save it and it's not accessable...is what I get for a message... The site says the Bandwidth has been exceeded and it's unavailable. I hope he saved it and that it's not lost. All my email disappeared that day , too.
I guess I'll peruse your link suggestions though Pmacg.
BB, Ghia
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Post by ghia on May 26, 2007 22:06:52 GMT -5
Hi again, I just made it to page 7! I've been cleaning all day, a rare happening! Everything you write, Pmac, is alot like reading about my own journey and my perspective. So with joy, do I continue to read....Might take a while! I was hoping i could get a 'Course' from you.... ask and you shall recieve! I'm sorry to read of your loss . And i was glad to see your intro on the I Ching site. Merry Meet, indeed!
Sorry Don, I'm not trying to hijack this topic... that'll be it.
BB, Ghia
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Post by Don Barone on May 26, 2007 23:27:22 GMT -5
Hi ghia ... not to worry for it all ties into the "whole" And on this board there is only one rule about threads ... there are no rules Well ... within reason. Please carry on ! Presently I am working on a refinement of my 4/4, 3/3 and 1/7 grid system. I am trying to lay out Giza, this time using only a tape measure ( stretching of the cord) and sighting rod or just maybe a plumb bob. what I have found is most interesting and I believe given my obsessive nature I just might solve it eventually but a stupid thing like work got in the way today and it will have to be dealt with again to-morrow. Cheers and stay tuned Oh here is an image submitted by Wayne Taylor. He had the arcs drawn I added the heavier lines and the 1/3rd mark and 1/4 mark as well as the lines defining the triangles and pyramids. Interesting place, geometrically speaking this Giza Plateau. Best in the light Don Barone
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Post by PMacG on May 27, 2007 6:50:25 GMT -5
Hi Don.
The P3 is the P that puts it all into form for me in my compass and line drawings, and to get a quick idea of why one can take the radius of the circle found between the centre of P3 and the Valley Temple, whose length can be confirmed because it is the same as between the centre of P3 and the SW corner of the GP, and then use the centre of the GP to draw the same circle. When one divides this circle up around the GP the 6th divisions so 2 of them fall on the east/west line, one will then see that the ark from the NW/SW 6th division when carried on falls exactly again through the centre of P3 (as in the sign of the fish - Vesica Pisces).
I think we are very similar Don, people used to tell me I was like a dog at a bone - I took it as a compliment even though they might not of thought so when saying it. I can say that even though I have this trait I have tried to channel it towards getting the job done and not proving opinions of forethought - that's why I truly remain very engaged with what you are doing in actually seeking to find what is there without a predetermined outcome.
To - Ghia. I read your story, and you like me have had an interesting life - and often we are judged for it by others, but experience is the bringer of wisdom. I'm also very lucky to be here writing this, as by the skin of the teeth, so they say. If my life allows I will be returning to UK and hopefully near Glastonbury with some very old friends from 'The Gate' who like me were called the 'First Ones' by the locals. If this happens I would like to teach (well share is a better word). Anyway - I hope you enjoy the book, if you have any questions or whatever please just ask.
Please keep me posted about Scott's work - I'm sincerely interested in seeing it, I hope he's got the time count to work. Sorry to hear about all the problems with the systems. Indeed I hope W. C. Sally overcomes her problem, which is preventing her from joining the forum as she had some good input on the geometric structure and binary information downloads present in the DNA Helix (which I have posted about before here and GHMB).
I shall try and now return to my posting on the maths of the BOC and get out of Don's hair on his post here.
Blessings to all - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on May 27, 2007 9:38:08 GMT -5
Hi Don, Daz, Bernhard, Paul, and ghia, Finally a breather About precession, can anyone tell me if the AE meant the ca 26,000 year greater sideral cycle when telling Herodotus that they had been keeping time for so long that the sun has risen twice where it now sets, and has set twice where it now rises? Concerning the geometry and mathematics of Giza and the Pyramids, the extraordinay Arabik Account has not left my mind since first I read it: "The greatest part of Chronologers agree, the he which ( my emphasis) built the Pyramids, was Saurid Ibn Salhouk, King of Egypt, who lived three hundred years before the flood." The King had a dream in which he saw a flood and great destruction of the earth oncoming. He called the "chief Priests of all the Provinces of Egypt, an hundred and thirty priests, the chief of them was called Aclimum." They consulted the stars and "foretold" that a flood was indeed coming to the land of Egypt. "And there remained a certain number of years to come, and he commanded in the mean space to build the Pyramids, and that a vault (or cisterne) should be made, into which the river Nilus should enter, from whence it should runne into the countries of the West, and into the land Al-Said." The cisterne or vault is under the Sphinx, it is still full of water and some things, the locals tell me, and according to them also, the land of Al-Said is that of "slaves" to ignorance. The Nilus flowing from the Sphinx into "the countries of the West" is knowledge flowing from Ethiopia, whence "they fetched the massy stones" for the "foundation of the three Pyramids", or the fundamental knowledge which built the Pyramids. The Nile being "the river from the Moon." And this is for you Don "And he filled them (the Pyramids) with talismans, and with strange things, and with riches, and treasures, and the like. He engraved in them all things that were told to him by wise men, as also all profound sciences, the names of alakakirs, the uses, and hurts of them. The science of Astrology, and of Arithmaticke, and of Geometry, and of Physicke. All this may be interpreted by him that knowes their characters, and language." As of late, there is much talk about the Egyptians having had knowledge we can only aspire too. In this account is stated, the King: "He put also in the coloured Pyramid (the third), the commentaries of the priests, in chests of black marble, and with every Priest a booke, in which were the wonders of his profession, and of his actions, and of his nature, and what was done in his time, and what is, and what shall be, from the beginning of time, to the end of it." All these wonders were passed on to the Egyptians by the "wise men" that were before them, the "great white crowned gang" who built the Pyramids, ancestors of the Hopi and Maya, and all current humanity. It is a marvelous account above and below, astronomical and alchemical, this tale of "the Arabians: which traditions of theirs are little better than a romance." Charlotte
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Post by ghia on May 27, 2007 21:28:57 GMT -5
Ms. Charlotte, sorry, I've arrived very late in the day, perspectively, and I'd have to sriously update my research before I would dare respond to your inquiries. So, I beg pardon until I have caught up. Pmac, I just wanted to say that 2 Peacocks were always my symbols, the last year and 1/2 or so, it's 2 Dragon's. I have them every where I look practically, in my room and then the house. What do you think it means from your point of veiw? Someone suggested to me recently that I find the message. The person is not a person whom I would consider such a message from. I know it is my subconcious moving me through another 'movement'! i just wonder if you have insite into which one? On Page 24!!!! BB, Ghia PS: Caught up with Glastonbury, kinda, I don't really know much about it , but it was on TV tonite.
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Post by PMacG on May 28, 2007 7:14:21 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte, Ghia, and sorry to Don for messing up his posting on the GPs again.
Well it certainly sounds right for Precession, wouldn't be a small year as that wouldn't be much to brag about would it. I know Scott Creighton has mentioned about the light and dark values of Precession as being 12.960 years of light and 12,960 years of dark and equated them with the flood, and as you are aware the 25,920 years of Precession are made up of these light and dark values in the Lo Shu (again all I'll say is that Scott's values are given in the BOC), and the Egyptians seem to give two periods of Precession = 51.840 years or a 720 degrees revolution of Precession. Maybe the message in your quote was that they knew of this count in great detail, and that they had indeed linked to the cycles of the solar system to times of inundation of darkness/destruction which comes down to us from Heaven (from the great waters). We know that these cycles bring us through certain plains of events in various ways, but we have not yet got to a point where we now understand them fully. We are like children compared to those guys, and we are still playing with this new toy and we don't know yet quite what all its tricks are.
There is one thing that struck me in the texts of the Changes in respect of us having to change our form from the opposites sides of existing in a body of energy, or of taking on physical form, thereby light/spirit becomes immersed in water or the dark physical body. Thoth and all the other texts and practices from the AE tell us not become attached the transient physical aspect and to hold firmly to the spirit if we wish to escape from danger, so it is made plain to us what the score is.
The physical form is linked to the dark or water, the other is light and fire, and as Ghia asked about the two dragons, they give us this image of two sides of winged flight, one is of Heaven, the other of Earth, and as such they are the primal polarities of opposites of creation that turn the great churning pole (the gods and demons - light and dark, yellow and black). The texts of BOC says that the two dragons of yellow and black fight upon the field (the meadow = a field which for half the year is under water) in the process of creation, and that the dragons are linked to the lines of energy in the Hexagrams, which are dragon lines (the wise man rises into heaven as though on the back of 6 headless dragons - the creative process attains heaven through its works on earth). Therefore the process of creation that takes place within the 6 lines of physical creation is risen above when we attain the clear 7th position (the 7th step of the Sacred Mountain) which stands above in a clear place of rest.
When we look at the construction of the body it has 6 physical levels in the Chakra, plus the 7th clear central position of concentration, and this is the same in the Sacred Mountain (Meru), as the kings and rulers climbed the steps to attain the realm of heaven (the 7th step). In the image of a Buddha (one who knows wisdom - Dharma) he is portrayed sitting under the 7 cobra/serpents of the Nadi, as in his clear position of observation he escapes all the cycles of time/space - birth and death. We can thereby bring all of the levels into what we view in mind, so in practice we can see the maths, we can perceive the dragons at play as all that we think is ours personally is only following universal forces common to all things, and we can transcend them.
Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on May 28, 2007 7:58:52 GMT -5
Uhh Ms. ghia I'm just Charlotte, and it is our good fortune to have great teachers - everywhere! Speaking of peacocks, they are so numerous where I work that we have to drive slow and stop many times to let them cross the street, and listen to their plaintive shriek all day. At dusk they fly high up in the trees and sleep there, one wonders how they navigate the branches with their big wingspan. The males shed and regrow their beautiful plumage every year so you can just walk along and gather hundreds of them. Other, they are a symbol of occult knowledge, probably because they have so many eyes, and also because early in the morning they dig up big patches of grass to get to the earth worms, the first segemented chain in the world of form. As with us too, it is the early bird that catches the worm, or learns about the beginning of phenomenal life. 2 dragons? Huh, red and white, they fight under your castle and you have to call Merlin to subdue them, but that's another thread. I bet Paul can tell us about them Charlotte PS I just saw Paul's post and as usual, he explains the dragons also perfectly.
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Post by PMacG on May 28, 2007 15:33:40 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
I'm not too hot on the Welsh fighting dragon's, though I met a few when I lived in Chester. One of them breathed fire on the Social Security Office and blew it up, and as I was walking nearby I got showed with glass, dust, and dead pigeons.
Regards - Paul.
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Post by ghia on May 31, 2007 20:45:11 GMT -5
Hi people! Scott Creighton's presentations are back up. The links are next door GHMB, Mysteries! I'm excited for him! Check it out, I veiwed the Powerpoint version 'cause thats all I can receive. It's also a slide show so you can take your time ....my speed slow!
BB, Ghia
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