Satan's Song

[Don Barone]

Hi all.

The website is now up and running and the book must be due for release any day now.

Satan's Song: The CIA's Hunt for Jesus

Until The Light becomes The Fire
Don Barone

[BERNHARD]

Dear DON , JULIA , DAZ, and Others here ( Charlotte may be still on her travel in Germany ) : an interesting new site ! i visited it just some minutes ago, having also a look at the gallery , looking at the Nuremberg-photos ! ha: while i am typing this in, i am only 300 me far away grom this famous big "justice-palace" ! what i miss in relation with the book's context, regarding the SS gallery: some photos of OTTO RAHN, the SS-officer, the man who searched for the Gral and other mysteries. You may find this at:
www.dergral.de/historie/rahn.htm
btw.: it is not certain that O. Rahn visited Rennes-le-Chateau - but on such a "discrete" hidden visit he may not offered his true name, his rank as an SS-officer ( directly ordered by SS-Himmler ), and the intention of his visit. could be that he introduced himself as a normal tourist, walking around on the search for hidden treasures ! keep in mind, that at these times the R-L.C riddle was by far not so public or discussed. more public discussion it started in the late sixties of last century ! huuh, that sounds ! HEY DON, we both are innocent childrens of the LAST century ! ;D -- ok, that's all for today ! have a nice wekend !! -- Best regards: Bernie

[julia]

It seems that this time around the website is more complete and with more images.

It would be nice if Mark decided to rejoin the forum..

Julia

[Don Barone]

Hi Julia ...

Firstly I have invited Mark to join us in an email and secondly a (ex)friend of Daz deleted his account and his posts so hopefully he will rejoin us shortly.

Until The Light becomes The Fire
Don Barone

[Mark Harlem]

Dear Don, Julia et al,

Just a qucik note to thank Don for the invitation to join this forum, and to give a brief reaction on the topic of Satan's song.
Although the book is published in the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe, there are some issues regarding any USA publication. Mostly these issues are regarding legal matters. Since the CIA is part of the topic involved, there is discussion about what (and corroborated with which classified documents) can be published and what not.
At this point the English translation of the manuscript is in the hands of my attornies in Los Angeles. The website is for them, and others, for evaluation purposes. I really have no idea where things will go from there.
Since there is no point in discussing the book as long as it is not on the market, I really - really - want to leave it at this.

Kindest
Mark

[julia]

Lovely to see you here, Mark!

Where else is the book being published (besides the Netherlands and US)? And can I expect a signed copy?

Julia

[Mark Harlem]

Dear Julia,

I am not sure, but I believe it is - or will be - Belgium, Germany, France ... and who knows. You can have your copied signed, of course, perhaps if we meet one day (?).

Kindest
Mark

[Mark Harlem]

PS,
I have to get back to work again, and can therefor not be around much. Rest assured, I will drop by.

Mark

[Charlotte]

Thank you for coming back to us, Mark Harlem. I am looking forward to reading your book, or any comments on various subjects you make so nicely


Don,

Again I'm reading that posts are deleted, who are these people? It is very upsetting for someone to take such brazen liberty and violate this place. Can you do something about it?

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi all here is a post I made at a Dutch board where I am a member. Read it and enjoy ...

Hi all ...

I was just hunting to see if I could find an update on Karl Hammer's book: Satan's Song and it led back to this forum so I thought I would re-read some of the threads on the book and I came across this ... I think it jumped out at me because I had just written an email to the institution inquiring about possibily contacting Karl. Here is the quote apparently from the book ...

After the war he met an Austrian girl, named Elfrieda. He married her and they to Paris. They lived there, until his death, a few years before Karl published Tom's story.

So I think that not de Cherisey was Tom R.

And darned if Karl's foundation isn't called The Freida Foundation ...

Now isn't that interesting ... so maybe, just maybe ... Karl was Tom or someone close to Tom ... like a brother maybe ? Or maybe even closer to the mark a BROTHER-IN-LAW ?

Regardless there is an author about who has written 3 out of what was going to be 4 books on this "mystery" His name is Mike Hockney and he knew of Karl, his book and his beliefs. These books are said to contain hidden clues about what is going to transpire in the near future and I find it just a bit more than co-incidence that Karl told me that "it would soon all come out" back in 2006. Here are two of the three books in question. I woud suggest reading them both.

1) The Millionaires' Death Club

2) The Armageddon Conspiracy An amazing story which I am about 1/2 way through.

Cheers and if I hear from Karl I will let you guys (and gals) know.

Best wishes
Don Barone
aka Ahatmose

PS: I guess deep down inside I think (or hope) that Karl MAY BE Mike Hockney ... Call it a wild hunch.

Mike Hockney's Books <<<<<<<

Cheers
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Hokey, Don, I'll wait and see what you come up with, and the Tree of knowledge of good and evil is man himself: "and I saw a tree walking . . . said the mystic.

Remember that incredible "DE BOOM DES LEVENS" from the first swirling to the complete man?

Charlotte

[Aurora]

666 = Satan’s Song? In September 2006, Dutch author Karl Hammer-Kaatee published “Satans Lied: De Jacht ... “Stiching Frieda”, named after his late mother Frieda Birchbauer. ...
www.perillos.com/satanssong_1.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

[Don Barone]

Hi Aurora interesting article but I have written to the author challenging his statement that certain inside information given to certain people was published without Karl's consent. This as far as I know is completely false and I have asked him for proof of his statement expecially since he never did go back to this issue later as he had promised.

Here is the email I have sent.

Hi ...

My name is Don Barone and I was one of those who was fairly close to Mark Harlem (Karl Hammer) and exchanged emails with him all during his posting at Graham Hancock's forum. In fact I was probably the first and was actually warned away from him by mysterious posters at Graham's because of his close ties with Dutch royalty and have to admit to calling into question your statement: " in the run-up to the publication of the book, Hammer appeared on some English internet forums, specifically Graham Hancock’s, using the pseudonym “Mark Harlem” (an anagram of Karl Hammer), writing about some of the subjects that are relevant to his book. During that period, he became somewhat close to some of the people on that forum, providing them with some “privileged” information, which they however decided to publish, apparently without his permission – and contrary to what had been agreed. We will return to some of this material later on. " Please be aware that there were only a handful that he gave information to and to the best of my knowledge from posting on Graham's site and many others that NOBODY breached the confidentiality agreement we had with Karl. So in light of this I challenge you to show proof that any of us posted or published information he did not first agree to.

Yours Truly
Don Barone


Best
Don Barone

[Aurora]

I haven't read the article - my post was only meant to mention the fact that the Frieda Foundation was called after Karl's mother.... no more no less
when to my surprise the text I had copied and pasted transformed into a link which worked.
In fact I search for validation of the net from what I had known well before this article was written........ now I am not drawing any conclusion I leave that up to you.

[Aurora]

Anyway I am sick and tired that each time I try to help it leads to controversy.
I am leaving both boards I am posting on the GHF I had meant to leave years ago but each time somebody including Luke Hancock tried to preempt me from leaving and I am leaving this one because I have no interest in conspiracies theories that you enjoy Don.
Wishing you all the best and my special greetings to Charlotte and Ariston.
Like Karl I am taking a sabbatical and have no plan to return.
You can close my account.
Thanks.

[Charlotte]

Hi Don and Aurora,

Thanks so much for the link, Aurora, it is much appreciated.

And here are some of the paintings, which you brought to our attention, Don, and overlayed with geometry, as so many others with information, years ago, before anyone else paid much attention to them.

I always loved the telling paintings of van Eyck. The article is interesting as it mentiones "Jesus, but not as we know him", "the key - 'Agla' - is actually hidden in one of the tiles of a floor", and I see pinecone's on the wall.

"Hammer adds further speculation on this episode, by claiming Van Eyck was surrounded by cartographers and that this mission was vital in the codification of the whereabouts of the Arma Christi into the painting - which hence did indeed become a treasure map... or treasure painting."

Treasure maps are most intriguing to so many, and it is as though they all lead eventually to the Templar Treasure Ben Gates is after. For once I am glad for "literalism" so the Nazi's didn't find the "Arma Christ".

Currently, during news conferences concerning the conflict between Russia and Georgia, the Templar Cross can be seen clearly on the flag of Georgia, near "Armenia." The flag actually has five crosses and dates back to the 14th century.

www.worlatlas.com/webimage/flags/countries/europe/georgia.htm

In the greater scheme of things, I find these "synchronicities" interesting.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Go in peace then Aurora but that is not the path to the answers.

Your account will remain open as long as this board does.

In Love and The Light
Don Barone

[Aurora]

Thanks Don. As for answers I wasn't looking for answers. Only self transformation can give you the answers. Plenty of catch up to do before next winter and won't be a lot on the computer. Avoid to do any planning as each time I do the unexpected enters the picture.
If you want to entice me to come back next winter change your background for a lighter one.
Navy Blue has been particularly recommended to be easier on the eyes and I have only one eye working and still need to keep painting that's why I have to avoid tiring colors (black and white) the navy blue and yellow-gold letters are much easier from experience and according to my research on the net among recommendations for webmasters.
In the meantime my best wishes to all here.
Claude,

[Charlotte]

Hi Aurora,

Your paintings being colorful, I'm sorry you have problems with this board of black and white. It is actually my fault, having asked Don to keep our simple original design, and the logo Michelle brought here. Best wishes to you also and maybe we'll see ou again someday.

Dear Don and All,

I can now somewhat see a connection between the time we talked about the "Allegory of the Coronation of Celestine V", and the paintings of Van Eyck, and "Satan's Song", of which I read the 6 Parts.

Firstly, reading a number of posts by Mark Harlem, his kind and almost "fatherly", yet guarded replies to posters, I imagined the Gentleman as an older monk figure poring over documents in some such secluded place. What a surprise, then, to see his picture of a handsome young man, though his eyes, if I may say with due respect, and expression of face are telling of a man who knows a thing profound, the necklace given to him by Tom R. resembling a dove.

Tomorrow, I would like to say a few words of what I found interesting.

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte

I will wait with baited breath for what you have to say. And yes as they say, the plot thickens.

And read some of these threads as well ... www.terugnaardebron.com/forum/index.php?s=16547407ba9b70a88c5b658cf46173df&showforum=269

Cheers
Don Barone

[Aurora]

Hello Charlotte and Don,

Synchronicity is what bring me back to this thread Don.
As usual I was looking for something else for my own research my husband had brought to my attention in a book he read namely the Dark Ages by Isaac Asimov and I was trying to find what he had shown me (since it is borrowed books from the library I didn't get the same sample than him) and on p 118 (for the record we are the 18 today) I read that Charles Martel was called Karl the Hammer by the english....... then finally it registered
either Karl Hammer was another "nom de plume" or Karl is the reincarnation of Charles Martel and the proof is in the name...... now that got my interest lol and I am curious of what bolth you have to say. You see I trust synchronicity and it might just be a clue which can lead to cross over with my own research so I might lurk but post only if your posts generate other synchronicity....... this way there is no controversy with links of other opinions etc....
If you have already made the link with Charles Martel just disregard my post.

Charlotte I too had noticed the Cross Pattee in the Georgian flag ;-)

[Charlotte]

Exhale Don, I'm not all that interested in the "plot", that is your job

Points of interest to me are:

"The quest (for the "Arma Christ") eventually led him to Rennes-le-Chateau and Notre Dame de Marceille - where the book ends, rather abruptly, without any information what happened to the relics Tom R. was shown them around Christmas 1947 by an informal group of "keepers" referred to as the Ebionites." So the Ebionites are of impotance.

"The Naziz didn't find the "Just Judges" panel, but "Tom R. learned that the interest of the Germans went beyond the painting's artistic values, and was linked with the infamous occult ideology, though in this case, certain obscure aspects of Christianity."

Occult simply means that which is hidden, is not an 'ideology', and made 'infamous' because the devil is behind it in a literal meaning.

It is no secret that if the "Arma Christi - fall into the wrong hands, these would be used not as evidence of the historical nature of Christ, but specifically as a sign of power - very much like the popular stories of how those who possessed the Spear of Destiny were in control of the destiny of the world."

For those reasons also, Thomas Gates burned the pages of the Templar booklet, as I call it.

In the context in which Mr. Coppens brings in "The Da Vinci Code", presumable the book, and the "mythology" of the "Priory of Sion", doesn't mean anything because of the masking, misinformation and disinformation given by those who hold the Spear of Destiny, and conjecture, confusion and interpretations by those who read it.

Not that it matters, but I do like the book cover of "Revelation" by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince: the ankh, the djed pillar, the weird staff, and a rider on a horse with the customary sword.

Until tomorrow

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

By ahatmose

[Charlotte]

Thank you, Don, I can see the book cover much better now, the scale on top of the djed pillar connected to the "weird" staff, but haven't read the book so can't judge it by the cover.

Karl Hammer "was unwilling to provide further details" on which panel was more important, John the Baptist or Just Judges. "The conclusion that Hammer draws in the book is that Van Eyck was one of the initiates who knew the true whereabouts of the Arma Christi." Van Eyck is "described" as "an alchemist" by several people and "one group of modern Freemasons." Though I beware of modern Freemasons, probably the word "modern", the paintings themselves would confirm that only an alchemist can draw in alchemical fashion.

It is not known exactly why in 1428, "Van Eyck traveled to Portugal to paint King John I's daughter Isabella", but "Hammer adds further speculation on the episode, by claiming Van Eyck was surrounded by cartographers and that this mission was vital in the codification of the whereabouts of the Arma Christi into the painting - which hence indeed become a treasure map - or treasure painting."

Remembering this was Renaissance time in Europe, and everybody who was anybody communicated with each other, and that Ficino had translated the works of Plato directly from the Greek, and the Corpus Hermeticum, didn't Columbus sail for America in 1492? It isn't known exactly who was Christopher Columbus, the Christ-bearer and Colonizer, who said that neither mathematics nor maps were any use to him. Maybe he referred to the cartographers maping out his journey. It's a world-wide and wonderful conspiracy Don, and you have much work to do , Riley knows all about it, and I think he wrote it in his book "Templar Mystery."

Mr. Hammer says that "all the "Weapons of Christ" can be found in this painting and is, to him, an indication that the painting of Van Eyck are relevant to the quest." A "quest", Hammer says, and I don't think he means a quest to find the paintings, but speaks as the wise old monk I imagined him to be.

See ya tomorrow

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

The title of the book "Satan's Song" is intriguing, inasmuch of how old it is.

One might ask what it has to do with "National Treasure" and "Book of Secrets"? Both treat of the Templar mystery and their treasure. "It's never about the money, it's about the Treasure", says the irritated Patrick Gates.

It's not know why Van Eyck went to Portugal. "What is known, is that in 1430, when Van Eyck was working on his masterpiece, his patron Philip the Good established the Order of the Golden Fleece, a chivalric order based on the English Order of the Garter. The order was created to celebrate Philip's marriage to the Portuguese princess Isabel of Aviz. Why he settled on the image of the Golden Fleece has never been fully explained. Let us add that Philip the Good himself was interested in alchemy and it is known that in his palace in Brussels, he had asked for the installation of an "alchemical room".

With all this alchemical involvment, and the Golden Fleece Order "based" on the English Order of the Garter, why the question why Van Eyck, intimated by Hammer to be an initiate, settled on the image of the Golden Fleece.

Mr. Coppens also states that there "is a ducument from 1435, in which the Duke scolded his treasurers for not paying Van Eyck his salery, claiming that Van Eyck would leave and that he would nowhere be able to find his equal in his "art and science". The use of the word "science" may refer to Van Eyck's revolutionary painting techniques, but it would suggest knowledge outside the confines of painting.

"Though no-one doubts that Van Eyck performed certain missions other than painting portraits for the Duke, the exact nature of these missions is unknown."

The Duke and Van Eyck were "almost - like "Brother", which would indicate that Van Eyck's mission was part of a great European conspiracy, planing.

For Hammer, "the presence of the lamb which is bleeding and whose blood is captured in chalices" is not a reference to the Holy Grail, but "relevant to the quest."

"Though the list of "esoteric coincidences " is growing longer, the key is actually hidden in one of the tiles of the floor, in which almost invisible and definately not meant to be obvious to the eye, the word "ALGA" was written. ALGA was a protective magical formula, a Kabbalistic acronym of the biblical phrase "Ateh Gibor Le-olam Adonai", "The Lord is mighty forever". And though it may not appear to be much, with the presence of a magical formula, suddenly, it is obvious - proven - that this painting is indeed a magical talisman, in the same way as Botticelli's paintings that would inspire some to label him a grandmaster of the mythical Priory of Sion.

"But for Hammer - it is much more than that." It shows in the old monks eyes and face.

Charlotte

[Charlotte]

Hi Don and All,

I was hoping you post a few important points from the book to shed more light on the subjects, but there you went off to geometrize again.

"Hammer does provide a new twist to the most proposed "solutions", of authors of "dozens of books written on the theft of the painting". He argues that the theft was a largely "prevenive theft", i.e., some people stole it so it wouldn't end up in the wrong hands. Ben Gates stole the Declaration of Indepence before Ian of the evil empire got his hands on it. I do like Mr. Hammer's notion "that the real thief might have been a women." Women are less suspected of such deeds, but it may belong in the category of "misinformation, disinformation, or reverse disinformation".

"Hammer underlines that the Allahists/Agla-ists/Ebonites hava a specific interpretation of Jesus that differs from the "corrupted" and accepted version of the Vatican.

One "private group" operated under different names, the Cathars are mentioned, but "Hammer laballed the veritable powerbrokers that held the Arma Christi the "Ebonites", one of the "ancient Christian sects..." the name "of Aramaic origin - "Ebioneans", which means "the Poor", as Origin preferred to call them, "to which we need to add that they were considered to be poor in a spiritual, not material sense". By Tertulian and Irenaeus who called them heretics? "Hammer argues" that they were poor in "the material sense", and so do I.

According to Mr. Hammer "Colette de Corbie - seems to have been somehow involved with bringing certain information from France to Ghent, from where the trail is supposed to lead to van Eyck." This may be the "secret" stealing as opposed the physical stealing of the panel. Corbie lived from 1381-1447, belonging to this important part of history mentioned. Interesting picture of St. Colette, standing beside a "quelle", and a chicken, having laid an Easter Egg, maybe.

"After the interview with Radio Rennessence, Hammer noted that out of 400 emails received since the publication of the book, only two had tackled the religious implications of his book and felt it interesting that the interview hadn't ventured into that domain either."

No surprise there, hunting panels is much easier, and finding them would bring great fame and fortune.

"Hammer doe point out the "reason" why these Arma Christi are so protected and their location is kept secret. He argues that the Antichrist would like to hold them and call for leadership of the world. But that, it seems, is a different song altogether."

No, it would be Satan's Song.

Many thanks to Mr. Hammer.

Ab/Ex uno disce omnes

Charlotte

[Don Barone]

Hi Charlotte

I am doomed to geometize until the light explodes.

But never forget that I contend the there is "music in the spheres" and geometry (hidden) in the paintings. It will all collide one day and we will be splattered with answers which we will then casually pick up and collect to our heart's content ... meanwhile however the drawing must go on

I have not read that book Satan's Song yet Charlotte as it has still not been released in English. I know about as much as you. Still answers seem to be trying to burst through the surface bubble and perhaps they may yet still explode before their time, the end times that is.

Please see my latest post under geometry for a possible developing tsunami ...

Best
Don Barone

[Charlotte]

Yes, I know you're hooked on geometry as I am on Bacon the Spear Shaker

I meant a few lines from "The Templar Revelation" book, but I think we'll come across some things in Riley's book anyway. With the National Treasure's the Templar are being brought to the attention of the "little people" of the world in a positive light, and that is the important thing. Never mind the interpretation of Churches and historians, except for names and dates etc.

I looked at your new findings in geometry and will be hanging on a tree branch for dear life when the zunami hits.

Time permitting, in honor of Mr. Hammer, Tom R., and Van Eyck the alchemist, maybe you can end this thread with my favorite painting: the "teenager" in a chariot holding the Caduseus of Hermes.

Love
Charlotte

[Aurora]

Charlotte wrote :
Hi Aurora,

Your paintings being colorful, I'm sorry you have problems with this board of black and white. It is actually my fault, having asked Don to keep our simple original design, and the logo Michelle brought here. Best wishes to you also and maybe we'll see ou again someday.

My comment :

On the contrary I would never have consoled myself of the Logo replacement.
I didn't know it was Michelle. I think this is the best and most beautiful logo I have ever come across for a board and for me it is the equivalent of a "Talisman"....

Did Michelle found it on the net or she created it herself ?

As for my eye I skip the big Forum next door so I can manage this intimate forum now :-)

[Charlotte]

Hi Aurora,

I agree it's the most beautiful logo. I think several were offered, among them a "Ship of Fools", Don thought we should vote and we all loved Michelle's. I don't remember where the lady got it.

Charlotte