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Post by PMacG on Jun 18, 2007 6:40:10 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte.
Here rests his vessel/mind/capital upon of the measure of earth. (lap = circuit of). Fame - public report, or rumour. Fortuna, luck, fate, destiny, tyche The most famous story surrounding the goddess's cult was the finding of tablets of oak covered in mysterious formula through which an oracle could be delivered. In this one can find references to Greek myth and Alchemy, as Melancholia, the black, or as night, as with the other reference we looked at in last post, means rebirth a returning of the light. See Durer's painting Melencolia - the two tie together with Jupiter, in Fortuna and the magic square of, now isn't that a strange turn of fate?
To continue, well I'm sorry Charlotte it might have to wait, my mother in law is dying of cancer and a journey is called for soon. But I hope this might be of help.
As soon as possible I'll have a look at more of it and try and get some more sense out this bit - but look at the roots of the words and the Greek myths, I feel its there - Paul.
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Post by ghia on Jun 18, 2007 8:16:25 GMT -5
Oh hi Paul, Oh, I'm sorry to hear about your Mother-in-law, keep your spirit up. I'll be thinking of you and of her transitioning without pain, and with peace. I'm actualy glad to see what it was you were implying on GHMB...don't go off the deep edge.
Charlotte, i did get a chance to peek at the FB site, thanks...it'll have to be a summer project to study.
I'll bring you all with me to the Shaman.
Ghia/ Christine
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Post by PMacG on Jun 18, 2007 8:32:54 GMT -5
Hi Ghia.
Didn't quite understand about the Shaman and the ethernet I was expecting to see a link but no problems I'll have to get on my own super-highway, hope to see your report when you get back, if you wish to give it of course.
All the best - Paul.
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 18, 2007 9:01:28 GMT -5
Hi Charlotte (always one for each of The Pyramids ! ) I would dearly love to sit down and watch National Treasure with your commentary in the background. Perhaps when I win the Lottery and National Treasure II: The Book of Secrets comes out we can have a Double Feature . Hey Don (just for you) I'm waiting for the Book of Secrets too If anyone cares, a correction to my last post: it was Shakespeare the 10th (X), not 13th (XIII), and his tribe who inhabitet the "tobacco island" of Jamestown on which Dr. Dolittle, the "sweet Prince" with his potted roses and an enormous stack of large, ancient books, was shipwrecked in a tempest. Meanwhile my latest imagery from Giza ... It has a certain charm to it ... Yes, I know, your line dancing and circling "Dawn is breaking everywhere" Jerry Charlotte the dumbfounded cheers and Love as always Don Barone
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 18, 2007 9:10:57 GMT -5
Thanks Paul, I glean a deeper layer here and will look at it.
I wish your mother in law good easy days and say a pryer . . . .
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 19, 2007 8:27:21 GMT -5
Sorry ghia, time ran out on me yesterday. It takes up all one's time to study the life and works of Francis Bacon/Shakespeare, the more one reads the greater and grander it gets, and in view of this I know that I practically know nothing. A few Bacon bits at a time is all I can eat, the digesting and assimilating is another matter, who knows, you might become a fan Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 21, 2007 8:28:11 GMT -5
Back to the movie It was Ian or Riley who said that the the idea of a legned, or a map, on the back of the DOI is silly because there isn't, not Ben. Having removed the wooden coffin, Ben et all make their way down the stairs, Abigail walks by Ben and he can't help but kiss her quickly, she gives him a happy smile and keeps walking. They find themselves in an old, dark "room" and see a chandelier on which burns a small flame as if having been burning there "forever." Ben touches his torch to the chandelier igniting it to form a bright, cone shaped flame. For no apparent reason he loosens the rope, the chandelier begins to turn, then fastens the rope again, maybe to draw attention to it. They see elevators. One of Ian's men marvels how "a bunch of guys - built all this" with primitive tools, and Ben remarks: "The same way they built the Pyramids and the Great Wall of China, implying one principal building Guild, but Riley thinks "the aliens helped them." Ian heard and had enough, he wants the treasure, that's all. Ian orders Ben's father to test the creaky stairs, Patrick refuses, but Ben has faith and tells his dad to go ahead. Patrick looks up at the unusual chandelier which shape and flickering flames make it look mystical. Who would have ever thought of looking for the treasure "right under the Trinity Graveyard", which is "probably why nobody ever found it." Ben. The stairs give way and Shaw plunges down the abyss. Before they could regain their composure, the entire structure begins to collapse, but all, including the DOI survive. It's not worth risking our lives, says Ben to Ian, but Ian is really angry now because he suspects Ben knows more than he is willing to say. They make it to a room but find no treasure, only a lit lantern. Everybody is disappointed, Riley can't believe they "came all this way to a dead end." Ben finally looses his cool, that's it, there are no more clues, no treasure, it's gone: "Looks like someone got here first, it may have even been gone before Charles Carrol told the story to Thomas Gates", the coach driver - Ben's grandfather - and Ben, the three interchangable, or knowledge handed from generation to generation. The treasure I am talking about has actually been moved from Jamestown to a more secure location. It's a great conspiracy Ian doesn't believe a word Ben is saying and threatens to leave them there to die. Riley suggests they may "talk it over", he has a life to live, but Ian, gun cocked, demands to know the next clue to the treasure. It's a matter of life and death now, "the status quo has changed", and Patrick tells Ian "the lantern" is the next clue. It's about an old Mason teaching. Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 22, 2007 9:13:24 GMT -5
"Where is the treasure?" Ian demands to know the next clue, either that or he will leave Ben and his friends to die in that place under the Trinity Church in New York. Against Ben's advice, his dad buys time by making up a story about "the lantern", which he says, "is part of free Masons teachings. In King Solomon's Temple there was a winding staircase, it signified the journey that had to be taken to find the Light of Truth." www.lightoftruth.com/Freemasonry/NationalTreasure.htmThe lantern "under the winding staircase of the steeple" in the "North Church" in Boston is the next clue. Ian falls for it, heads to Boston, and leaves the good guys to their fait. Riley is reall worried now, either they face a slow death there, or Ian comes back and kills them later. Meanwhile Ben has spied the all-seeing eye and a button. He assures Riley that nobody is going to dies because "there is another way out - through the treasure room." He pushes the button and concrete breaks away, a good sign and everyone is hopeful and smiling. Ben and his dad push against a stone-door and the first thing they see is a flickering flame, seemingly burning there forever. They enter yet another room and see by the light of their torches that it too is empty. Riley thinks "someone got here first", Ben finds his voice again and laments "it's gone", and wonders if the treasure might have been gone "even before Thomas Carroll told the story to Thomas Gates." Patrick comforts his son "it doesn't matter, this room is real and it means the treasure is real, we are in the company of some of the most brilliant minds in history because you found what they left behind for us to find and understood the meaning of it." Ben did it for the Gates Family, his "grandfather" and "all of us." That means "US" the people of the world. Patrick has never been so happy in all his life, the search was not in vain, but Ben is yet deeply disappointed because he thought that he would "really find a treasure." Patrick is not ready to give up just yet and suggests that they "just keep looking for it." Abigail is in it for the long run, me too, "ok" says Ben, but Johnny-Rain-Cloud-Riley thinks "it's not gonna happen", they are still trapped, and wants to know first of all where "the other way out" is. Ben surmises that the builders would have surely "cut a secondary shaft for air and in case of cave-ins", and with renewd hope they keep looking. Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 23, 2007 13:19:58 GMT -5
It's Saturday and a long story, hope I don't give you a headache "A mighty stream of men merged their fates with the turbulent waters of the Atlantic Ocean and thereby received their baptism henceforth to be members of a new race, inhabitants of Bacon's New Atlantis, AMERIKA. "The Constitution of the United States, and the main course of its History, were predetermined and carried out in accordance with Sir Francis Bacon's plan of Empire-building. The Declaration of Independence was conceived long before it was brought to life." And then Fern hit the round glass table with her fist: "Who the hell needs an empire . . . ." The treasure "may have been gone before Charles Carroll told his story to Thomas Gates" on that fateful and stormy night in 1832. Here, Ben, or the script writers, recall the beginning of the movie and how the, "a treasure beyond all imaginings" was conveyed by a Mason to one of the Gates Family, Knights, hence the Templar Lineage. You can tell just by Ben's innocent and harmless mask, though his perspicacity - (a word Wilbur uses being beside himself with joy when he can finally talk) "I'm working on it" can hardly be missed. I haven't come across why the name "Gates", perhaps because Bill Gates is the richest man in the world. Please note that roughly a haf century ago, Fern referred to what is now known as the "National Treasure" as "New Age Treasure", or "documentary treasure." As noted before, her style of wording and writing is filtered through the German language, and jealously guarding her written words she did not allow much editing, actually none at all when it came right down to it. She would say to me: we can read it together and you can suggest how I can put it better and simpler for the little people to understand because the intellectually contaminated brick-heads wont hear any of it. It was like the blind in the English language helping the blind in the English language and we fell over laughing at times, when she was in a good mood, that is Finding themselves in a treasure-less room, the Gates gang is ever so disapponted, Riley thinks "someone got here first", and Ben sighs "it's gone." Just like Egyptologists and archaeologists when told by some inscription of great wealth and find nothing, and console themselves that grave robbers got there first, never suspecting they entered a false door, so to speak. For Europe is with child, and shall bring forth a strong child, who is in need of a great godfather's gift. Nathaniel Bacon bits In 1635, nine years after Lord Bacon's death, the vast treasure or "gift" of the godfather of America who is Francis Bacon, was brought under great difficulty from England to Jamestown, Virginia, by Henry Blount who renamed himself Nathaniel Bacon in the New World. Since there was no continous land-bridge, only Newfoundland along the way, it most likely was brought over by sea on the Charlotte on account of the peculiar Meerschaum pipe stored there, and Paul Revere signaled with one lantern in the steeple of the old Boston Church, it's part of old Mason teachings which Patrick Gates invented to have a drift. "Promising beyond expectations too is Jamestown's future: Jamestown bedewed not only with the turbulent waters of the Atlantic, but also with the salty tears of the earliest settlers. Their New World experience disolved in the as yet unsolved mysterious tragedy of the "Lost Colony." Upon arrival in the new world continent Jamestown at first harbored the documentoary treasure. It was buried under the tower of the Jamestown Church, which is still in preservation. As if to indicate that it yielded a treasure once left in its care, the floor of the Church-tower is still perceptibly indented and concave, giving the impression of having been hollowed out beneath the curving stones. "Shortly before the Bacon Rebellion and in connection with the planned removal of the Virginia Capital to Williamsburg, the records were brought to their final resting place in a great Vault beneath the tower center of the first brick church in Bruton Parish. Some historical documents were buried in Bacon Castle in Surrey County, Copies and duplicates of all records were buried elsewhere. "I was looking for a Church which was still standing in 1699, when Williamsburg became the capitol of Virginia. In fact I was looking for a Church built in 1676 in connection with the Bacon Rebellion in Williamsburg", and when the "documentary treasure" had been moved from Jamestown to Bruton Churchyard, about a half century after Francis Bacon's death. "Truly, the forces which conspired toward the composition of Colonial Williamsburg's nativity have began to unfold their potential , which promises to develope into the gravity center of the New Age, its core-point deep in the heart of sacred Virginia ground as "centered beneath the tower center of the first Brick-Church in Bruton Churchyard."! "Entering by way of the main gate to the Church's tower-structure, we immediately discovered the tombstone plate of "Nathaniel Bacon" on the tower wall, which makes reference to him as being "of the House of the illustrious Sir Francis Bacon, Lord Verulam." Aforementioned "David Bray", who rests under "yon old thorne", the pyramidal tombstone at the same churchyard, and "Richard Bland", who drew the Old English map of Williamsburg in 1699, (whose friend Michael from Germany sketched a "brick-patterned" church the same year) had "been righthand man of Nathaniel Bacon during the Rebellion. "A true descendent of Lord Bacon, Nathaniel Bacon, then but a young lad in his twenties was first entrusted with the weighty mission of bringing the documentary treasure and other valubles to America. His name in England was Henry Blount. Upon arrival in the Virginia Colony he adopted the name Nathaniel Bacon. He is historically known as Nathaniel Bacon the Elder. "Nathaniel Bacon the Elder's nephew is Nathaniel Bacon the Younger." He became the historically suppressed and unacknowledged young hero of of the first "Bacon Rebellion in Williamsburg" which occurred in 1676. No doubt the enthusiastic young pioneer who had been educated in Cambridge or Oxford was to an inspired measure initiated into the New Age Undertaking and its relationship to the true founding of American trail-and-error Democracy. For young nathaniel Bacon became instrumental in the transfer of the documentary treasure to its final resting place beneath the tower of the first Brick Church in Bruton Parish, "Middletown," which later was called Williamsburg. Young Nathaniel Bacon died at twenty-nine years of age, in connection with the Bacon Rebellion, and before the first original Brick Church in Bruton Parish was completed and dedicated." Concerning Nathaniel Bacon as "being of the House of the illustrious Sir Francis Bacon, Fern writes: "Of course disregarding blood-ties, all who became intrusted members of the participants in the great New Age labor were in reality of "the House of Sir Francis Bacon," the noble leaders of the valiantly cooperative fraternal "SPEAR-SHAKERS!" The paternal seed of New Age thinking, living and relationships ripened from within the cooperative fraternal Shakespeare group and its labor." Deeper than ever plumet sound I'll drown my book. Crowns thrown from thrones to tombs Detombed arise, to match thy Muse With a monarchis theme, The Tempest
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 24, 2007 10:29:30 GMT -5
God will use a voice, which sometimes he useth, that is: Vox populi--the Speech of the people. FB The re-uniting of science, religion, and philosophy has been for some time, and is well on the way on many fronts, and even hard-core academics give a millimeter now and then. I don't think the time is far off when the Creationists and Evolutionists will see that their theories are not mutually exclusive, the latter needs to allow for spirit/life-force, and the former need to get off their dogmatic thinking which doesn't make sense. "I have held up a light in the obscurity of philosophy, which will be seen centuries after I'm dead." FB Fern: "Profound philosophical and religious works constituting an actual recorded union of science, religion and philosophy compose the greatest treasure incorporated into the inheritance of the New Age. A New Constitution for the United Brotherhood of the earth was built upon enduring principles and anchored at the center of universal law, so the true democracy may be born after its three hundered year prenatal period. Christianity was recorded, reconciled to scientific law and correlated to the Secret Doctrine of the East. The complete draught of the work, an outline of European and American history, a history of Free Masonry, a history of Rosicrucianism, manuscripts of all the published writings were united in a vast wealth destined to mould the culture of the New Age." Delia Bacon: "There was one moment in that history, in which the ancient drama had, in new forms, its old power; when, stamped and blazoned on its surface with the badges of servitude, it had yet leaping within the indomitable heart of its ancient freedom, which Magna Carta had only recognized the freedom to the new ages that were then beginning 'freedom of the chainless mind'. There was one moment in which all the elements of the national genius, were held together in their first vigour, pressed from without into their old Greek conjunction. That moment there was; it is chronicled; we have one word for it; we call it 'Shakespeare'. Has the time come at last, or has it not yet come, in which his message of the new time can be laid open to us?" The first page has been opened with "National Treasure", the second may be "National Treasure 2", and all us new agers hope there will be NT3 and so on until the entire world gets it Fern: "George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Nathaniel Bacon of the Rebellion and many others of America's great leaders were Master-Masons performing their task. "Employing the integrity and idealism of Lincoln, the growth of slavery was removed from the roots of democracy waxing ever stronger. A great span of time was, therefore, required not only for the inception and launching of the work, but to permit the younger race in America to grow from infancy to maturity and readier receptivity. "In scholarly circles a "Blitzkrieg" of opinions versa discovered facts, was launched with all the hits on the side of the Baconians, especially due to the valiant efforts of Delia Bacon, who sacrificed her life and ended with apparent failure; Mr. Ignatius Donnely who discovered the great cryptogram; Mrs. Wells Gallup, the discoverer of the bilateral cypher; William Stone Booth, the discoverer of the anagrammatic method; Sir Edwin Durning Lawrence, who proved the Shakespeare portrait to be a mask. Many others discovered numerical cyphers, clock-dail cyphers etc., in the apparent text of the plays. The fact was established beyond doubt that the text of the plays as it appears is but a cover which conceals the true and intended content; it is the body, harbouring a luminous soul. The very need for such a cover, such a body, represents a nescessity which gave birth to endeavor yielding the greatest literary attainment of all times." Libraries full of books on Bacon/Shakespeare have, and are being writ, and now, of course, movies, to bring it to the the treasure to little people. "Code writing was a required accomplishment of the times, and Bacon published a work on various methods in use at the time. For safety from detection the invention of a new system confined to the group was imperative. T guard against imitation by others in case of possible detection, it was prudent to coordinate several known methods in an unknown manner." Ben, however, detected a clue, the key, by rubbing his own blood on the stem of the Meerschaum pipe. I described the pipe before, but the fluid blood, which runs in the "Gates Family" has memory, occult anatomically speaking, and together with being told the story by his grandfather, is the only one who can decipher the clues. Coriolanus, Act 1, tells of the body and belly, in part Menenius Agrippa 'True it is, my incorporate friends' quoth he, 'That I receive the general food at first Which you do live upon; and fit it is, Because I am the storehouse and the shop Of the whole body. But, if you do remember, I send it through the rivers of your blood Even to the court, the heart, to th' seat o'th' brain, And through the crancks and offices of man, The strongest nerves and small inferior veins From me receive that natural competency Wherby they live. And though that all at once You, my good friends" --this says the belly. Mark me. I had to weave this in because it so irritated me when one of the commentators wrote that Ben rubbed "saliva" on the stem of the Meerschaum pipe, donkey, doesn't know a hawk from a handsaw even when no wind is blowing. Anyway, Fern was thrilled at the "scientific and philosophical revelations - as a consequence of understanding Lord Bacon' coordinated system of codes, one is able to tune into his universal mind. The manner in which the life of True-text is dependent upon, yet invisibly concealed within cover text, truly discloses the secret of organic life, the mystery of man's three-fold constitution. One glimpses Ariadne's thread. Holding on to it, one is guided through the labyrinth of Nature's mysteries. One senses the origins and intricate workings of the life-principle as the motivating principle of Nature, Man and the Universe; consequently one is permitted to see more deeply into the divine mystery of Deity, the correlation of Creator-Creation-Creature. "The "Generation of Number" and the "Generation of Mathematical Figures" discloses the secret of Universal Order and its microcosmic play in the nature of man. It yields a definition of the fourth dimension, its abilities, and its relation to man, which is clear and understandable" -- perceiving "the GRANDEUR and the SIMPLICITY of NATURAL LAW." That's a little bit of Fern for you, " . . . . and the wild old forest echoed with Sabbath hymns and sweet old English nursery songs, and the children of the New World awoke . . . ." Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 29, 2007 8:47:40 GMT -5
One lantern "under the winding staircase of the steeple" of the Old North Church in Boston In my attempt to show "National Treasure" to be Lord Bacon's own, I briefly made note of my visit to Santa Fe, New Mexico, at Easter 07 for a family gathering. I wrote about a treasure Mr. James Ward of Lynchburg, Virginia, "puzzled over" but couldn't solve, i.e., a treasure that was found by Beale and his 30 men, somewhere in northern New Mexico, speculated to be Santal Fe. "At the end of the Santa Fe Trail stands the Loretto Chapel. Inside the Gothic structure is the staircase referred to as miraculous, marvelous and is sometimes called St. Joseph's Staircase. The stairway confounds architects, engineers and master craftsmen. It makes over two complete 360-degree turns, stands 20' tall and has no center support. It rests on solely on its base and against the choir loft. The risers of the 33 steps are all of the same height. Made of an apparently extinct wood species, it was constructed with only square pegs without glue and nails." www.lorettochapel.com/history.htmlAt then end of our family stoll also through Santa Fe we found ourselves in this famous chapel, which I didn't know existed. Since I didn't know the legend of this chapel it wasn't particularly interesting to me, but when the recorded voice of a lady said that the staircase had 33 steps and was built by a Mason, or Masons, can't remember exactly, I was all ears and eyes because instantly the winding staircase of the Old Boston Church in the movie came to mind, the "Free Mason teachings" Ben's father told Ian about, that "there was a winding staircase in King Solomon's Temple, it signified the journey that had to be made to find the Light of Truth." Similarly, there is said to be a spiral staircase under "yon old thorne" the pyramidal tombstone in Bruton Churchyard, Williamsburg, of David Bray, which leads to a Free Mason Library, the national and international treasure of Sir Francis Bacon. The creaky wooden stairs under the Trinity Church only bend once or twice, nevertheless, the movie has an inspiring ending. Made Don cry, but he cries easely, and I'm out of time. Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jun 30, 2007 10:15:32 GMT -5
Apropos the legend of the "miraculous" staircase In the Chapel of Loretto, I read several articles on the net, none of them mention the Masons, probably because it is now Catholic, also a tourist attraction, and for the average visitor the word Mason has a sinister undertone. Only one site states that "the staircase has 33 steps, the age of Jesus Christ." All say that a mysterious carpenter built the "stairway from heaven", and the carpenter is believed to be Joseph himself. While constructing it, the capenter left when the sisters came to pray, resuming his work after they left, and the stairs rose "in a double helix" with no visible, central support. It is, however, stabilized by an iron bracket attached to one of two columns holding up the loft where the sisters desired to pray. It had no railing at the time, and the sisters were reportedly so frightened that they went up and down on their hands and knees. Other people said the stairs seemed to be moving as they climbed them owing to their instability. Some say the staircase "was built very quickly", others that it took quite some time. The carpenter used neither nails nor glue, but only wooden pegs, (Reminds me of a Keltic chapel in Poland) the wood used is spruce, though wood experts have not been able to identify the type, hence it is unknown where it came from, "apparently an extinct species." The sisters reported that they saw the wood soaking in tubs of water. Taking all things literally, there is nothing "miraculous" about the staircase, say the skeptics, it is subject to physics, I would agree. Their rational explanation for the absence of nails is that they wre not readily available ot too expensive. Nothing is said about the glue. Philosophically speaking, and since "it's part of Free Mason teachings", "the winding staircase of the steeple" in the Old North Church in Boston, it being "inspired by the works of Christopher Wren", and Episcopal like Bruton Church; the metaphorical spiral staircase under "yon old thorne" in Bruton Churchyard, to the Free Masons library; and the "miraculous" staircase in Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe, derive from the legend of Solomon's Temple being built "without the hammer of contention or tools of mischief" by Hiram Abiff. Regarding the temple human-body, no nails ot glue, only learning and self-effort but for the love of wisdom. It also has a stairwell of 33 vertabae a long time in buiding, as opposed to a staircse of wood which can be Built "very quickly." Whether in Solomon's Temple the solar system, or Solomon's Temple our body, a lantern burns. One by land, below Two by see, above Kinda lame I know So I'll turn it off Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 1, 2007 11:32:54 GMT -5
Life goes on, and having gathered their wits somewhat after the great disappointment of finding no treasure all they want is to leave the duster room under the Trinity Church. Ben shines the light of his torch along the wall and discovers an arch-niche flanked by four symbols: an eight-peddled flower and the Masonic symbol on the left, one of the two on the right, beside an ankh, he recognizes as the form of the Meerschaum pipe. He traces the outline with his finger to give his mind time to deal with this find and his heart from making a dangerous leap, then asks himself "could it really be that simple?" He takes the pipe out of his pocket and holds and feels it with both hands. In a profound moment many things go through his mind, he ties this moment to the moment he took the pipe out of its casing on the Charlotte and murmurs to himself "the secret lies with Charlotte." Patrick, Abigail, and Riley stand speechless, the four of them, and the audience sense that they are close to a great discovery. Ben fits the pipe into the carved out form, the characters on it now entirely different as they were before, no Knight on a horse, rather, he now appears to be standing with sword raised, fronting the castle tower. Four other human figures are depicted, a female raising her right arm, or, a turbaned old man with a cane, a dog looking at the figure. The dog was on the "original" pipe but is much clearer here, the other figures I can't make out. Into a hole under the pipe Ben inserts the stem and turns the pipe body on which the characters have changed again, counter clock-wise, or "backwards" until it locks/clicks into place, pushes it in, stones break up all around and an invisible door opens. Just like the door on golden hinges under the Sphinx, though noiseless Riley smiles cautiously, Abigail exhales a breath of joyous expectation, Patrick takes the liberty of walking through the door first, Ben grabs his torch from the wall and for a for about 5 seconds attention is drawn to his torch, the only object on the screen. In and by its flames gradually forms a perfect rose and dissolves in the flames again. Elated, they look upon a more recent treasured past. Patrick rubs the dust of a golden coin revealing a pyramid with the all-seeing eye as depicted on the back of the one Dollar bill, Riley admires " big bluish-green man with a strange looking goatee" and gusses it must be "significant", but pays no attention to the Queen adoring the Pharaoh, and delighted Abigail looks at "scrolls from the Library of Alexandria." Perhaps these scrolls are those rumored to have survived the fire. Neither have all writings of the Gnostics been destroyed by "the early architects of Christianity - in their insatiable desire to extend the dominion of blind faith. They ignorantly supposed that the most dangerous writings of this class had perished with the last Gnostic; but someday they may discover their mistake. Other authentic and as important documents will perhaps reäppear in a "most unexpected and almost miraculous manner." Perhaps the unexpected began with "National Treasure", but there are thousand books and events in between the Alexandria of then and the Alexandria of now, Los Angeles/Hollywood. Isn't it marvelous how Madam Blavatzky always comes to my help at the right time? The lady relates a paragraph a monk translated to her, as best as she can recall: "When the Queen of the Sun (Cleopatra) was brought back to the half-ruined city, after the fire had devoured the Glory of the World; and when she saw the mountains of books -- or rolls -- covering the half-consumed steps of the estrada; and when she perceived that the inside was gone and the indestructable covers alone remained, she wept in rage and fury, and cursed the meanness of her fathers who had grudged the cost of the real Pergamos for the inside as well as the outside of the precious rolls." And a bit of romantic tradition, which I especially love: "... yet there are widespread traditions of the existence of certain subterranean, and immense galleries, in the neighborhood of Ishmonia -- the "petrified City," in which are stored numberless manuscripts and rolls. For no amount of money would the Arabs go near it. At night, they say, from the crevices of the desolate ruins, sunk deep in the unwatered sands of the desert, stream the rays from lights carried to and fro in the galleries by no human hands. The Afrites study the literature of the antedeluvian ages, according to their belief, and the Djin learns from the magic rolls the lessons of the following day." In Egypt, the Djin are very much alive, and sometimes the people are afraid of the Afrites, but not when they courteously open the door. It's a magical world if you can belife it Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 2, 2007 8:38:37 GMT -5
The treasured knowledge of our origin?
While Patrick, Abigail, and Riley appreciate various treasured items, Ben notices, and picks up a pinch of some sort of powder on an altar. Why would he think of igniting it with his torch? It's probably the dust of the ages light or consciousness burns away, because flames leap up and run along a chanel flanked by a stone banister shedding light on an ornate tree toward the past.
Behold the Human Child in fetal position looking west, humanity in its infancy, the babe on the lotus, guarded by two very ancient lion-headed Sphinxes, reminding me for some reason of the Colossi of Memnon guarding the tombs in the Valley of the Kings and Queens, where is this sublime "Book of Caverns" painting, and in another tomb the "Book of coming forth by Day" written on the walls.
The flames pass by the child and form/illuminate a square revealing a vessel or cauldron on two pedestals, which to my thinking symbolize the two former humanities, wholly different from the human child and current human form. These would be the "First" and "Second World" of the Hopi "on the journey to the Upper World", their "Third World" when the people were told that they are now "true humans", i.e., the human child in the movie. The people of the "Third World" of the Hopi correspond to the Atlantians, the first true human forms.
The vessel or cauldron, then, on these two pedestals or former worlds would be the chalice or cosmic womb, or Golden Egg, or the vimana/golden city flying in space, of the Hindus; the House of Gold or golden enclosure of the Egyptians. Fern also shows it gemotrically forming in space as the "cosmic egg", in which humanty nascent was in the process of evolution, or on the journey to the Upper World, that of the human child/form. In the movie, to the left of the vessel, a figure in reverend countenance holds a light to his heart with both hands.
This room of the "treasured past" with objects in it as far as the eye can see, reminds me also of the Temple of Amorak, a vast "repository of ancient knowledge" in the castle Mt. Seleya on Vulcan, of "Startreck."
Pretty informed movie makers.
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 4, 2007 12:26:45 GMT -5
Fireworks to Francis BaconMeteor showers from Francis BaconBen, Abigail, Patrick, and Riley are in historical heaven as they gaze upon the reasure before them. More than that, Riley is moved to tears because he sees stairs instead of stars, he is not going to die after all. A figure, I'll call him the Greek, points to the way out of the past up to the Trinity Church. Ben brakes down the door provided in case of cave-ins and asks a startled monk examining a skeletal hand, if he had a cell phone he could borrow. The monk is dumbfounded, maybe he, or the docile society of monks never saw the clearly defined door to the treasure temple below, or maybe it can just be opened from the inside out as Masonic symbolism. In connection with the Beale cipher, Joe Nickell, in his book "Mysterious Realms", aptly combines both, so I repeat his words: "Beale and his treasure are illusory-merely part of an allegory meant to evoke the anticipated Masonoc 'discovery of the secret vault and the inestimable treasure, with the long lost word'... The contrast between the futile quest for gold and that for more spiritual wealth are didactically expressed in allegory." FBI agent Sadusky lol, himself wearing a Masonic ring, awaits Ben and remarks "I take it you found the treasure", yes, Ben tells him "it's five stories beneath your shoes." Apparently Sadusky is informed of the Templar and Mason legend because he repeats the words of the grandfather at the beginning of the movie, as if Ben or we never heard it, and to put the ending and the beginning in a bubble: "You know, the Templar and Masons believed the treasure was too great for one man to have, not even a King, that's why they went through such great lenghts to keep it hidden - give it to the people" Ben agrees that the "thousand years of world history down there - it belongs to the world and everybody in it." and for them from Fern. For all they went through to find the treasure, Ben bargains with agent Sadusky: he wants Abigail, who by now is crazily in love with him, "get off completely clean", the credit of the find to go to the entire Gates Family, which words deeply move his father, Riley's invaluable assistance in the quest to be acknowledged (especially the posting of the "Junior Red Cross Poster" by Humphrey), and Ben himself can't even begin to tell Sadusky how much he doesn't want to go to prison. Ian of the evil empire will go to prison. All's well that ends well. Riley is on the phone with the "Chief", probably Zahi, because he relates to Ben and Abigail that they are wanted "in Cairo next week", and that the Supreme Council of Antiquities is "sending a private jet." Living the high and privileged life now, Riley takes of in his well-deserved Ferrari, and Ben and Abigail will live happily ever after their return from the Dark Land, from which the light still shines all over the world. The film ends by a large ankh, the Templar or Maltese Cross in both arms, the Trinity Symbol imposed on it, the Masonic emblem, and a Native American symbol, moving across the screen, the music the same as in the beginning. Very thoughtful. The "treasure that defines history for all mankind", the "Godfather's Gift" to humanity at large, in due time, is all Francis Bacon did, taught, and recorded for us, a labor of unimaginable love for all live and living, a mind accessible one baby step in a life-time. It's that simple. No, Time, thou shalt not boast that I do change: Thy pyramids built up with newer might To me are nothing novel, nothing strange; They are but dressings of a former sight. Our dates are brief, and therefore we admire What thou dost foist upon us that is old, And rather make them born to our desire Than think that we before have heard them told. Thy register and thee I both defy, Not wondering at the present not the past; For thy records and what we see doth lie, Made more or less by thy continual haste. Sonnet 123
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 5, 2007 9:07:17 GMT -5
According to Ben, one step before "obsessed" is "passionate." It's very hard for me to leave Bacon. Whether to the Queen or us, Hamlet says: You go not, till I set up a glass Where you may see the inmost part of you. As far as history is concerned, Delia Bacon understood that Hamlet had "the thoughts of ages in his foregone conclusions." Working with numbers and letters in a mechanical code system, Fern states that "the name Hamlet always yields Francis Bacon." Francis, his brother Robert (Essex), and his foster brother Anthony Bacon developed and communicated code-wise. The "dead letter" of the word and reading beneath the lines "Various codes an cyphers were employed to bury the true and intended content beneath the apparent cover-text, for which a legens was chosen from the histories or sagas of all nations, for a particular parallelism in occurences and action. "The "new invention" peculiar to the work consists in the rearrangement of the letters and words of the apparent text (face value) in accord-dance (my seperation) with the natural abilities of text-constituents. This was accomplished in the manner of the generation of number 1:2:3:4:5:6; Letter: Word: Sentence: Cover-text: question mark -- True-text. "In this motion from Letter to Alphabet to word to Sentence to Cover-text to True-text, each one of the text-constituents is liberated from the crypt of crystallized form, and becomes absorbed by the next form, thereby describing the path of various codes. The abilities of one are absorbed by the next, are contained in the next one as "mechanical habit." In this manner the least organized text-constituents, the letters of a body of written text, are most fluidic and may be put to most diverse use in the construction of hidden text. They have, however, the least degree of stability also, whereas the more organized forms, for instance, sentences, carry a greater degree of mechanical order. "According to their degree of organization the text-constituents may carry independent information, "the second burthen of a former child" (Sonnet) and at the same time function in regard to the True Text. So may, for instance, a word in its apparent organization serve as a key-word and at the same time yield its letters to the formation of new words in anagrams. "The point I am trying to elucidate is, that even though extensive historical information has been derived through the discovery of various codes by Scholars, the discovered facts are but the "independent information" carried by mechanicals, which are used to police the true text, and confine it to exact and invariable wording." Now I ask you, how eloquently does this describe the "literalism" of ariston? "Therefore, information obtained by by means of these discovered cyphers has been very scanty in proportion to the laborious methods of extraction. The system heretofore discovered was devised--to word it into a quotation by Bacon--"as a Stage with steps, by which these works of darkness are brought to light." The independent information carried by these methods was intended to lead to the discovery of cyphers in their proper order, each previous discovery containing information for the next step to be taken." This, of course, works with the dead letter too, only, it leads deeper into the Armana tar pits.) "The fact, which has not heretofore been recognized is, that to extract the True-Text ONE COORDINATED SYSTEM OF CODES, the proper relation of single mechanical methods to the completely rewritten text must be known. Only then can the complete and vast extent of Lord Bacon's work be understood, be found registered in black and white in the nigh innumerable works pertaining to the great scheme. The manner in which the inner life, the soul of the writings is contained within the apparent body,--rather it is the motivating principle, the life-principle of the body,--indeed discovers to us the secret of organic life and its manner of animating form." Conventionally, the movement from mechanical dead letter to the soulful True-text is called "layers, levels, planes etc., and there are 7 in everything, easy to understand by our human body which hides the soul. Fern's stuff and understanding, hard to understand, of Lord Bacon is marvelous, after all, it is she, the figure at the helm of the Charlotte, who knowingly and silently watched Ben and Co. at the North Pole, even as she did almost all her life, watch and wait, and guided them to Washington DC, so to speak. Better late than never Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 6, 2007 8:48:17 GMT -5
Coincidently with my version of "National Treasure" came to my PO Box the movie "The Scarlet Pimpernel". I watched it many years ago and like it, liked it even more this time.
The movie shows but a fraction of what can be put together in one's mind about the personages being instrumental in the French Revolution. Brutal times these were. What caught my attention this time around were the red white and blue streamers, a beautiful red white and blue bow on Lady Blakeney's dress, meant not to be missed, and the red white and blue rosette brooches on the lapels of jackets of men.
Reviewers of the movie say that it falls sorely short of the book written by Baroness Orczy. Were I to read it, I'm sure I could write an unbelievable story about it. Disk 2 is waiting in my mailbox.
Charlotte
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Post by Charlotte on Dec 20, 2007 10:08:42 GMT -5
National Treasure - Book of Secrets is being released to morrow I just skimmed over a review: it begins with Egytian "stuff"; in a white flash of light the Disney logo is shown; President Lincoln's secret book? History will be rewritten; the book contains the nations history; JFK comes up, Fern told me about the connection between Lincoln and JFK and brother RK; England and the Queen are involved, but I don't know yet which one; France and the Eiffel Tower, he he Don After "National Treasure" it no longer is a secret that it all began when "Europe (was) with child and shall bring forth a strong child who is greatly in need of a Godfathers gift." Fama and Confessio The strong child is America whose Godfather is Francis Bacon and his gift is the regeneration of the whole World. Twas of that silent meeting his high vision came, rapturous as any vision ever to poet given, since in that sacrament he rebaptized his soul and lived hereafter in love, by the merit of faith toiling to endow the world. And on those feathered wings his mighty poem mounted panting, and lieth now with all its earthly tangle by the throne of God.
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Post by Charlotte on Dec 21, 2007 10:10:34 GMT -5
Found a better review of National Treasure: Book of Secrets to comment on.
In "National Treasure", there was an invisible map on the back of the "Declaration of Independence".
In NT 2, there is a "book hidden" in the "Book of Secrets".
Fern would say: this is the "true" text beneath the "cover" text, and the "massive, global conspiracy" Ben is to discover in the book, she would insist is Francis Bacon's conspiracy to reform the entire world. 'Tis afoot.
Nicolas Cage, writes Justin Chang, Variety.com, goes "on another quest to strike it rich, get youg audiences excited about history and solve puzzles that are generally less stimulating than yesterday's Sudoku."
Critics compare both movies to "Indiana Jones" and "The Da Vinci Code", suggesting that the National Treasure movies are for lovers of adventure movies, or for children. All these can be "rolled into one", according to Mr. Chang, who adds: "Sorry, but having a character tearfully marvel at how the discovery of an ancient city of gold will revolutionize the study of pre-Columbian artifacts doesn't qualify as deep engagement with history."
Professor Emily, Ben's mom, is "conviniently well-versed in Native American languages." Interesting to see how the Natives are portrayed and what they have to say.
Ben and company go globe-trotting, "tearing up cities in high-speed car chases, ransacking national landmarks for hints and exploring subterranean caverns", which Paul and I are doing lately also.
Very insightful are Mr. Chang's words: "The characters here don't just solve ciphers; they are cyphers", less so however his remark that "their dialogue and imotional interactions (are) no less mechanical than all the secret switches and hidden compartments (left for them to discover by long-deceased puzzlemeisters who clearly had too much time on their hands)."
Reminds of those Egyptians who composed the Kings list because they too "had too much time on their hands."
"The pic's impressive world tour includes stops in Paris, London and Washington, DC., en route to a climax at Mt. Rushmore that won't give "North by Northwest" a run for its money." It isn't meant too, it's brilliant, it's the journey of the treasure: Young Francis Bacon conceived his plan to reform the world in Paris, it matured in London, and was brought by way of the Meerschaum pipe crossing the Atlantic, to open the treasure room beneath the Trinity Church in "New York" City.
Naturally, I'm all excited, but have to wait for the dvd to see the "deep engagement with history". These movies can happen for 2 reasons, methinks:
1, Some people in Hollywood are informed about the "great conspiracy",
2, the intelligent universe works that way.
Charlotte
PS Sorry, big typo for me: Independence
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Post by ariston on Dec 21, 2007 13:21:48 GMT -5
Dear Charlotte,
After reading post 47, I referred back to my map of WDC and interestingly enough a feature appears which I like to phrase; The Assasination trail;
From The RFK stadium, directly East of The Capitol, about 30 streets, a line can be plotted from these two locations, a line that runs through LINCOLN park. Over The Capitol the imaginary line crosses the Monument and ends up over the LINCOLN memorial. From this we cross the Arlington Mem. Bridge which lines up directly with, yup you guessed it, the Grave site of JFK. The said line follows one vector until the Lincoln Mem, which lines up with JFK.
Also...A birds eye view of the RFK stadium has an interesting design feature, the stadium, circular in shape is nestled amongst thoroughfares wherein on one side the street has an aspect of a birds beak, and by shading in the different elements the effect actually looks like a hooded Falcons Head, Horus the Falcon comes to mind, you have to see it to appreciate it.
Thats my 2 cents worth, more change soon.
Kind Regards Latona
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Post by Charlotte on Dec 22, 2007 8:53:00 GMT -5
Hallo ariston,
Yes, I would have to see it to appreciate it. Perhaps you will be kind enough to show it?
Thank you, and any change will be treasured.
Sincerely Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Dec 23, 2007 16:06:41 GMT -5
Dear Charlotte,
Consistency is the key. May I direct your attention to the Lodge of the Ancient and Accepted scottish rite of the 33rd degree. The building lays on 16th and New Hampshire, due north of the Whitehouse by abut 13 blocks, 16th st. is the thoroughfare that leads directly to the seat of power. Consistent themes are abound, The roof of said Lodge is a Truncated Pyramid(fire within), obviously awaiting the arrival of the Capstone, no doubt. An elevation at the base reveals the two pillars of JACHIN and BOAZ, the same pillars that are mentioned in the book of kings, fashioned by Hiram out of Bronze and placed at the flanks of the entrance to the Temple of Solomon. So the pillars themselves represent the gateway to the Temple and as we know, The Temple was built for one reason and one reason alone, to hold The Ark.
The DBIR(heb)Dalet,Beth,Yod,Reysh, was the holy of holies and the resting place of the Ark. By Gematria, DBIR follows 4.2.10.200=216=72*3(144=72*2)
ON THE MAP, continue up 16th st. to the Whitehouse. The environs of the building lays within a street structure that has a clear entableture design factor, as with the 'head of Horus', a tracing of the layout around the Whitehouse is tabletted, not like a pill, but like one of the tablets that The Lawgiver(Moses) holds aloft on his descent from Sinai. The Holy Royal ARCH.(And ask why the MacDonalds Emblem is like that, two tablets. Go into many Churches in the city of London and behind the altar is a representation of the Two Tablets, with the Commandments on them, above them is the TETRAGRAMMATON, Yod,He,Vaw,He. With this name, by entering the SHIN, we get JOSHUA, (Jesus in greek). YHWH.
Consistent Themes, due west of the Whitehouse, crossing the Potomac, Teddy Roosevelt Island and The Little River, we come across an area that is called Rosslyn. An imaginary line has a light deviation from The Metro station of the same name and the location of the Whitehouse on the same vector. Therefore, a virtual Right Triangle can be formed on the map that links, at points, the site of the Lodge, The Whitehouse and Rosslyn Metro station/district.
Knight and Lomas show that the site of Rosslyn is actually a representation of The Temple of Solomon. Temple=Ark. Andrew Sinclair Conludes that, after conducting a cat scan, a subterrainean chamber exists in some capacity, to get to it, you would need to dismantle Rosslyn. Phillip Gardiner tells us that the former Templar preceptory of Balantrooch, next door, fas recently been bought up by American Investors. Was it not the Scots rite that first disseminated an ancestory from Templarism, ala The Chevalier Ramsays' oration and Von Hund's Unknown Superiors. After the Hanoverian Usurption and Jacobite exile to France, America seems to have become a haven for the Jacobites and sympathisers. Testament to this is that many field officers from the Colonial Militia were veterans of Culloden. George Washingtons own field medic certainly was. Staunch anti- Hanoverians.
Inside Rosslyn stand the two pillars, The Masters and The apprentice. The Apprentice pillar outshines the Masters in detail and beauty. The basis then of the story of the Masters murder of the Apprentice through envy, which mirrors the Masonic tale behind the Killing of Hiram Abiff, The Architect of the Temple, by the three apprentices, for not revealing he secret of the Cornerstone(or Capstone, even).
Grand Lodge in Convent Garden, London has a Pyramidal floorplan. Looking down on the building shows this clearly. The Main Entrance occupies the position of the Capstone. The main entrance doors are emblazoned by eight Seals of Solomon, The Huge Bronze doors are flanked by the Two Pillars. Gateway to the Temple and the Sanctum Sanctorum, the DBIR. Midway from above the main entrance down from the main tower, lightly etched into the white sandstone is the TETRAGRAMMATON, YHWH, in Hebrew. The consistencies are all too clear, Pillars within Pyramids-pillars to the Dbir-what is the power source that produces the fire within and isn't the sarcophagus within the Kings Chamber roughly the same size as the Ark. The Bible tells us that the Ark had terrible power, Moses' face shone thereafter, the striking down of Aarons sons, etc. Radioactive power.
The Consistencies remain and point to one conclusion, The original House of Solomon, Bacon's House shone in the Black Land.
Kind Regards Latona
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Post by Charlotte on Dec 24, 2007 8:48:57 GMT -5
Hallo again, Latona,
A headful 'tis, to follow, and your conclusion "The original House of Solomon, Bacon's House shone in the Black Land" I love, his light shines in my heart and mind, and the more I see his "brilliant mind and soul", the RC have it be, the brighter it shines. I don't know the meaning of DBIR, but understand the fire in the Sanctum Sanctorum, in which one finds oneself alone, to be soulfire.
I will have to look at your's and one or two of Don's maps again of "the Washington District of Columbia" and draw lines according to the descriptions.
National Treasure: Book of Secrets, "won the weekends box-office", was a news flash during yesterday's "60 Minutes." What can I say? "We the People", world-wide, are flocking to a treasure we cannot yet put our finger on.
Happy Charlotte
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Post by ariston on Jan 17, 2008 19:00:05 GMT -5
Dear Char-lotte, Here is the RFK stadium and environs as the Falconheaded Horus. E PLURIBUS UNUM - One from the many. Do you think 'BEN GATES' would be intrigued Your name not only incorporates the Root from Charlemagne, The first Frankish Holy Roman Emperor, but also that of the first Saxonian (1st empire)Germanic emperor Otto the Great. Char-l-otte, Great definately the right word. It is the 17th today, let's say a quick Happy Birthday to Benjamin Franklin. Love and Light Latona
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Post by Charlotte on Jan 18, 2008 10:15:49 GMT -5
Greetings Latona, Thank you for this Horus, I thought I have to look for him myself. I wonder what "layed out" minds in Washington are at work. I have a client whose wife is closely connected with the "Treasury", who told me how "awesome" the city is, and if I ever plan a visit to let him know - he will give me some names and addresses. Perhaps in return for me bringing beads from Egypt, which he had made into a necklace for his wife, gold orbs seperating the beads, and gold filling up the part of paws missing on a cat, the pendant. How is that for connections over time and Horus circling the skies? Would 'Ben Gates' be intrigued? I have thought of contacting Nicholas Cage to asked him his personal thoughts about the role he is playing, and "talk things over" with him. I wonder. Indeed Happy Birthday to the Great Ben Franklin You wrote that the Gentleman was "initiated into the 9 sisters lodge" while Ambassador to France, and me touching on said revolution via the Scarlet Pimpernel, in this two-part movie, see red, white, and blue streamers, bows, rosettes, and brooches on attire here, there, and everywhere. As Paul noted, novels are a medium to record historical events, then embellished with hints, and fill-ins to make a story, because so much belongs. I feel downright priviledged that my name is connected with such nobility, Otto the Great was involved in the mysteries. My family in Germany call me Lotte, my wise father was named "Batiste", I have a "Prälat uncle, working in Vienna to eradicate world hunger, and, if you please, my grandmothers maiden name is "Toma." I'm in there somewhere. Light and Love Charlotte
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